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Thursday, December 27, 2007

A Republican to the Rescue

Could it be true? Is their a Republican that actually cares about the health and welfare of people? It looks that way. I am happy to read that California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is having some success in fixing the broken down miserable mess we call health care in this country. He has been able to get a bill passed through one house of the state legislature that would insure all 36 million residents of California

Perhaps he tired of the horror stories he heard in his state. For example, the one about the woman who was denied a brain scan by her insurance company despite repeated requests from her doctor, only to be diagnosed with a tumor during a family visit to Japan.

“I thought that when you had insurance you had access to any treatment that you needed,” she said, tears welling in her eyes.

“If I hadn’t gone to Japan maybe I wouldn’t be here now. I would never have had the chance to know what was causing me so much pain.”

Or the story told by by the Reverend Andy Bates, who runs a mission which offers food, housing and medical care to some of the area’s regulars.

In the course of a year and a half he documented more than a hundred examples of “patient dumping” on Skid Row.

Said Bates- “I’ve seen a lot on these streets, but nothing compares to the woman who was dropped off in a hospital gown, an [intravenous drip] still in her arm, who died 10 minutes later in our reception area of pneumonia - discharged simply because she couldn’t afford to pay her hospital bill.”

Under Governor Schwarzenegger’s plan, employers, hospitals and cigarette smokers would share the cost of funding California’s healthcare reforms.

The bill still must go through the state Senate where ironically his biggest opponent will be guess who, you got it-- his fellow Republicans.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7157980.stm
BBC NEWS | Americas | Healthcare for all in California?

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In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,

By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;

But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,

And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”


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Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on December 27, 2007 at 11:46 pm

RG: When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can be assured of Paul’s vote.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on December 28, 2007 at 12:40 am

Conservatives are the only ones who care about people; we want them to be happy, successful and prosperous, and we don’t want to enslave them with govt handouts so that they will become dependent on us and will vote for us out of their need for those continued handouts.  It’s the lefties who treat those who they consider “the proletariat” like dirt.

Nobody wants to be a communist to be part of the proletariat; they all think they will be one of the ruling elite.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on December 28, 2007 at 12:43 am

"A Republican that actually cares” = one who wants big government.

You might as well be honest about it Davinski.

Government: good.
Freedom: bad.
Deadly coercion: good.
Free choice: bad.

Drop the act and be honest for a change. Can you manage that?

likwidshoe on December 28, 2007 at 12:50 am

Drop the act and be honest for a change. Can you manage that?

Likwidshoes-- It’s a big world out there, and not everyone agrees with you on the issues. There is no need to question my integrity. If you think it is an act that I am concerned about sick people who die because insurance companies want to save money then you are way off base.


You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

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Davinski on December 28, 2007 at 08:44 am

If you think it is an act that I am concerned about sick people who die because insurance
companies want to save money then you are way off base.

No. People suffer because they make poor choices.  The more you substitute govt mandates for individual power of choice, the more you enslave the people.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on December 28, 2007 at 09:14 am
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Likwidshoes-- It’s a big world out there, and not everyone agrees with you on the issues. There is no need to question my integrity.

But it’s ok for Davinski to accuse most Republicans of not caring about the people.

By the way, what factual basis are you using to suggest that so-called “universal health care” is an improvement over what California already has?  There isn’t one.  Every example we have of such a thing, from Canada to Great Britain to “Romneycare” in Mass. has shown it to only make matters worse.

Einstein defined insanity as someone doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.  Liberals, by that definition, are nuts.


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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Rob on December 28, 2007 at 10:33 am

But it’s ok for Davinski to accuse most Republicans of not caring about the people.

That’s a good point, Rob. We all need to knock off the cheap shots. If I had a nickel for every shot I took over here, I would be a wealthy man. I have been a traitor, homo,
commie, liar, jerk, Hater, totalitarian, and fascist to name a few.  Happy New Year. Peace.


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Davinski on December 28, 2007 at 02:47 pm

Davinski - Likwidshoes-- It’s a big world out there, and not everyone agrees with you on the issues.

You’ve got a lot of nerve saying this right after you tell us that we don’t care if we don’t agree with your position. Davinski - It’s a big world out there, and not everyone agrees with you on the issues. Take your own words and apply them to yourself there, chief.

There is no need to question my integrity.

When you continually misstate the nature of our positions, there is every need to question your integrity. You don’t argue honestly.

If you think it is an act that I am concerned about sick people who die because insurance companies want to save money then you are way off base.

That wasn’t said nor implied. This criticism of yours is off base.

As said above, just be honest. Can you manage? You’re showing us that you can’t. You’re also showing us that you’re not above rank hypocrisy.

Now here’s where you dress me down for asking for the same considerations that you ask for yourself.

likwidshoe on December 28, 2007 at 06:57 pm

First of all, I don’t understand any of your rant; it is unimportant. I am not going to waste my time getting in a piss-fight with you. Let’s have a gentlemans agreement: no more cheap shots, and stick to the issues.  Peace.


You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

Bob Dylan


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Davinski on December 28, 2007 at 08:46 pm

And second?


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on December 28, 2007 at 09:00 pm

That’s okay Davinski. If you don’t agree, feign ignorance.

For the record, I wasn’t looking for a “piss-fight”. Rather, it seems that is what you were looking for when you said, “Is their a Republican that actually cares about the health and welfare of people?”

The implication is plain: If we don’t agree with your socialist opinion, then we must not care. We here at this website have been through that mindless mantra too many times to count. It’s a transparent tactic and one that won’t get you any respect.

“It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”

If you wish to have “a gentlemans agreement” (or disagreement), then I’m sure that many here would welcome the change.

likwidshoe on December 28, 2007 at 09:18 pm

I am a democrat not a socialist. I believe it was you who used the word commie once when describing democrats. Change is a two way street. Until then, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Suck it up. Read some of your posts. Mine are mild compared to yours. BTW, What is this we at this website stuff? This was between me and you. And that is my last word on this, Likwidshoe. Have a happy New Year.


You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

Bob Dylan


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Davinski on December 28, 2007 at 09:39 pm

I am a democrat not a socialist.

Democrats endorse socialist policies. It is the bedrock of the party these days. Just look at what you’re advocating here with this post: socialist health care. So who are you trying to kid?

I believe it was you who used the word commie once when describing democrats.

Doubt it.

Change is a two way street. Until then, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Suck it up.

So your behavior is dependent upon mine? Sounds...like a little kid’s answer. “But mommy, Johnny did it too!”

Read some of your posts. Mine are mild compared to yours.

I don’t really post. I can’t find most of what I have posted here as it is buried in the numbers of the front page.

BTW, What is this we at this website stuff?

I simply said that we here at this website have seen your tactic of argument before. Does that need explained further? It’s pretty simple.

This was between me and you.

I’m not the only Republican.

Why did you think this was about me and you? I didn’t know that it was that personal. Geeze.

likwidshoe on December 28, 2007 at 10:08 pm

I am a democrat not a socialist.

When the leader of your Party says things like: “I want to take those profits and use them for the common good.”, and when most of your funding comes from well-known socialist George Soros, if you’re not a socialist, you’re not in tune with your Party. When candidate Edwards advocates mandating his social programs, that’s pure socialism.  Wake up!


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on December 28, 2007 at 10:11 pm
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