We do know that the leftie news media (in Britain) ran faked pictures in order to indict the Marines.
That’s enough proof for me to assume it’s a hoax, until actual evidence comes along.
The Whistler - 10:06am on 06/09/2006
I think that we have to hold some amount of skepticism about the “inside reports” on the investigations. They may well turn up something very dirty, but you don’t know how much of what the officials are reacting to is from the investigation and how much of it are from an obviously slanted report in Times Magazine.
So my thoughts are, we don’t know whether the film even of the Haditha tragedy, or whether they were taken someplace else: It’s not like the insurgency doesn’t have plenty of other photo ops, with daily massacres of Shiites, or anything like that.
Carrick - 12:06pm on 06/09/2006
As I pointed out in the post, the fact that we’re even debating this is “a serious indictment of the media (and politicians like Rep. John Murtha) who have already concluded that there was a massacre and that our Marines are guilty of it.”
Rob - 12:06pm on 06/09/2006
Rob,
I wonder if Kilo Company can qualify as a class and sue for defamation? That would be sweet.
Out Here
Rodney Graves
Rodney Graves - 01:06pm on 06/09/2006
It’s interesting that the MSM and the Dems question the “timing” of Zarqawi’s death, implying that it was “timed” for some political reason, but when they wait to bring out some alleged scandal for six months, it’s never about their “timing”. I’m just sayin’…
robert108 - 02:06pm on 06/09/2006
It’s interesting that the MSM and the Dems question the “timing” of Zarqawi’s death, implying that it was “timed” for some political reason, but when they wait to bring out some alleged scandal for six months, it’s never about their “timing”. I’m just sayin’...
Bring it out? It was kept under wraps. And the Marines have already admitted they lied.
diane - 04:06pm on 06/09/2006
So let me get this straight. Haditha is a hoax?
I must be getting my information from another dimension. The real stand out from the other dimension is the wounded Marine who was there and part of the operation as well as Kilo Company. His statement regarding his felow Marines seemed to sum it up for me. He stated,
“I guess they were just blinded by hate...”
Of course my mind is open as the facts unfold but this one looks bad. Remember, no noe wanted to admit that AbuGhraib was actual and though it doesn’t come close to this level of illegality turns out people are doing hard time for “actions which the import and illegality of which are questionable at best”.
Tragically, these things happen in war and neither side has a monopoly on madness. Remember, the first casualty of any war is truth.
Michael Toborowsky - 08:06pm on 06/10/2006
Michael, if you’re going to be objective, you at least need to get the facts straight. The wounded marine you speak of was knocked unconscious by the IED and saw none of the alleged attacks.
As I mentioned in another post, the problem with Haditha is the length of time since the incident, and the publication of witness accounts by the media. If you can’t figure out why these are problems, I can give more detail.
The real probative evidence will be the forensics, which again will be more difficult because of the length of time since the event in question.
Carrick - 08:06pm on 06/10/2006
Carrick,
I see your point about that guy. Thanks. It’s been a long day.... but thanks.
We do know that the leftie news media (in Britain) ran faked pictures in order to indict the Marines.
That’s enough proof for me to assume it’s a hoax, until actual evidence comes along.
I think that we have to hold some amount of skepticism about the “inside reports” on the investigations. They may well turn up something very dirty, but you don’t know how much of what the officials are reacting to is from the investigation and how much of it are from an obviously slanted report in Times Magazine.
So my thoughts are, we don’t know whether the film even of the Haditha tragedy, or whether they were taken someplace else: It’s not like the insurgency doesn’t have plenty of other photo ops, with daily massacres of Shiites, or anything like that.
As I pointed out in the post, the fact that we’re even debating this is “a serious indictment of the media (and politicians like Rep. John Murtha) who have already concluded that there was a massacre and that our Marines are guilty of it.”
Rob,
I wonder if Kilo Company can qualify as a class and sue for defamation? That would be sweet.
Out Here
Rodney Graves
It’s interesting that the MSM and the Dems question the “timing” of Zarqawi’s death, implying that it was “timed” for some political reason, but when they wait to bring out some alleged scandal for six months, it’s never about their “timing”. I’m just sayin’…
It’s interesting that the MSM and the Dems question the “timing” of Zarqawi’s death, implying that it was “timed” for some political reason, but when they wait to bring out some alleged scandal for six months, it’s never about their “timing”. I’m just sayin’...
Bring it out? It was kept under wraps. And the Marines have already admitted they lied.
So let me get this straight. Haditha is a hoax?
I must be getting my information from another dimension. The real stand out from the other dimension is the wounded Marine who was there and part of the operation as well as Kilo Company. His statement regarding his felow Marines seemed to sum it up for me. He stated,
“I guess they were just blinded by hate...”
Of course my mind is open as the facts unfold but this one looks bad. Remember, no noe wanted to admit that AbuGhraib was actual and though it doesn’t come close to this level of illegality turns out people are doing hard time for “actions which the import and illegality of which are questionable at best”.
Tragically, these things happen in war and neither side has a monopoly on madness. Remember, the first casualty of any war is truth.
Michael, if you’re going to be objective, you at least need to get the facts straight. The wounded marine you speak of was knocked unconscious by the IED and saw none of the alleged attacks.
As I mentioned in another post, the problem with Haditha is the length of time since the incident, and the publication of witness accounts by the media. If you can’t figure out why these are problems, I can give more detail.
The real probative evidence will be the forensics, which again will be more difficult because of the length of time since the event in question.
Carrick,
I see your point about that guy. Thanks. It’s been a long day.... but thanks.