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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Yeah f’n what? What do they want us to do with them give them habeas corpus rights try them as criminals in the US courts?

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So?

It is exactly this cavalier attitude that has put us in poor international standing. Nice response, cowboy.

You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

Bob Dylan

I still don’t care. SO fricken what.

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Davinski,

To which I reply Oderint dum metuant.

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Davinski - It is exactly this cavalier attitude that has put us in poor international standing.

What?

Have you seen the rest of the world lately? It’s not exactly a model of citizenship out there.

We are in “poor international standing” because the world, scratch that - people like you, demand different standards. America has one set of standards, and the rest of the world has a much lower different set. America is treated differently.

Summer 2002 a bunch (24?) of Taliban prisoners were held in a shipping container and died from the heat.  Congress was rightfully disgusted and decided the prisoners should not be left to the Afghanis.  We therefore shipped them off to Gitmo. 

This is quite possibly or likely illegal but I think it’s better than the alternative.  What are you (Davinski) suggesting is the appropriate action to take with Taliban and known terrorists?

It is exactly this idiotic self-righteous attitude that has put liberals in the position of being rightly accused of being self-delusional cowardly loons.

The Brits, God love ‘em, are too busy worrying about the death of Princess Diana ten years ago, to pay any serious attention to the Islamists in their midst who wish to blow up their buses, airports, and “tubes”.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

FlyOnTheWall--- I believe that they should not be sent to secret prisons on secret flights in the dead of the night to some country with a poor human rights record.
I believe like Senator McCain and retired General Colin Powell that all prisoners be treated humanly, which has been the long standing tradition of our nation.

Our war on terror will accomplish much more if we work with our allies instead of behind their backs. Britain takes this incident very seriously, as well they should.

You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

Bob Dylan

Davinski,

Since you find imprisonment, interrogation, and trial of these war criminals so abhorrent, what say we enforce the Customary Laws of Warfare as regards enemy combatants captured out of uniform instead?  Sure we lose the intelligence value, but a single round behind the ear costs a lot less and leaves you and yours a lot less to carp about.

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney,

Oh, come on, now!  Can’t we just waterboard them once before we shoot them?  Please!?

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One,

Wouldn’t want to stress the poor war criminal now would we?  Nor gather any intelligence which might prevent further military and/or civilian casualties.

Might offend Davinski’s sensibilities, and then where would we be?

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Davinski

secret prisons

This kind of extraordinary rendition is done even in this country with high value criminals who have information on their cohorts.  Beyond that, what does “secret prison” mean?  I can’t name where ANY criminal is held, they’re all secret to me. 

...secret flights in the dead of the night

I understand night flights are evil but again this is in countries that had a large Taliban population.  It needed secrecy. Specifically, how would you transport these people?

to some country with a poor human rights record.

All these countries have poor human rights records compared to us.  US gets harped on for holding prisoners at Gitmo and then sued for releasing people to their home country (poor human rights records.) There is a group of people that will complain regardless. 

Dealing with prisoners is increasingly a no win situation (your arguments are a good example) and the way the grunts in the field handle it is by shooting every enemy in the head twice.  (Thanks for going Scott, welcome home.) It works but I don’t think it’s the best method, too Spartanesque for my American sensibilities.