This type of pregnancy makes it impossible for the baby to live and also will kill the mother. This is one example of where aborting the pregnancy is necessary.
I’m not expecting the general population to understand that there is a difference in how one saves the life of the mother in the example of an ectopic pregnancy, but this might help:
“The removal of the fallopian tube where the fetus has been implanted is the moral way of taking care of the mother, however, the fetus does die. In this act, the indirect dead of another (the fetus) is the secondary effect of the good/indifferent act of the removal of the infected fallopian tube. Methotrexate cannot be used because it directly kills the fetus. The fact that the child will not survive is not relevant to the action. “
Also please note, that of all the abortions performed in the US less than 1% of them are due because of Rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.
Ace25 - 09:01am on 01/24/2008
hahah. Move_Zig.
You first start off by telling me in so many words that i should have just searched the info when all you found was general information on her yourself, so you then tell me to go find myself.
Well, I found it. Betty Friedan, the great feminist “In 1969… was a founder of the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws, now known as Naral Pro-Choice America.”
Doh. Misread your post above move_zig. My apologies!
dirl126 - 10:01am on 01/24/2008
Ace25 - Are you suggesting that the only moral way to remedy an ectopic pregnancy is to remove the fallopian tube in its entirety? so as not to directly harm the fetus? Where did you get that quote? This struck my curiosity.
Hairy Polemic - All law is based on morals. Without the moral arguments, there would be no laws. Who decides that it is “wrong” to kill, steal, or rape? Those are all moral laws.
Pro-PreConception-Choice - 05:02am on 02/15/2008
PPC,
Are YOU suggesting that the relatively rare incidence of ectopic pregnancy justifies the wholesale slaughter of inconvenient innocent young life?
Bat One - 06:02am on 02/15/2008
If a woman experiences an ectopic pregnancy it is impossible to have the baby. It will burst inside the fallopian tube.
Zsa Zsa - 12:02pm on 02/15/2008
Bat One - I am not suggesting that at all. I am merely inquiring about where this idea came from. I have never heard of this before. My name explains my feelings. I am only pro-choice as far as conception...meaning that I think the choice is made when you go to bed with someone, not months later.
Pro-PreConception-Choice - 02:02pm on 02/16/2008
PPC,
If my inference was in error, I apologize. I trust you can see where it came from?
I’m pleased that we are agreed for the need to assume responsibility BEFORE, rather than after, the fact...erh… act.
There are few things in this world as beautiful as a woman who is pregnant… and wants to be. And few things more tragic than one who does not.
Bat One - 02:02pm on 02/16/2008
Bat One - No harm done. I could have been more clear about my statement. I like that last paragraph there. It is true (from my current situation). My wife is pregnant and looks more beautiful than I could ever have imagined.
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Pro-PreConception-Choice - 02:02am on 02/17/2008
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I’m not expecting the general population to understand that there is a difference in how one saves the life of the mother in the example of an ectopic pregnancy, but this might help:
“The removal of the fallopian tube where the fetus has been implanted is the moral way of taking care of the mother, however, the fetus does die. In this act, the indirect dead of another (the fetus) is the secondary effect of the good/indifferent act of the removal of the infected fallopian tube. Methotrexate cannot be used because it directly kills the fetus. The fact that the child will not survive is not relevant to the action. “
Also please note, that of all the abortions performed in the US less than 1% of them are due because of Rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.
hahah. Move_Zig.
You first start off by telling me in so many words that i should have just searched the info when all you found was general information on her yourself, so you then tell me to go find myself.
Well, I found it. Betty Friedan, the great feminist “In 1969… was a founder of the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws, now known as Naral Pro-Choice America.”
Sigh.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/05/MNGQJH32DT1.DTL
Doh. Misread your post above move_zig. My apologies!
Ace25 - Are you suggesting that the only moral way to remedy an ectopic pregnancy is to remove the fallopian tube in its entirety? so as not to directly harm the fetus? Where did you get that quote? This struck my curiosity.
Hairy Polemic - All law is based on morals. Without the moral arguments, there would be no laws. Who decides that it is “wrong” to kill, steal, or rape? Those are all moral laws.
PPC,
Are YOU suggesting that the relatively rare incidence of ectopic pregnancy justifies the wholesale slaughter of inconvenient innocent young life?
If a woman experiences an ectopic pregnancy it is impossible to have the baby. It will burst inside the fallopian tube.
Bat One - I am not suggesting that at all. I am merely inquiring about where this idea came from. I have never heard of this before. My name explains my feelings. I am only pro-choice as far as conception...meaning that I think the choice is made when you go to bed with someone, not months later.
PPC,
If my inference was in error, I apologize. I trust you can see where it came from?
I’m pleased that we are agreed for the need to assume responsibility BEFORE, rather than after, the fact...erh… act.
There are few things in this world as beautiful as a woman who is pregnant… and wants to be. And few things more tragic than one who does not.
Bat One - No harm done. I could have been more clear about my statement. I like that last paragraph there. It is true (from my current situation). My wife is pregnant and looks more beautiful than I could ever have imagined.
---Did everyone else abandon this page?
This post is almost a month old now, so most of the commenters have moved on. There may still be a few people subscribed to the comments, but for the most part they’re busy on newer threads.
If you’ve got things you want to talk about, get a reader blog and post away! The link is up on the right sidebar.