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Tuesday, August 21, 2007

9/11 Truthers Gut Punched By History Channel

Let’s hear it for the History Channel! Boldly going where former Libertarian Presidential candidates fear to tread, the History Channel’s documentary, “9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction” takes on the nut jobs and conspiracy kooks and serves up a large helping of reality, the likes of which they have not seen in a while! Rick Moran at RightWing NutHouse has the details...You might call it, Speaking Truth to “Truthers”

In what will surely be seen as a defining moment for the 9/11 truther movement, the History Channel has delivered a blow for sanity and rationalism by airing a superior documentary entitled 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction.

There’s no other way to say it; the truthers got reamed.

They got reamed to the point that the truthers who produced the internet video Loose Change are scrambling to alter the third version of their conspiracy mongering tripe, even going so far as to drop any reference to the twin towers being blown up by the government (they continue to insist WTC #7 was brought down by explosives).

The documentary took no prisoners as it destroyed almost all of the major conspiracy theories associated with 9/11 while revealing the real motivations of the truthers; that they are part of a political movement driven by raw, unreasoning hatred of George Bush, the American government, and to some extent, America itself.


The show will air again this weekend. Check your local listings but I have it in the Chicago area airing at 7:00 PM central Saturday night and 11:00 AM central on Sunday morning.

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9/11 Truthers Gut Punched By History Channel

Prominently featured were historians like David Brinkley, Editor in Chief of Popular Mechanics James Meigs, and structural engineers, explosives experts, and a host of scientists, military experts, and eyewitnesses to the disaster. The cumulative effect of the testimony of the anti-conspiracists was absolutely devastating. The show left little doubt of the unhinged nature of the truthers, showing many of them – including radio host Alex Jones who has given vast amounts of air time to every kook, crazy, and nutcase with a theory on 9/11 – looking like the anti-intellectual fruitcakes they truly are.

The format was perfect. A truther would lay out a conspiracy theory which was then immediately debunked by 2 or 3 experts. Over two hours, a couple of dozen myths associated with 9/11 were laid to rest permanently including the “missile” that hit the Pentagon, the shoot down of Flight 93, the “implosion” of the towers,” and other theories not based on fact.


The implosion theory was debunked several times over. First, by the best forensic structural engineer in the country who, with the help of some excellent graphics and animation, showed exactly how the planes caused the towers to fall. An explosives expert (a young guy who was flabbergasted at the ignorance of the truthers regarding demolition) pointed out it would have taken weeks to rig the buildings for implosion and would have involved stripping drywall and ripping out walls. The nail in the coffin was supplied by one of the engineers who prepared the final report (working for the independent American Society of Civil Engineers) who showed how the collapse of the towers accounted for such things as the puffs of smoke seen in lower floors as the collapse was occurring as well as the speed of the collapse.


This program will be a great public service if it puts to rest even a fraction of the idiocy surrounding the “Truthers” and their bizarre conspiracy claims!

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Fire doesn’t melt steel.  Does it?


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 21, 2007 at 02:55 pm
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Fire doesn’t melt steel.  Does it?

Yes it does, it has to get awful to do it though.  They use fire to get iron hot and pound out the impurities in order to make steel and give it it’s shape.

art.downs on August 21, 2007 at 03:30 pm
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I think Whistler was taking a jab at the truthers who think that the burning fuel in the World Trade Center wasn’t enough to cause the towers to crumble.


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Captain Ed over at Captain’s Quarters had this on the documentary:

The silliest and yet most revealing moment? That came near the end, when talk-radio host Alex Jones discussed his place in history (note: site may not be safe for your intellect). He told the History Channel that Galileo got persecuted when he told people that the Earth was round instead of flat. “I’m telling people the world is round!” he exclaimed.

Unfortunately, Galileo got persecuted for claiming that the Earth moved around the sun, not that the Earth was round. Learned people had accepted that the round Earth since the Greeks, and they had actually calculated the circumference with surprising accuracy. Ptolemy even came up with the system of longitude and latitude before Christ was born. However hilarious Jones’ assertion may be, it’s a great example of their scholarship.

Isn’t Ron Paul a frequent guest on Alex Jones’ radio show?



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Proof on August 21, 2007 at 07:16 pm

Ron Paul is worse than a doofus!…

Zsa Zsa on August 22, 2007 at 11:06 am

I saw the show and was astounded that liberal TV even let it air.....to say that it ponded to truthers into mush is an understatement.

The well reasoned and researched views of the interviewed participants made the truthers look exactly like what they are....babbling, histrionic attention queens.


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Pilgrim on August 22, 2007 at 01:16 pm
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There’s only one important question concerning the attacks, did the US gov’t allow/participate in 9/11?

The answer to that query would explain the illegal wire-taps, suspension of habeas corpus, banning of books like “America Deceived” from Amazon, detaining of dissenters in fences miles away from events, and multiple wars based on lies.

How can the gov’t be innocent in 9/11 when we have caught it lying so many times (WACO, Ruby Ridge, no WMDs, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, ETC.)?

In law, if you determine a person lies ONCE during his testimony, it can be assumed that he lied in the remainder of his testimony.  How come we do not hold the gov’t to the same standard as it holds us to?

The gov’t lied to us about Iraq and more Americans have died there than in 9/11.  If the gov’t lied about Iraq then why is everyone so reluctant to believe that the gov’t lied about 9/11?

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How can the gov’t be innocent in 9/11 when we have caught it lying so many times

Two words: Know thyself! Because you don’t know jack!
How can the government be innocent in 9/11 if it lied about the cause of the Spanish American War? Remember the Maine! Does that really track with you?
Pearl Harbor???? You want to hold the Bush administration responsible for what Roosevelt did? What are YOU smoking?

There’s only one important question concerning the attacks

How come so many people are off their meds? Are there mental health professionals we can refer these people to? (Sorry! That’s two questions!)



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Proof on August 22, 2007 at 02:39 pm

The Lusitania was a legitimate military target.

Plus Lincoln provoked the South to attack Fort Sumter.

And we were never told the story behind the start of the War of 1812.

The French and Indian war was untrue too.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 22, 2007 at 02:54 pm

There’s only one important question concerning the attacks, did the US gov’t allow/participate in 9/11?

The answer to that query would explain the illegal wire-taps, suspension of habeas corpus, banning of books like “America Deceived” from Amazon, detaining of dissenters in fences miles away from events, and multiple wars based on lies.

How can the gov’t be innocent in 9/11 when we have caught it lying so many times (WACO, Ruby Ridge, no WMDs, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, ETC.)?

In law, if you determine a person lies ONCE during his testimony, it can be assumed that he lied in the remainder of his testimony.  How come we do not hold the gov’t to the same standard as it holds us to?

The gov’t lied to us about Iraq and more Americans have died there than in 9/11.  If the gov’t lied about Iraq then why is everyone so reluctant to believe that the gov’t lied about 9/11?

Final link (before Google Books bends to pressure and drops the title):

If that is a leftwing loon, crickets chirping in the back ground I don’t know what is. I would suggest an atire of a straight jacket…


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goon on August 22, 2007 at 03:24 pm

There’s only one important question concerning the attacks, did the US gov’t allow/participate in 9/11?

Yes, the Clinton administration did set up the environment which made it possible for 9/11.  Nice of you to notice that.

You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on August 23, 2007 at 07:34 am
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How dare you bring up the USS LIBERTY! Israel is our friends, it was an accident, all die for Israel.

Next thing you’ll bring up is the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion, or maybe even the Ten Planks Of The Communist Manifesto and try to connect it to America.

Forget about Pearl Harbor and The McCollum Memo, it’s all lies. And remember folks “Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September 11, malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists themselves, away from the guilty.”

WETBACK on August 23, 2007 at 07:52 pm

Jack - In law, if you determine a person lies ONCE during his testimony, it can be assumed that he lied in the remainder of his testimony.

Thanks for that. Based on your lies, it can be assumed that the rest of what you say are lies. Your own words at work here.

likwidshoe on August 24, 2007 at 05:48 am

WETBACK - I am an American Israeli agent who works under the Secret Turncoat Under the Political Israeli Department or STUPID for short. You will be reported to STUPID and they will decide if you meet the requirements of STUPID to be sent to the Bluecoat Israelis Torturing Children and Humanity, or BITCH for short.

I apologize for all of this. It’s just that you have shown that you know a bit about our Assymetrical Secret Society (ASS for short) and will be treated accordingly. No offense or anything.

Boogey-boogey boo!

likwidshoe on August 24, 2007 at 06:04 am
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I thought you ment the Terrene Sleuth’s Unilateral Israeli Protection Department?

I like the Big Internment Torture Chamber Hooey, but that is one of my groups.

WETBACK on August 24, 2007 at 03:31 pm
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I have been reading the conspiracy websites since the excellent History Channel documentary aired. It is hysterical. Now they are saying that the History Channel is in bed with the government who controls all the media outlets, blah, blah, blah.

Did anyone else notice the credentials of the conspiracy theorists? A former religion professor, a radio talk show host, three 20-something college students, a nurse, a truck mechanic and several with no credentials listed.

Then look at the debunkers: Three of the top structural engineers in the country, air traffic controllers, a Air National Guard pilot, a demolition expert, FAA and NTSB crash investigators, witnesses on the ground and in the air that confirm the “official” report on what happened.

I could go on, but I think the point is made.

The assertion that the calls made from United 93 were faked was disgusting. I wanted to punch that old fart through the TV set.

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Now they are saying that the History Channel is in bed with the government who controls all the media outlets, blah, blah, blah.

AZ Kid: Conspiracy kooks are the hardest ones to convince of anything! Whenever you point to a lack of evidence, they take that as “proof” that the conspiracy is working better than ever!



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