BTW, please explain what you mean by “Communism is Evil?”
How clueless can you get.
Ken McCracken - 03:06pm on 06/27/2008
Maybe their goal is to keep firearms under tight control so that it’s not so easy to go around shooting at anything that moves, as in the US?
That’s why you should never be allowed to exercise your 2nd amendment right. Until you mentioned that you think having a gun means that you automatically shoot at anything that moves (project much?), I’ve never in 45 years known of anyone that owns a gun with the mentality to shoot at anything that moves. It’s all in your head.
Spartacus - 03:06pm on 06/27/2008
BTW, please explain what you mean by “Communism is Evil?”
You mean beyond brutal suppression of human rights, genocides killing about 100 million people, hundreds of aggressive and unprovoked wars, and poverty for all except for selected Communist Party members?
What color is the sun on your planet, Oswaldo?
Bike Bubba - 03:06pm on 06/27/2008
Oswaldo has had six hours to read and respond. I think that he is not personally responsible for what he writes or asks. Maybe he thinks that some magic social responsibility will fall from the sky and enlighten everyone.
Chief RZ - 06:06pm on 06/27/2008
Oswaldo has had six hours to read and respond.
Chief - write it off as a hit and run.
Spartacus - 07:06pm on 06/27/2008
Oswaldo. You join three previous posters on my list of personally irresponsible people. Last chance.
Chief RZ - 06:06pm on 06/28/2008
Chief RZ,
I’ll get back to you. Too many personal tasks to take care right now.
Bear with me.
Oswaldo - 08:06pm on 06/28/2008
Chief
I thought I’d get back to you now that I have some time. I’ve been doing some traveling. Next week I’ll be in France enjoying a good Bordeaux, and Camembert or Brie cheese on a baguette, with our country’s French friends. I’ll have my laptop with me to continue this discussion.
I’d like to avoid the subject of gun control for the moment if you don’t mind, and get to my question
“Why is communism evil?” I was referring to communism as an economic system, not the dictatorial ideology represented strictly and only by the former Soviet Union or Communist China. In connection with the latter, I can understand (to some extent) Bike Bubba’s reaction:
You mean beyond brutal suppression of human rights, genocides killing about 100 million people, hundreds of aggressive and unprovoked wars, and poverty for all except for selected Communist Party members?
No BB, that’s not what I mean.
Making blanket statements or generalizations like “Communism is evil” really doesn’t mean much; not more than saying “Capitalism is evil.” We saw what illogical nonsense Karl Marx was spewing about capitalism in his “Das Kapital.” Yet he was able with his indefensible gobbledygook to get the wrong people to believe that a “dictatorship of the proletariat,” the working classes, should prevail over the free-market “evils of capitalism.” He should have confined himself to an objective analysis of the respective, objective principles of capitalism and communism.
Communism as it existed in the Soviet Union and its Eastern European satellites was excessive in its attempt at governmental control and planning of all market mechanisms, especially by force.
Communism and the communist parties in Western Europe, for example Italy and France, are different. They no longer go to such extremes as advocating full state ownership or even control of all economic activity, companies, farms, etc. Their goal might be said to be more like trying to team with the more moderate socialists in their action aimed at protecting the rights of citizens, and workers in particular, and curbing the excesses of “laissez-faire” policies.
Communism has become a “label” in the United States used indiscriminately to assail anything that rubs us the wrong way politically or morally. If you say anything positive about communism or negative about capitalism in this country, you are not “patriotic,” you hate America, etc. You’ll agree that such labeling is simplistic nonsense.
Branding or name-calling is no way to debate any subject. Reflections must be kept in perspective and on a loftier plane.
I’m always trying to be the devil’s advocate in any of the discussions here, so thanks in advance for not hastily concluding anything about my core ideological, religious or philosophical views. For example, don’t call me a “lousy commie rat.” Or something like that; Actually, okay, it’s a free country. You to call me whatever you want, even with a gun if you like (1st and 2nd Amendments).
How clueless can you get.
That’s why you should never be allowed to exercise your 2nd amendment right. Until you mentioned that you think having a gun means that you automatically shoot at anything that moves (project much?), I’ve never in 45 years known of anyone that owns a gun with the mentality to shoot at anything that moves. It’s all in your head.
You mean beyond brutal suppression of human rights, genocides killing about 100 million people, hundreds of aggressive and unprovoked wars, and poverty for all except for selected Communist Party members?
What color is the sun on your planet, Oswaldo?
Oswaldo has had six hours to read and respond. I think that he is not personally responsible for what he writes or asks. Maybe he thinks that some magic social responsibility will fall from the sky and enlighten everyone.
Chief - write it off as a hit and run.
Oswaldo. You join three previous posters on my list of personally irresponsible people. Last chance.
Chief RZ,
I’ll get back to you. Too many personal tasks to take care right now.
Bear with me.
Chief
I thought I’d get back to you now that I have some time. I’ve been doing some traveling. Next week I’ll be in France enjoying a good Bordeaux, and Camembert or Brie cheese on a baguette, with our country’s French friends. I’ll have my laptop with me to continue this discussion.
I’d like to avoid the subject of gun control for the moment if you don’t mind, and get to my question
“Why is communism evil?” I was referring to communism as an economic system, not the dictatorial ideology represented strictly and only by the former Soviet Union or Communist China. In connection with the latter, I can understand (to some extent) Bike Bubba’s reaction:
No BB, that’s not what I mean.
Making blanket statements or generalizations like “Communism is evil” really doesn’t mean much; not more than saying “Capitalism is evil.” We saw what illogical nonsense Karl Marx was spewing about capitalism in his “Das Kapital.” Yet he was able with his indefensible gobbledygook to get the wrong people to believe that a “dictatorship of the proletariat,” the working classes, should prevail over the free-market “evils of capitalism.” He should have confined himself to an objective analysis of the respective, objective principles of capitalism and communism.
Communism as it existed in the Soviet Union and its Eastern European satellites was excessive in its attempt at governmental control and planning of all market mechanisms, especially by force.
Communism and the communist parties in Western Europe, for example Italy and France, are different. They no longer go to such extremes as advocating full state ownership or even control of all economic activity, companies, farms, etc. Their goal might be said to be more like trying to team with the more moderate socialists in their action aimed at protecting the rights of citizens, and workers in particular, and curbing the excesses of “laissez-faire” policies.
Communism has become a “label” in the United States used indiscriminately to assail anything that rubs us the wrong way politically or morally. If you say anything positive about communism or negative about capitalism in this country, you are not “patriotic,” you hate America, etc. You’ll agree that such labeling is simplistic nonsense.
Branding or name-calling is no way to debate any subject. Reflections must be kept in perspective and on a loftier plane.
I’m always trying to be the devil’s advocate in any of the discussions here, so thanks in advance for not hastily concluding anything about my core ideological, religious or philosophical views. For example, don’t call me a “lousy commie rat.” Or something like that; Actually, okay, it’s a free country. You to call me whatever you want, even with a gun if you like (1st and 2nd Amendments).