The word ‘racy’ could certainly be used to cover almost anything…
Mark - 06:03am on 03/17/2006
<blockquote>Baucus said at a press conference that the .XXX domain would help parents use filtering software to keep children from accessing pornographic sites, and would help prevent hapless Internet users from inadvertently stumbling onto sexually-explicit websites that they would prefer not to see.</blockquote>
First of all, parents should be paying attention to what their kids are surfing and not rely on filtering software.
Second, "hapless" Internet users need only click on their "Home" button should they accidentally stumble onto a porn site. This is no different than changing the channel on your TV or radio if something that bothers you comes on.
Ridiculous.
Plus, it’s unenforceable. What do Pryor and Baucus want to do? Create a new federal bureaucracy whose job it is to ensure compliance on the .xxx domain issue? It’s stupid.
I was one of the people who, when this first got tossed around, thought it wasn’t a bad idea. And if you make it optional, it’s not a bad idea. Offer .xxx as a purchaseable domain suffix for sites who would like to use it, but don’t force existing .com sites to dump their identities in the name of a political stunt.
Alex Nunez - 06:03am on 03/17/2006
I believe a Pastor originally proposed this idea a few years ago. It would definately be "truth in advirtising."
FreeRepublicans.com - 07:03am on 03/17/2006
There already exist laws on the books requiring certain types of websites (i.e. Porn) to verify age of viewers. Such sites could be moved to .XXX without objection, I think. Moving beyond that standard, though, would be a mistake, and would be cause for your worry.
Dave - 09:03am on 03/17/2006
Does anyone understand how IP works and what DNS is? DNS is just a pointer to an IP address. So does 192.168.1.7 mean anything to any of you? Domain naming simply makes it easier to find IP’s.
Here is what I say we do. We form a huge government division that’s whole job is to look at all Internet traffic in our country and decide what to censor and what not to. Then we force Google to modify their search engine so that only approved content can get through.
Welcome to the People’s Republic of China folks. This is idiocy. And this is the type of stuff that originates in Washington in an election cycle so that folks can say they are trying to do something to stop internet porn or whatever other moral issue that hits voters at home. So this somehow is going to eliminate parents installing filtering? Monitoring their Kids Internet Usage? Being good parents?
What a gigantic waste of time and money.
Justin B - 10:03am on 03/17/2006
But Alex is right. Adding the xxx suffix and allowing companies to voluntarily purchase .xxx domains would be totally cool. But trying to force people to move their sites there and having the government get involved in this is retarded.
Justin B - 10:03am on 03/17/2006
How is this any different than cities and counties zoning xrated businesses in certain areas of a community. Would we be in effect "zoning’ these xrated businesses to a specific area of the internet?
Puzzlefeet - 11:03am on 03/17/2006
Puzzle, one problem with this is that it would be a monster to regulate. If we’re going to enforce this with law it is going to be a monster. The internet is huge. Reviewing sites for content and making determinations as to what is and is not "xxx" worthy is going to require a massive bureaucracy costing lots and lots of tax dollars.
People need to be responsible for monitoring the material they look at on their computers, not the government.
Rob - 11:03am on 03/17/2006
How is this any different than cities and counties zoning xrated businesses in certain areas of a community. Would we be in effect "zoning’ these xrated businesses to a specific area of the internet?
First, in order to run a strip club or a porn shop, you have to own a building. You have to get building permits and then you have to get business licenses, etc. There are zoning laws and processes that are well defined. So let’s assume that you set up a porn business and don’t comply with regulations. What happens? Someone shows up at your door and locks it. They garnish your assets and shut you down.
Here is the deal. DNS is simply a pointer that refers a "word-like" phrase or address to an IP Address. DNS is run fairly centrally, but in the end, it is simply a way to point a word or phrase to an IP. It does not alter or specify the content at that IP, so we could have hundreds of DNS entries pointing to the same IP. So let’s just do away with DNS and force folks to type in 165.3.25.88 or 138.5.6.79 to access whatever website they want to go to.
This is akin to changing the way zip codes are designed and thinking that will stop pornography from existing within the new boundries. What happens when someone hosts their site offshore like most online casinos do to avoid US regulations? Does the US Senate control the Internet? The US Government does not control .coms or .nets or .orgs. The Internet is not something that works that way and it is ignorant to think that it does. If a company exists overseas and simply has a web presence, who are we to regulate what it can contain and what name or address you can use to access it? And if we changed the rules within the US, the porn industry would simply host overseas.
The word ‘racy’ could certainly be used to cover almost anything…
<blockquote>Baucus said at a press conference that the .XXX domain would help parents use filtering software to keep children from accessing pornographic sites, and would help prevent hapless Internet users from inadvertently stumbling onto sexually-explicit websites that they would prefer not to see.</blockquote>
First of all, parents should be paying attention to what their kids are surfing and not rely on filtering software.
Second, "hapless" Internet users need only click on their "Home" button should they accidentally stumble onto a porn site. This is no different than changing the channel on your TV or radio if something that bothers you comes on.
Ridiculous.
Plus, it’s unenforceable. What do Pryor and Baucus want to do? Create a new federal bureaucracy whose job it is to ensure compliance on the .xxx domain issue? It’s stupid.
I was one of the people who, when this first got tossed around, thought it wasn’t a bad idea. And if you make it optional, it’s not a bad idea. Offer .xxx as a purchaseable domain suffix for sites who would like to use it, but don’t force existing .com sites to dump their identities in the name of a political stunt.
I believe a Pastor originally proposed this idea a few years ago. It would definately be "truth in advirtising."
There already exist laws on the books requiring certain types of websites (i.e. Porn) to verify age of viewers. Such sites could be moved to .XXX without objection, I think. Moving beyond that standard, though, would be a mistake, and would be cause for your worry.
Does anyone understand how IP works and what DNS is? DNS is just a pointer to an IP address. So does 192.168.1.7 mean anything to any of you? Domain naming simply makes it easier to find IP’s.
Here is what I say we do. We form a huge government division that’s whole job is to look at all Internet traffic in our country and decide what to censor and what not to. Then we force Google to modify their search engine so that only approved content can get through.
Welcome to the People’s Republic of China folks. This is idiocy. And this is the type of stuff that originates in Washington in an election cycle so that folks can say they are trying to do something to stop internet porn or whatever other moral issue that hits voters at home. So this somehow is going to eliminate parents installing filtering? Monitoring their Kids Internet Usage? Being good parents?
What a gigantic waste of time and money.
But Alex is right. Adding the xxx suffix and allowing companies to voluntarily purchase .xxx domains would be totally cool. But trying to force people to move their sites there and having the government get involved in this is retarded.
How is this any different than cities and counties zoning xrated businesses in certain areas of a community. Would we be in effect "zoning’ these xrated businesses to a specific area of the internet?
Puzzle, one problem with this is that it would be a monster to regulate. If we’re going to enforce this with law it is going to be a monster. The internet is huge. Reviewing sites for content and making determinations as to what is and is not "xxx" worthy is going to require a massive bureaucracy costing lots and lots of tax dollars.
People need to be responsible for monitoring the material they look at on their computers, not the government.
First, in order to run a strip club or a porn shop, you have to own a building. You have to get building permits and then you have to get business licenses, etc. There are zoning laws and processes that are well defined. So let’s assume that you set up a porn business and don’t comply with regulations. What happens? Someone shows up at your door and locks it. They garnish your assets and shut you down.
Here is the deal. DNS is simply a pointer that refers a "word-like" phrase or address to an IP Address. DNS is run fairly centrally, but in the end, it is simply a way to point a word or phrase to an IP. It does not alter or specify the content at that IP, so we could have hundreds of DNS entries pointing to the same IP. So let’s just do away with DNS and force folks to type in 165.3.25.88 or 138.5.6.79 to access whatever website they want to go to.
This is akin to changing the way zip codes are designed and thinking that will stop pornography from existing within the new boundries. What happens when someone hosts their site offshore like most online casinos do to avoid US regulations? Does the US Senate control the Internet? The US Government does not control .coms or .nets or .orgs. The Internet is not something that works that way and it is ignorant to think that it does. If a company exists overseas and simply has a web presence, who are we to regulate what it can contain and what name or address you can use to access it? And if we changed the rules within the US, the porn industry would simply host overseas.