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Seems to me, Sparkie, that sending helicopter gunships to deal with insurgents isn’t exactly ignoring the problem.  I sure wouldn’t like to be “ignored” in that manner.

And yes, we’re still fighting there.  As a result, we’re not fighting them HERE.  Sounds like a pretty good investment to me.

Military invasion, Marines killing the Islamic scum, boots on the ground = “ignoring it”?

Huh?

what I mean is that the worst two years have been the last two and we have heard next to nihilo about it
we are going to have to continue spending tax money on this for how long?
and bikebubba… fighting them here? que? where do you live?

Looks like you’ve been having a little bit of trouble reading the papers, Sparkie.  I’ve been seeing lots of articles about this area.

Maybe Hooked on Phonics would be helpful for you?

The Daily Show had a great interview with Lara Logan, the Chief Foreign correspondent for CBS news.  She has spent much of the last 5 years attempting to report from Iraq and has total disdain for American media treatment of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Plus she is hot.

Here you go spark! Oh, and since you have such a hard time figuring out that reality exists, I’ll help you out.

“ Taleban ‘cleared from Kandahar’”

A nice slice,"The Nato-led peacekeeping force says there has been little fighting.

“So far our assessment is that if the insurgents are there they have not the numbers and the foothold that they previously claimed,” spokesman General Carlos Branco told the AFP news agency.

“Obviously, they did choose not to fight,” he said.”

Oops, your heroes not only getting the shit kicked out of them but lying into the deal. My, my. Really sucks to be a terrorist apologist today, eh spark?

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And spark? Before this day is over you terrorist apologists will be screeching that women and children are being killed in Kandahar and Arghandab. And that is correct. Your heroes, the Taleban, are killing children and women in retaliation for their men not joining. ANd they are using them as shields. You must be so proud!

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kitty
nice strawman. where have I ever advocated for any islamists, let alone the Taliban? i want to know why we aren’t seeing more coverage of the spat between afghanistan and pakistan. how come we aren’t seeing more on the al Qadea people in Baluchistan that we are funding to do attacks inside Iran?
Instead we hear about Hulk Hogan’s son and some socialist bullshit from Proof about how sad it is the poor in France can’t afford to prune their own effing trees.

Your heroes, terrorists, are getting the shit kicked out of them. And you are crying that your leftarded media is not covering it? Really? And Iran’s puppet, Al Queda is funded by America? Really?

spark, several months ago I gave you a list of Mid-Eastern news sources, who routinely cover the Mid-East and its goings on. Since you have this major problem with reality and its existence you obviously are incapable of going to Al Jazeera or AsiaTimes or GreaterKashmir so I won’t bother giving you the links yet again.

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Here you go, for the reality challenged.

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And some more inconvenient reality for you.

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kitty
if we are doing so weell, we’ll be out soon? will we win soon? we can stop dumping money into the desert soon?

yay!

You are the one crying that your media is not covering the shit kicking your heroes are getting. I have clearly illustrated that you are full of crap.

Heres your head, please try to keep better track of it.

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Sparkie, maybe with 1/10 the troops we left in Germany for fifty years.  So far.

Communism is evil

chief

Its my understanding that we made Germany pay for some of that.

Did we not?

Some?  Maybe and maybe more or less than other countries.  I do know that the SOFA agreement is rather hard on our troops there.  If you like, and agree that the percentage of repair that a country contributes is on topic, we can research the facts.

Communism is evil

Actually, no, we have never made Germany pay reparations for defending it.  We have asked that they step up to the plate and defend themselves, but as for ourselves, we remember the German response to impoverishment by reparations, and would prefer not to repeat the experience.  Instead we provided billions of dollars of food and tools to rebuild them.

And Sparkie, the job is done when the job is done.  Unfortunately, 8 years of neglect by the former President allowed a lot of scumbags into the region, and it’s somewhat difficult to ensure that more don’t come in from Pakistan and elsewhere.  It’s not something that can be done overnight.

If you read the papers, you might become aware of this.

Unfortunately, 8 years of neglect by the former President allowed a lot of scumbags into the region

That is just ridiculous.  Was it Clinton who allowed Saddam into the region by funding him in the mid 80s?  Was it Clinton who allowed Osama in the region by funding him in the mid 80s? 

Blaming this all on Clinton is asinine.

Hawk, you might do well to learn the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan.  Osama Bin Laden took up residence there after William Jefferson Clinton refused Sudan’s offer of his head on a platter a time or two, and certain infamous events of 2001 are the direct result.

If you don’t like the facts, tough.  And you’re welcome for the geography lesson.

Osama Bin Laden took up residence there after William Jefferson Clinton refused Sudan’s offer of his head on a platter a time or two, and certain infamous events of 2001 are the direct result.

Osama Bin Laden was part of the Mujahedin in Afghanistan in the 1980s.  Maybe you should bone up on your history.

BTW, the Sudan never offered Bin Laden to the US.  They offered him to Saudi Arabia and they refused to take him.

Hawk,

The fact that UBL was a middle level Mujahedeen functionary in the 1980s certainly doesn’t contradict what Bike Bubba said about him during the 1990s.

Incidentally, Mansoor Ijaz contradicts your Saudi story… as has Bill Clinton, who has acknowledged rejecting the offer on the grounds that he wasn’t sure there was sufficient evidence to get a conviction.  Clearly, the idea that his was war, and not Law and Order never occurred to Clinton.  Must have been busy elsewhere.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

He spent the 1990s in Sudan, Hawk.  Try reading the papers, OK?  And yes, our State Department was in fact involved in the possibility of Osama’s head on a platter, according to none less then the master of the oval orifice himself.

Again, when the big threat against our country was clearly Islamic terrorism, the man from Hope was AWOL.  Deal with it.  The war we’re fighting there is greatly due to that.

Bin Laden was considered a moneyed playboy and dilettante by the leaders of the Muhajadeen. Bin Laden financed an assassination campaign, through his connections to the opium/heroin producing tribes, and killed off the leadership of Afghanistan in the months after the Russian pullout. And thus rose to power the Taliban. And the foundations of Al Queda were laid at the same time. Bin Laden used Afghanistan as his jumpoff point. He had prior connections in the States and throughout the Mid and Near East from family and his years in college.

America never financed Bin Laden, we used him and he used us.

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