Interesting how the Indians taking away the right of usage, gives a whole new meaning to Indian Giver, huh?
Anna - 09:10pm on 10/27/2007
Why should they? The matter’s been settled between the parties.
puzzlefeet - 09:10pm on 10/27/2007
Settled? Hardly. UND now has to get some sort of tribal authority to give them permission to use the name.
Dorgan, Conrad and Pomeroy could help facilitate that process. But they won’t.
Rob - 09:10pm on 10/27/2007
Rob I am glad that you brought this up and I am surprised this discussion wasn’t brought up earlier, I will tell you why because the three amigos are big time leftist and don’t want to piss off their base, if they came out in favor of this they could suffer the loss of votes from the three affliated tribes.
I actually think we should write them in masse and get them to at least respond to the issue.
goon - 09:10pm on 10/27/2007
I can think of nothing that a Congressman should concern himself with less.
Purchase a license from them. If they don’t want to sell one, change your name.
Lestat - 10:10pm on 10/27/2007
I can think of nothing that a Congressman should concern himself with less.
Members of Congress shouldn’t concern themselves with their constituent’s concerns over an issue involving a state-owned school’s dispute with a national collegiate sports organizations and federally-recognized indigenous peoples?
Purchase a license from them. If they don’t want to sell one, change your name.
The “Sioux” name isn’t anyone’s to license, really. But frankly, UND got permission from tribal leadership years ago to use the nickname. The problem is that the tribes are highly disorganized, and turnover among leadership is constant.
There’s got to be a better way to settle this.
Rob - 10:10pm on 10/27/2007
Rob,that you don’t like the settlement is irrelevant. If the congressional delegation did get involved then you would complain about them being nannystaters, pandering to the reservations or to the big UND donators.
Rob writes:
Dorgan, Conrad and Pomeroy could help facilitate that process. But they won’t.
You would whine about that as well. You constantly complain when they do stuff and then are now complaining because they won’t get involved in a matter that has been settle between the parties.
The name will be most likely be changed within three years as I hardly think the tribes will change their minds at this time. Once the name is changed this will all fade and UND will go on to be as strong as it is now. The school is so much more than the name of its teams.
Puzzlefeet - 06:10am on 10/28/2007
The “Sioux” name isn’t anyone’s to license, really. But frankly, UND got permission from tribal leadership years ago to use the nickname.
The NCAA seems to disagree with you and since they are the ones who hold the hamer, license the damn name. Once you license it the turnover in the tribe is irrelevant until the license expires.
Members of Congress shouldn’t concern themselves with their constituent’s concerns over an issue involving a state-owned school’s dispute with a national collegiate sports organizations and federally-recognized indigenous peoples?
The fact that you are passionate about this does not make it important. Our Congressman have better ways to spend their time.
Lestat - 07:10am on 10/28/2007
The fact that you are passionate about this does not make it important. Our Congressman have better ways to spend their time.
i can hear the crickets chirping as they answer…
Interesting how the Indians taking away the right of usage, gives a whole new meaning to Indian Giver, huh?
Why should they? The matter’s been settled between the parties.
Settled? Hardly. UND now has to get some sort of tribal authority to give them permission to use the name.
Dorgan, Conrad and Pomeroy could help facilitate that process. But they won’t.
Rob I am glad that you brought this up and I am surprised this discussion wasn’t brought up earlier, I will tell you why because the three amigos are big time leftist and don’t want to piss off their base, if they came out in favor of this they could suffer the loss of votes from the three affliated tribes.
I actually think we should write them in masse and get them to at least respond to the issue.
I can think of nothing that a Congressman should concern himself with less.
Purchase a license from them. If they don’t want to sell one, change your name.
Members of Congress shouldn’t concern themselves with their constituent’s concerns over an issue involving a state-owned school’s dispute with a national collegiate sports organizations and federally-recognized indigenous peoples?
The “Sioux” name isn’t anyone’s to license, really. But frankly, UND got permission from tribal leadership years ago to use the nickname. The problem is that the tribes are highly disorganized, and turnover among leadership is constant.
There’s got to be a better way to settle this.
Rob,that you don’t like the settlement is irrelevant. If the congressional delegation did get involved then you would complain about them being nannystaters, pandering to the reservations or to the big UND donators.
Rob writes:
You would whine about that as well. You constantly complain when they do stuff and then are now complaining because they won’t get involved in a matter that has been settle between the parties.The name will be most likely be changed within three years as I hardly think the tribes will change their minds at this time. Once the name is changed this will all fade and UND will go on to be as strong as it is now. The school is so much more than the name of its teams.
The NCAA seems to disagree with you and since they are the ones who hold the hamer, license the damn name. Once you license it the turnover in the tribe is irrelevant until the license expires.
The fact that you are passionate about this does not make it important. Our Congressman have better ways to spend their time.
Right. Like name post offices and stuff.