I read some research studies on stem cell research awhile back. It suggested that embryonic $tem cells were really not necessary. It also suggested that embronic research gave false hopes to desperate individuals and had no foundation other than the desire to recieve federal funding. It is sad that many of us have family members that are brain damaged, and OR are terminally ill. BUT adult stem cells are supposedly just as effective if not more so than embryonic. $adly embryonic $tem cell research I$ more about the money than the actual di$ea$e.
Zsa Zsa - 07:01pm on 01/07/2007
Adult stem cells are helping people today.
embryonic stem cells have not shown much promise at all. (They keep turning into cancer as it turns out.)
Maybe someday they’ll figure that out. I’m not willing to fund it for 50 years to give some scientists a job where they don’t have to produce anything.
The Whistler - 08:01pm on 01/07/2007
Yep Zsa,
Just wait and see how long it takes the [dead babies at any cost] lobby to start refuting this report, and explaining to us yet again how stupid we are for thinking that medical progress can be made without killing human beings at any stage of life.
And how stupid I am, for saying something like “human beings at any stage of life” while they bicker and ague over the meaning of “human”, and “life”.
I’ll give em til tuesday.
Marty - 08:01pm on 01/07/2007
My issue has all along been Federal funding. Why must the USG pay for medical research that the R&D establishment keeps telling them is unproductive? And why is Federal funding withheld from the feilds that are showing results? And again, why is the Federal Government funding ANY research? The Dems screech endlessly that the medical/pharmecutical industries are vastly wealthy. Why, exactly, are the Dems insisting that the USG pay for their R&D?
I am not a doctor, or a politician, just a thinker. And I think this is a big, steaming pile of crap.
2Hotel9 - 05:01am on 01/08/2007
Nice find The Whistler. Good to know that me being appalled by ESC research is justified on scientific grounds too.
And again, why is the Federal Government funding ANY research?--2Hotel9
You mean like stealh fighters and bombers? I agree they are a waste of money. To detect `stealth’ fighters, all you need is some seperation between the radar transmitter and reciever. Suddenly very easy to spot `stealth’ aircraft.
Anarchist Vegetarian - 05:01am on 01/08/2007
FR, you have obviously never tried to shoot down an aircraft. Like so much else in your metrosexual, 20odd life.
2Hotel9 - 08:01am on 01/08/2007
Guys...It is interesting to see how medical research plays upon desperate individuals. Unfortunately most all of us at one time or another are faced with, or are going to be faced with illness. BUT what really is inevitable can’t be changed no matter what. We all are going to die. What I think is sad is the drug companies and research teams that rely on funding from the government. They play with the emotions of families AND act as if embryonic stem cell research IS the answer to their prayers. Adult stem cell research supposedly is just as effective if not more so than embryonic. AND it doesn’t have the contravertial termoil that many of us don’t desire to be apart of…
Zsa Zsa - 02:01pm on 01/08/2007
It is just unnecessary to destroy embryos; all the benefits can be had from amniotic stem cells, cord blood stem cells, and adult stem cells.
robert108 - 02:01pm on 01/08/2007
Robert108...The researchers don’t want people to know that. Celebs such as Chris Reeves and Michael J Fox are being played like a fiddle. It is all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Zsa Zsa - 02:01pm on 01/08/2007
Oh, and FR, I 100% agree. Federal Government should not be funding weapons/armor/electronic R&D.
I read some research studies on stem cell research awhile back. It suggested that embryonic $tem cells were really not necessary. It also suggested that embronic research gave false hopes to desperate individuals and had no foundation other than the desire to recieve federal funding. It is sad that many of us have family members that are brain damaged, and OR are terminally ill. BUT adult stem cells are supposedly just as effective if not more so than embryonic. $adly embryonic $tem cell research I$ more about the money than the actual di$ea$e.
Adult stem cells are helping people today.
embryonic stem cells have not shown much promise at all. (They keep turning into cancer as it turns out.)
Maybe someday they’ll figure that out. I’m not willing to fund it for 50 years to give some scientists a job where they don’t have to produce anything.
Yep Zsa,
Just wait and see how long it takes the [dead babies at any cost] lobby to start refuting this report, and explaining to us yet again how stupid we are for thinking that medical progress can be made without killing human beings at any stage of life.
And how stupid I am, for saying something like “human beings at any stage of life” while they bicker and ague over the meaning of “human”, and “life”.
I’ll give em til tuesday.
My issue has all along been Federal funding. Why must the USG pay for medical research that the R&D establishment keeps telling them is unproductive? And why is Federal funding withheld from the feilds that are showing results? And again, why is the Federal Government funding ANY research? The Dems screech endlessly that the medical/pharmecutical industries are vastly wealthy. Why, exactly, are the Dems insisting that the USG pay for their R&D?
I am not a doctor, or a politician, just a thinker. And I think this is a big, steaming pile of crap.
Nice find The Whistler. Good to know that me being appalled by ESC research is justified on scientific grounds too.
You mean like stealh fighters and bombers? I agree they are a waste of money. To detect `stealth’ fighters, all you need is some seperation between the radar transmitter and reciever. Suddenly very easy to spot `stealth’ aircraft.
FR, you have obviously never tried to shoot down an aircraft. Like so much else in your metrosexual, 20odd life.
Guys...It is interesting to see how medical research plays upon desperate individuals. Unfortunately most all of us at one time or another are faced with, or are going to be faced with illness. BUT what really is inevitable can’t be changed no matter what. We all are going to die. What I think is sad is the drug companies and research teams that rely on funding from the government. They play with the emotions of families AND act as if embryonic stem cell research IS the answer to their prayers. Adult stem cell research supposedly is just as effective if not more so than embryonic. AND it doesn’t have the contravertial termoil that many of us don’t desire to be apart of…
It is just unnecessary to destroy embryos; all the benefits can be had from amniotic stem cells, cord blood stem cells, and adult stem cells.
Robert108...The researchers don’t want people to know that. Celebs such as Chris Reeves and Michael J Fox are being played like a fiddle. It is all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Oh, and FR, I 100% agree. Federal Government should not be funding weapons/armor/electronic R&D.