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These include, but are not limited to:

Personal attack of the opponent, on various levels;

Unsupported claims of intellectual superiority, thus entitling them to a “win” with no facts or logic;

Changing the subject;

Blaming others;

Justifying their own bad behavior with the claim of bad behavior on the part of others;

Appeal to authority, usually with misquotes, mischaracterizations or cherry-picked, out of context snippets.

etc, etc....

Very self descripive piece bobbie blue

Unfortunately, r108, you are frequently guilty of a number of these.

you call people liars.

When in a tight spot, you shift the subject.

You claim others ‘attacked’ you first to justify your language and behavior.

You parse and cherry-pick with the best of them.

[also a University Debate Team member]

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

If you don’t like the blog and think that those of us who participate are below you, quit.

Watashiwa: To whom was your comment directed?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

This post has a stench of projection bias.

“He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.”
~Friedrich Nietzsche

Nunez:  I’m not sure what you mean by ‘projection bias’, but it certainly has the stench of self-righteous posturing.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

pparets,

Wikipedia:

In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others.

What’s your logical and factual argument for “projection”?  You have yet to prove that you are not projecting, here.  In fact, you have yet to present any logical or factual arguments at all.  All you seem to have is ad hominem.  As I have already pointed out multiple times, that is usually a sign of a lack of anything more.  I know you would give a logical or factual argument, if you had one.

Media uncovers more Palin stories in one weekend than Obama stories in two years. Still no bias detected

Obama: more experienced than Bristol Palin

This post has a stench of projection bias.

Starting with pp’s projection of what “moderate” means, like referring to govt-imposed rationing of energy as a “moderate policy”.  Of course, he never proved that case, either.  It was an unsupported statement.

Media uncovers more Palin stories in one weekend than Obama stories in two years. Still no bias detected

Obama: more experienced than Bristol Palin

When in a tight spot, you shift the subject.

Your lack of valid argument on everything is incapable of putting me in a “tight spot”.  Projecting again?  I have yet to see you admit any mistakes, even when you are thoroughly disproved.

Media uncovers more Palin stories in one weekend than Obama stories in two years. Still no bias detected

Obama: more experienced than Bristol Palin

you call people liars.

Only when they tell multiple lies.  I support my evaluations, as well, unlike you and your unsupported opinions and personal attacks.
I’m sure you would make a valid argument, if you had one.

w: If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Media uncovers more Palin stories in one weekend than Obama stories in two years. Still no bias detected

Obama: more experienced than Bristol Palin

robert108.  I agree with your post.  There are some here who merely make outrageous statements with no basis.  Some attempt to bait people with virtual slaps at their integrity.  Yes, you can Say Anything, but should label statements as opinion.  The old newspapers began putting opinion on their front/news pages several decades ago.  There are some who debate with facts.  Most honest people here will admit when they are wrong.  The dishonest ones refuse to.

Communism is evil

As a member of a debating team in college

[also a University Debate Team member]

you two are out to indict your alma matters? Care to out the institutions in question? r108… i take it you never lost a debate?

r108… i take it you never lost a debate?
Sparkie Arbuckle on July 2, 2008 at 06:56 am

No. He never lost a debate because he is the judge and allways declares himself the winner.

Only when they tell multiple lies.  I support my evaluations, as well, unlike you and your unsupported opinions and personal attacks.
I’m sure you would make a valid argument, if you had one.
w: If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Oh please. 

When the law was quoted to you about the justification for Gore challenging the election you screamed “Liar”.  According to you it is impossible to have a disagreement with you, because everybody is a liar if they don’t agree.

You state your opinion and call it fact all the time.

robert108,

Starting with pp’s projection of what “moderate” means, like referring to govt-imposed rationing of energy as a “moderate policy”.  Of course, he never proved that case, either.  It was an unsupported statement.

‘Projection’ doesn’t work in this context. The rest of your rant is simply ‘Changing the Subject,’ for example, when you stated that Iraq is the only democratic country in the Middle East.

robert108: Iraq is now the first democracy in the history of the ME

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/report_cooked_up_by_senate_democrats_accuses_the_bush_adminstration_of_lyin/#c298563

What’s your logical and factual argument for “projection”?  You have yet to prove that you are not projecting, here. 

You have yet to prove that you are not projecting. In fact, you have not presented any logical or factual argument that this is not a projection. If you had a factual or logical argument then you would of said it.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”.

SayAnything like almost all blogs are places where people can leave their OPINIONS.  That those opinions are based on anything factual is purely coincidental.

You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

That those opinions are based on anything factual is purely coincidental.

Sadly, dd, the responses from the attackers here shows you are exactly right.  My expectations were way out of line.

Media uncovers more Palin stories in one weekend than Obama stories in two years. Still no bias detected

Obama: more experienced than Bristol Palin

robert108: Iraq is now the first democracy in the history of the ME

True. I forgot to say “the first democracy in an Islamic country...”
What does that have to do with this thread?  Again, you have only personal attack and non sequitur.

Media uncovers more Palin stories in one weekend than Obama stories in two years. Still no bias detected

Obama: more experienced than Bristol Palin

robert108,

What does that have to do with this thread?  Again, you have only personal attack and non sequitur.

You consistently rant about other people’s comprehension, but your inability to notice that saying that you don’t know Israel is a democracy in the Middle East was an example of how you continually change the subject.

robert108.  I agree with your post.  There are some here who merely make outrageous statements with no basis.  Some attempt to bait people with virtual slaps at their integrity.  Yes, you can Say Anything, but should label statements as opinion.  The old newspapers began putting opinion on their front/news pages several decades ago.  There are some who debate with facts.  Most honest people here will admit when they are wrong.  The dishonest ones refuse to.

I think we all agree with bobbie blue and his post here. The point is that he is a hypocrite who doesnt practice what preaches in any way shape or form. For little bobbie blue to rail about how others debate is like Sadaam complaining that he didnt get a fair trial.
My continuing problem with little bobbie blue is that he doesnt know his shit stinks just like evryone elses. He is the biggest hypocrite here, as he posts more bullshit than anyone else(going on 20,000), and thinks falsly that he knows everything. He doesnt. The things that he does know are tainted by his lack of self awareness and his total hypocracy. Thanks again bobbie blue for showing your true self. You make it easy to disregard you.

“He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.”
~Friedrich Nietzsche

Way above little bobbie blue, he will never get this quotes meaning.

In fact, you have yet to present any logical or factual arguments at all.

When have YOU, bob?

Here is my challenge to you:

I will send you $200 via PayPal if you can link to just ONE of your 19,550 comments that contains a logical and factual argument backed up with reliable evidence.

But if you can’t---and we all know you can’t---you send me $20 via PayPal.

That’s 10 to 1 odds, kid, and since you’re sooooooo factual and logical it should be no problem.

What do you say bob? Can you put your money where your mouth is? Or are you chicken?

dragon poker.
this crowd don’t like Nietzsche.

The things that he does know are tainted by his lack of self awareness and his total hypocrisy.

I’m a hypocrite. Not r108 though!

You consistently rant about other people’s comprehension, but your inability to notice that saying that you don’t know Israel is a democracy in the Middle East was an example of how you continually change the
subject.

So, you’re trying to generalize everything I write from a tiny misstatement?  In fact, it was part of a larger discussion about the benefits of our going to Iraq, so while it was technically(there’s that nitpicking out of context) incorrect, my point about the beneficial effect of freeing the Iraqi people to have self-determination is a good thing.
You’ll have to do better than that bit of dishonesty.

Or are you chicken?

How very Junior High School of you!

Media uncovers more Palin stories in one weekend than Obama stories in two years. Still no bias detected

Obama: more experienced than Bristol Palin

How very Junior High School of you!

If you think that’s true then accept my challenge.

Or are you too big of a coward?

this crowd don’t like Nietzsche.

Nietzsche is peachy!
Some of the things he said were quite profound, others profoundly misogynistic!
He was a mixed bag, like most of us.

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

If you think that’s true then accept my challenge. Or are you too big of a coward?
Jack on July 2, 2008 at 03:46 pm

A coward he is. He amply demonstrated the fact many many times.

this crowd don’t like Nietzsche.

I dont know about this whole crowd, but I do think alot of people have a hard time with him because his ideas were based on self awareness and what really motivates human behavior and prejudices. These are traits that are discouraged in our society and others, as they lead to independent thought and non conformity. That of course leads to a splintering of the voting blocks and an unpredictable electorate.
Plus, sheep need a shepard. Shepards need sheep. The problem is that the sheep dont know the shepard really works for the wolves.

If you think that’s true then accept my challenge.
Or are you too big of a coward?

little bobbie blue doesnt work or produce so he hasnt enough $$ to accept anything like your proposal. To put your $$ were your mouth is, you need $$ and since his job is to sit and post cherry picked topics to sort of support his specious arguments for free, he cant afford to put his $$ where his mouth is.

If you make people think they’re thinking, they’ll love you; But if you really make them think, they’ll hate you.

Don Marquis 1878-1937

All you haters illustrate the wisdom of that quotation quite well.

Media uncovers more Palin stories in one weekend than Obama stories in two years. Still no bias detected

Obama: more experienced than Bristol Palin

All you haters illustrate the wisdom of that quotation quite well.

As do you my obtuse little friend.

Why bob? Why do you continue to dodge my challenge.

You’re so logical and factual it should be no problem, right?

Unless you’re just plain chicken…

Iraq is now the first [representative] democracy in the history of the ME—Robert108

Wait a sec, hasn’t Lebanon been a representative democracy for ages, and Iran was a representative democracy before the CIA backed a coup by the Shah?

You revising again?

“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” —George Orwell

Wait a sec, hasn’t Lebanon been a representative democracy for ages, and Iran was a representative democracy before the CIA backed a coup by the
Shah?

Nope.  Those were rigged elections, but nice try.  I was wrong, because of Israel.  Of course, that still makes my point, as I was discussing the benefits of our deposing Saddam.

Media uncovers more Palin stories in one weekend than Obama stories in two years. Still no bias detected

Obama: more experienced than Bristol Palin

Those were rigged elections—Robert108

Mr Logical and Factual, you got any evidence?

“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” —George Orwell

Those were rigged elections—Robert108

Mr Logical and Factual, you got any evidence?

You provided no evidence that they were “democratic”.  I’m giving you your own style right back.  You offered your opinion; I offered mine.  Don’t be such a hypocrite.

Media uncovers more Palin stories in one weekend than Obama stories in two years. Still no bias detected

Obama: more experienced than Bristol Palin