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Okay… I’ve been debating with GEEZ PPL in this thread

GEEZ PPL

My question to you is how can you stand by a government who invades countries who have “committed acts of terror” without any conclusive proof?

I responded with:

First and foremost, the US had a cease-fire agreement with Iraq that was broken nearly EVERY SINGLE DAY for 12 years.

Second, there is massive amounts of proof that Saddam had WMD and used them.

Third, Saddam funded suicide bombers by paying $25,000 to the families of a successful terrorist attack against Israel.

We have found WMD in roadside bombs.  Papers have been found showing that Saddam was very readily able to restart his nuclear ambitions.  Joseph Wilson lied in his OP-ED to the NYT, but was mostly honest in his testimony to the Senate and his report to the CIA (perhaps you could read that text)…

You said that you agree that Saddam needed to go… but you would leave a power vacuum?  Do you think the job of overthrowing a dictator is like a video game or an epic movie????  Do you think that it should be over in 20 hours? 20 days? 20 months? These things take time and every situation is different.

How long was the US military in Japan or Germany after the end of WW2?
How long did it take to stabilize the government?

We have a large group of people actively trying to thwart the new government in Iraq.  They are not retarded.  They are religious fundamentalists who see Britney Spears and Paris Hilton as representatives of the West.  They want the West to fail in setting up a Western style government because they do not want the perversion that comes with it.

Education and TIME (and blowing the crap out of the enemy) are the only ways we can fight the zealots.

As for bombing civilians.  The US has spent BILLIONS and BILLIONS on making weapons that are extraordinarily accurate.  Why do we do that?  Because we don’t want to take innocent lives!

Yet, the freaks we are trying to kill hide among the civilians… use them for shields… and then people like you claim that we kill civilians on purpose.

Thanks for helping the terrorists!  That’s just great.  :(

If you have just missed all the news about WMD that has been found, or missed all the news about the good things we’ve done in Iraq, then fine… It doesn’t make the news… But stop being a willing accomplice to the enemy.  Stop aiding them.

The US doesn’t want LAND or Iraqi OIL… we’ve proven that OVER AND OVER!

We are not evil people looking to destroy everyone.  We just want to stop those that would kill to further their political ends.  We want peace, but peace doesn’t mean allowing the enemy to kill you.  Peace doesn’t mean “capitulation”.

GEEZ PPL replied:

BLAHBLAHBLAH....
I’m assuming that you believe in freedom of speech, democracy and all the things that make living in the free world great?!?
How is bulldozering your way through a country without any thought to the aftermath helping the ppl of Iraq?
The only reason that troops are still there is that there is a big ‘ol mess to clear up. Why did all those nations vote against invasion? Not to save themselves. Maybe they believed as i do that stomping around with ya oversized army boots will just cause anger in the ppl you’re trying to save.
Are you saying that there was no otherway to help those ppl?
Or was it just that Bush wanted to finish off the job his dad started?

How does one purchase a carbon credit and once purchased, can you return it or exchange it for some other type of credit?

Would these make good Christmas presents?

Maybe Earth Day presents?

Does the purchase of a “credit” force CO2 out of the atmosphere?

When a credit is purchased in 2007 does it hold the same value in 2008?

Can I pre-purchase carbon credits for my children like I did their pre-paid college fund?

Maybe I can leave carbon credits to people in my will?

Are Carbon Credits Taxed?  At what rate? 

Do you get a tax break for buying them?

I am on Hillary’s mailing list.  Today she writes:

Dear Seth,

Today I called on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to resign. Join me in calling for him to step down.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/resignnow

Why should Gonzales resign? Because he is at the center of a widening scandal over the firing of several U.S. attorneys—firings we now know to be political. These attacks on the impartiality of the federal government’s prosecutors are a genuine threat to the foundations of our justice system.

But what did Bill do when he was in office, just before his inquest?

From The MRC

Bode did note Reno’s unprecedented decision to fire all 93 U.S. Attorneys “has become a highly visible test of how political the Justice Department will be under Bill Clinton and Janet Reno.” But Bode let Reno declare herself non-political in three soundbites—while GOP officials never appeared in the story.

It occurs to me that the Left is fond of chaos. 

The Left will readily use scare tactics, which can cause chaos.

The Left will give light sentences to egregious criminals, creating chaos in the backlash and for the community where the criminal lives.

The Left employs mobs as a means to political ends.

The Left is adamantly anti-faith (read Christian) which is where most people find their “order” in life.

Whenever there is a problem, the Left tries to instigate as much rage and hate as is possible… to create Chaos?!? 

Why does the Left like Chaos?  Chaos doesn’t create anything positive.

For me, being conservative means:

- Use only what I need
- Spend only what I have
- Help others by teaching them to be self sufficient
- Teach my kids to live within their means
- Educate myself so I can increase my worth
- Save for my retirement
- Be generous with my knowledge and time

1. Exacly what percentage of global climate change is man’s fault?

2. Exactly what global climate change is “normal” (Eg. if man wasn’t around what would be happening to the planet?)

3. Exactly how much reduction of our use of energy would be required to return to a natural climate change?

I posted these questions as a comment here.

- Update -
The Wistler adds:
4. If the US were to completely quit producing CO2 (I don’t know how) would that satisfy question #3.

and ManOfFireAndLight says none of these can be answered, so he wants to know

5. How long is a piece of string?

I guess everyone does their initial blog posts where they say “Hi”, “How yah doin’”, etc.  Fact is most of the regulars here know me.  I’ve been posting and commenting here on Say Anything for a while now.  I had a lengthy hiatus from posting, but might have some time now and again to write some of my thoughts. 

A few years ago when I was introduced to SayAnything, I fell in love with the forum, the look, the IDEA of a medium that can reach so many… I love the thought of education. 

One of my basic driving principles is that more education is better for everyone.  Educated people can make better choices.  etc… I’ll expound on that in a while.

I think I am going to use this forum to jot down and rationalize many of my own beliefs.  I imagine that it will be therapeutic as well as educational.