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The New York Times’ refusal to publish John McCain’s rebuttal to Barack Obama’s Iraq Op-Ed may be the most glaring example of liberal media bias this journalist has ever seen, but true proof of widespread media bias requires one to follow an old journalism maxim: Follow the money.

With even the Associated Press—no bastion of conservatism—considering, at least superficially, the media’s favoritism for Barack Obama, it’s time to re-visit media bias. Typically, journalists are defending their bias by saying that one candidate, Obama, is more “newsworthy” than the other. In other words, there is no media bias. It is we, the hoi polloi, who reveal our bias by questioning the neutrality of these learned professionals in their ivory-towered newsrooms.

Big Media applies this rationalization to every argument used to point out bias. ‘It’s not a result of bias’, they say. ‘It’s a matter of news judgment.’ And, like the man who knows his wallet was pick-pocketed but can’t prove it, the public is left to futilely rage against the injustice of it all.

The ‘newsworthy’ argument can be applied to every metric: one-sided imbalances in airtime, story placement, column inches, number of stories, etc. Every metric, save one.

An analysis of federal election records shows that the amount of money journalists contributed so far this election cycle favors Democrats by a 15:1 margin over Republicans, with $225,563 going to Democrats, only $16,298 to Republicans .

235 journalists donated to Democrats, just 20 gave to Republicans—a margin greater than 10:1. An even greater disparity, 20:1, exists between the number of journalists who donated to Barack Obama and John McCain.

Searches for other newsroom categories (reporters, correspondents, news editors, anchors, newspaper editors and publishers) produces 311 donors to Democrats to 30 donors to Republicans, a ratio of just over 10:1. In terms of money, $279,266 went to Dems, $20,709 to Republicans, a 14:1 ratio.

And while the money totals pale in comparison to the $9 million+ that just one union’s PACs have spent to get Barack Obama elected, they are more substantial than the amount that Obama has criticized John McCain for receiving from lobbyists: 96 lobbyists have contributed $95,850 to McCain, while Obama—who says he won’t take money from PACs or federal lobbyists—has received $16,223 from 29 lobbyists.

A few journalists list their employer as an organization like MSNBC MSNBC.com, or ABC News, or report that they’re a freelancer for the New York Times, or are journalists for Al Jazeera, CNN Turkey, Deutsche Welle Radio, or La Republica of Rome (all contributions to Obama). Most report no employer. They’re mainly free-lancers. That’s because most major news organization have policies that forbid newsroom employees from making political donations.

As if to warn their colleagues in the media, MSNBC last summer ran a story on journalists’ contributions to political candidates which drew a similar conclusion: “Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left”

[...]

One is the overwhelming nature of the above statistics. Given the pack mentality among journalists and, just like any pack, the tendency to follow the leader—in this case, Big Media—and since Big Media is centered in some of the bluest of blue parts of the country, it is highly likely that the media elite reflects the same, or an even greater, liberal bias.

A second is to analyze contributions from folks in the same corporate cultures.

That analysis provides some surprising results. Individuals who reported being employed by major media organizations made the following contributions:

NBC, NBC Universal: $104,184 to Democrats / $3,150 to Republicans

CBS: $45,508 to Dems / $966 to Republicans

ABC: $17,320 / $4,717

Turner Broadcasting, TBS: $30,161 / $3,950

Fox:  $40,573 / $0

Fox News/Fox News Channel: $1,280 / $0

MSNBC: $210 / $282

CNN: $2,286 / $1,250

Associated Press: $2,550 / $545

Reuters: $10,745 / $3,450

Washington Post, Newsweek:  $4,268 / $0

New York Times, NYT Co:  $8,143 / $0

Time, Inc: $40,988 / $4,850 ($2,300 to Republicans was from someone identified as a jeweler, so the total may actually be $2,550)

Time Magazine:  $1,250 / $0

USA Today: $6,067 / $0

Totals for the above:

$315,533 to Democrats ; $22,656 to Republicans—most of that to Ron Paul, who was supported by many liberals as a stalking horse to John McCain, a la Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos with Hillary and Obama.

What is truly remarkable about the above list is that, discounting contributions to Paul and Rudy Giuliani, who was a favorite son for many folks in the media, the totals look like this:

$315,533 to Democrats, $3,150 to Republicans (4 individuals who donated to McCain.)

Let me repeat that: $315,533 to Democrats, $3,150 to Republicans.

A ratio of 100 : 1.

No bias there.

William Tate is a former award-winning journalist and the author of the book, A Time Like This: 2001-2008.

Research for this article was conducted through online searches at the Federal Elections Commission, The Huffington Post’s FundRace2008, The Chicago Tribune’s Election 2008, and the Miami Herald’s Political Contributions Search.  For further details, contact the author through his website, http://www.atimelikethis.us/ or at wm_tate@yahoo.com.

We get plenty of that “Obama is more newsworthy” crap from the lefties on this blog; when you want to know the truth, follow the money.

When you look at the numbers, the leftie bias in the MSM is glaringly obvious.

Comments

Good post and great data, 108.  But as you know, none of us are really surprised at this. Never, since I cast my first vote for JFK, have I seen a media bias as blatant as we are seeing this year.
The media isn’t even trying to hide it!

I spoke last week about this with a long-term professional journalist friend who replied, “Who cares. You guys don’t even support McCain. No one does.”


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pparets on July 22, 2008 at 12:54 pm

McCain could fix that pretty quickly, if he wanted to…


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 02:29 pm

Does anyone watch anyway? Funny how even though the “MSM” is losing market share and influence daily, they are still blamed for all the republicans problems..hmmm still not ready to accept the fact that the republicans put themselves in this situation uh?, Grow up, practice what you preach for once and accept your own responsibility.

dragon poker on July 22, 2008 at 03:18 pm

There is a lot of truth in what you say, dragon-poker.

In many ways, we [conservatives & republicans] have not been good stewards of the public trust over the last 12 years.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 22, 2008 at 04:05 pm

pparets,
I of course think the same way of the dems. They also have let the country down on many levels.
I think that the only way to fix a problem is to first identify the problem and accept it, even if its not what we want to hear. When we all blame everyone else but pretend we are faultless, we are doomed to more of the same. Nothing get solved.
I hope more people realize this, right and left.

dragon poker on July 22, 2008 at 04:14 pm

dragon poker:

When we all blame everyone else but pretend we are faultless…

Well, you’re around often enough to know much of that goes on here....  smile


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 22, 2008 at 05:10 pm

Here we have direct proof of leftie media bias, by following the money, and no one is commenting on that.  Instead, we have a McCain apologist blaming republicans.  Not surprising.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 05:55 pm

Good journalism, robert108.  This is what good journalists should be doing.  It is now up to bloggers to uncover The Truth.


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Chief RZ on July 22, 2008 at 06:13 pm
And while the money totals pale in comparison to the $9 million+ that just one union’s PACs have spent to get Barack Obama elected,

Yep, my whole local, every man, gives ten cents per hour worked to our PAC. Thats about 300,000 bucks a year just from my local. God bless the Unions.


Buy American, Buy Union Made… the job you save might be your own.

Buzz on July 22, 2008 at 06:39 pm

Yep, my whole local, every man, gives ten cents per hour worked to our PAC.

“Gives”?  You are trying to sell the lie that you have a choice?


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 06:45 pm

Yea, we have a choice. We all have a choice to sign a PAC agreement when we go out on a job. Our choice is to support elected officials who support the working people in the United States.


Buy American, Buy Union Made… the job you save might be your own.

Buzz on July 22, 2008 at 06:55 pm

r108: 

Instead we have a McCain apologist blaming republicans.

Hahaha!

In spite of the sheer absurdity of that comment, you are at your funniest when you try to be pompously dramatic and attribute motives to other people.  I love it!

BTW:  I was the first respondent to comment very favorably on your post.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 22, 2008 at 07:03 pm

Yea, we have a choice. We all have a choice to sign a PAC agreement when we go out on a job. Our choice is to support elected officials who support the
working people in the United States.

What do you think will happen to your jobs after Lord Obama declares amnesty for invaders?  Do you think your union rulers will be content with your ten cents an hour when they can extract several times that from ignorant, grateful invaders who are willing to live twenty to a room?  You guys are morons.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 07:10 pm

In many ways, we [conservatives & republicans] have not been good stewards of the public trust over the last 12 years.

pparets on July 22, 2008 at 05:05 pm

I rest my case.  With McCain/Feingold, McCain/Kennedy and McCain/Lieberman, plus the Gang of 14, I agree that John McCain has not been a good steward of the public trust.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 07:13 pm

We all have a choice to sign a PAC agreement when we go out on a job.

What happens to those who don’t want to sign?


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 07:14 pm

BTW: I was the first respondent to comment very favorably on your post.

True; then you inserted your McCain commercial, which has no relevance to the topic of this thread.
What’s your point?


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 07:18 pm

What happens to those who don’t want to sign?

They eat lunch alone.


Buy American, Buy Union Made… the job you save might be your own.

Buzz on July 22, 2008 at 07:28 pm

r108:  You, yourself, have commented any number of times on the failure of the GOP to keep government smaller and/or reduce expenses.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
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pparets on July 22, 2008 at 07:31 pm
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Our choice is to support elected officials who support the working people in the United States.

Funny! His avatar once showed him brandishing guns, one of which he fears may be illegal in his state. His signature used to babble about selling rope for the Chinese to hang us, yet he contributes regularly, through his union dues, to the party that wants to take his guns away! Can you say, ”Cognitive dissonance”?


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Proof on July 22, 2008 at 07:32 pm

They eat lunch alone.

That’s intimidation, not choice.  It’s a typical union tactic.  You guys are collectivists, just like the commies.

pp: Not on this thread. I criticize anyone in govt who doesn’t follow the Constitution and the Founding Principles.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 07:34 pm

Not on this thread

So your numerous criticisms of the GOP on other threads doesn’t count??  Hahaha!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 22, 2008 at 07:37 pm

So your numerous criticisms of the GOP on other threads doesn’t count?? Hahaha!

They count on threads in which they are relevant, but would be inappropriate on this thread, which is about financial proof of leftie media bias.
Why are you trying so hard to distract from that?  Will it bother your comrades on the other side of the aisle?
Is the subject of this thread an inconvenient truth for you?  Just wondering.
I’m asking because you claimed to support this thread, but have yet to do so.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 07:47 pm

Funny! His avatar once showed him brandishing guns, one of which he fears may be illegal in his state. His signature used to babble about selling rope for the Chinese to hang us, yet he contributes regularly, through his union dues, to the party that wants to take his guns away! Can you say, ”Cognitive dissonance”?

What’s funny is your inability to post anything but nitpicking comments to other peoples posts instead of actually addressing the subject.

You not only have a strange fetish/superiority complex and feel the need to correct other’s grammar.  You also are a typical Republican and will support any Republican ideal regardless of how you truly feel.  Are people not allowed to agree with the majority of ideals of their party and disagree with others?  Or are you simply blinded by the awesomeness of George W. Bush that you’ll support the Republican cause no matter what.

CatMow on July 22, 2008 at 07:47 pm

$315,533 to Democrats ; $22,656 to Republicans—most of that to Ron Paul, who was supported by many liberals as a stalking horse to John McCain, a la Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos with Hillary and Obama.

What is truly remarkable about the above list is that, discounting contributions to Paul and Rudy Giuliani, who was a favorite son for many folks in the media, the totals look like this:

$315,533 to Democrats, $3,150 to Republicans (4 individuals who donated to McCain.)

Let me repeat that: $315,533 to Democrats, $3,150 to Republicans.

A ratio of 100 : 1.

No bias there.

Wow.  Great journalism.  You “discount” the contributions to Paul and Guliani to make your point look more valid.

CatMow on July 22, 2008 at 07:50 pm
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What’s funny is your inability to post anything but nitpicking comments to other peoples posts instead of actually addressing the subject.

Maybe when your dad stops his fecal flapping lips and stops his insults for the sake of insults (which he has bragged about) maybe we wouldn’t have the banal sewage he deposits here to nit pick.

I see you don’t want to disagree with MY point, that it shows cognitive dissonance for someone to fear a future potential oppressor (the Chinese) when a real and present oppressor (the anti-gun Democrats) is already causing him to fear that his guns might be taken away if it were known what state is lives in, thanks to the laws that his so-called “elected officials who support the working people” that HE supports, helped to pass.

Pick that nit, sonny boy!



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Proof on July 22, 2008 at 08:05 pm

r108:  Nice try at dodging the bullet.  You said

Instead we have a McCain apologist trying to blame the republicans.

And when I pointed out that you have frequently done the same thing, you first tried to wriggle out by saying

not on this thread

.

Then, when I called you on that, you shift gears again, with silly stuff like

is the subject of this thread an inconvenient truth for you

and this gem:

will it bother your comrades on the other side of the aisle

.

On more than one occasion, we have both commented on the failure of the GOP to live up to it’s ideals and responsibilities.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
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pparets on July 22, 2008 at 08:05 pm

It’s still valid, moron!

On more than one occasion, we have both commented on the failure of the GOP to live up to it’s ideals and responsibilities.

What part of “off-topic” don’t you understand?  If you want to submit an entry of your own about Republican fault-finding, please do so.  Meanwhile, why not exhibit some of your claimed “support” for the topic of this thread?


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 08:42 pm

Oh!  Now you want control of what is said on SAY ANYTHING???  On any number of occasions, you have insetred non-related views onto my posts, robert.

All the support you need is all the way back at the beginning of this thread.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 22, 2008 at 08:49 pm

Or are you simply blinded by the awesomeness of George W. Bush that you’ll support the Republican cause no matter what.

The Republicans will still eat lunch with me.  Try having a diversity of opinion with your fellow union thugs.

pp: Don’t be an idiot; why do you resist staying on topic?


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 09:10 pm

On any number of occasions, you have insetred non-related views onto my posts, robert.

Bullshit; I just resist your relentless sales pitch on McCain.  Even if that were so, how can you criticize me for doing exactly what you are doing on this thread, especially when you claimed to support the actual topic?


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 22, 2008 at 09:12 pm

I’m not criticizing you, 108. Just pointing out that sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.  You insert in other people’s posts and we insert in yours.

First of all, let’s get serious.  Other than providing actual dollar amounts, your post was nothing new and not terribly original.

But, I liked it and said so.

Other than that, this is SAY ANYTHING.  What part of that title do you not comprehend?

You need to get over yourself. You are not the end-all, be-all of conservative thinking.  You are frequently on target, and frequently in error.  Join the club.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 07:31 am

You need to get over yourself. You are not the end-all, be-all of conservative thinking.

Please take your own advice, and stop spinning and twisting to try to justify what you know is wrong and self-centered here.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 07:37 am

Interesting, but pointless, 108, as you sometimes are. 

I stated - as you have on any number of occasions - that the GOP have not been good stewards in many instances. Simple as that.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 07:47 am

pp: I guess you’re determined to make this thread about you and your feelings.  Sigh.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 08:05 am

108, Like you, I don’t operate on “feelings”. I try to operate on fact.

The GOP have not been good stewards in many instances.

That’s a fact, not a feeling , and one which both of us have articlulated on SAB.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 08:11 am

108, Like you, I don’t operate on “feelings”. I try to operate on fact.

Bwahahaha! I little mutual masturbation going on in here!


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on July 23, 2008 at 08:15 am

arbuckle:  I little mutual masturbation...”

Freudian slip?


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 08:19 am

A


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on July 23, 2008 at 08:22 am

A

Freudian slip recovered.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 08:25 am

108, Like you, I don’t operate on “feelings”. I try to operate on fact.

Almost every comment you have made on this thread has been about your feelings, since I disagree with your relentless sales pitches for McCain.  I say again: Your obnoxious pushing of McCain resulting in my investigating his positions, and I have gone from a reluctant supporter of his to complete rejection of his socialist agenda.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 08:32 am

108:  Your “Now-that-I-have-studied-McCain-because-of-your-obnoxious-pushing” mantra is getting a little old, don’t you think?

It’s a childish effort to attack the messenger.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 08:41 am

It’s a childish effort to attack the messenger.

It’s neither a “mantra” nor an “attack”.  It is the truth about the failure of your sales pitch.  The facts got in the way.  You’re trying to sell an inferior product.  Getting mad at the customer who rejects your sales pitch is the childish part.  You failed to make the sale.  Get over it.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 08:56 am

108:  Hahahaha!

By “facts” I assume you mean your bias?


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 09:02 am

PP: you say

108, Like you, I don’t operate on “feelings”. I try to operate on fact.

and you say

By “facts” I assume you mean your bias?

Aha! The truth comes out in two separate posts. If we combine them we get:

108, Like you, I don’t operate on “feelings”. I try to operate on [bias].

Thanks for fessing up PP!


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on July 23, 2008 at 09:06 am

By “facts” I assume you mean your bias?

Nice projection, but no; it’s the facts about McCain’s positions and how they would harm America.  McCain/Feingold, McCain/Kennedy, McCain/Lieberman.  Facts.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 09:12 am

arbuckle:  well, by editing, combining and insterting into any number of comments, you can create whatever drivel you want.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 09:16 am

That’s a fact, not a feeling , and one which both of us have articlulated on SAB.

It’s one fact in a sea of feelings from you on this thread.  That doesn’t get you a sale.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 09:17 am

hahahaha!  A SEA OF FEELINGS!  You are at your funniest when you are dramatic.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 09:25 am

Poor sparkie.  There is no wisdom nor nothing to be uncovered by ignoring the context of separate quotes and combining them to make up a point.  I thought you loved logic?


“Like a lot of my Democratic colleagues I was too slow to appreciate the recklessness of Fannie and Freddie. I defended their efforts to encourage affordable homeownership when in retrospect I should have heeded the concerns raised by their regulator in 2004. Frankly, I wish my Democratic colleagues would admit when it comes to Fannie and Freddie, we were wrong. By the way, I wish my Republican colleagues would admit that they missed the early warning signs, that Wall Street deregulation was overheating the securities market and promoting dangerously lax lending practices. When it comes to the debacle in our capital markets, there is much blame to go around for both sides.”
-Congressman Artur Davis

HG on July 23, 2008 at 09:25 am

arbuckle:  well, by editing, combining and insterting into any number of comments, you can create whatever drivel you want.

I was just picking on your because your attempt at kissing your own and r108’s ass both at once… quickly broke down.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on July 23, 2008 at 09:25 am

hahahaha!  A SEA OF FEELINGS!  You are at your funniest when you are dramatic.

You’re the drama queen on this thread.  I’m simply calling attention to your drama, which you use to justify your off-topic distraction from an important issue.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 09:30 am

...off-topic discussion of an important issue..

By which you mean, of course, YOUR issue.

Like I said, it was informative, but not ground-breaking. There have been many, many posts on leftie journalist bias, and yours was not the best.

None-the-less, I liked it, and said so. 

And I exercised my right - as you frequently do - to SAY ANYTHING else I wanted.  You don’t own the thread, robert.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 10:05 am

Leftie media bias is not “my” issue; it is an important issue, not only to all Americans, but especially to conservatives.  Sorry that doesn’t include you, apparently.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 10:08 am

Oh, but it does!  And I praised your post right at outset. What you object to is the posting of anything not in lockstep with, or seeming to detract from, your views.

Nice spin, though.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 10:17 am

What you object to is the posting of anything not in lockstep with, or seeming to detract from, your views.

Wrong again; the subject of this thread is an important part of defeating the leftie MSM, but you chose to use it to draw attention to yourself.  Shame on you.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 10:28 am

The only person here drawing attention to me… is you!  Thanks a bunch!


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 10:33 am

pp: Like your buddy McCain, you have poked your finger in my eye on this thread.  I hope you are proud of your efforts in that regard.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 10:39 am

If stating my view is poking you in the eye, then you have a serious problem, robert.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 10:47 am

pp: You’ve won me over with your justifications and rationalizations for going off-topic; from now on, I will insert negative facts about McCain’s positions in every comment I make, regardless of the subject of the thread.  You have opened my eyes!  It really is “say anything”, isn’t it.  Hope you like the results you have achieved.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 11:53 am

Your new style will be a difference without a distinction.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 12:00 pm

McCain’s anti-First Amendment bill, McCain/Feingold, increased the power of the leftie media immensely, by silencing voter-financed political groups sixty days before elections.  Bad for America.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on July 23, 2008 at 12:41 pm
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r108 & pparets,

Here’s a ruler:

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Ken on July 23, 2008 at 01:10 pm

Not long enough!


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on July 23, 2008 at 01:15 pm
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Not long enough!

Don’t you mean too long?

Ken on July 23, 2008 at 01:18 pm

Ken, Whistler & BatOne:  Hahahaha!  Ok, ok, I get it.
smile


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
Bob Dylan

pparets on July 23, 2008 at 07:56 pm
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