Our kids’ school has done a number of things in recent years. We have locks on the classroom doors, video surveillance, telephones in the classrooms, visitor sign in....
All of these things are good, but they won’t do one thing to stop a school shooting or really any serious crime.
The Whistler - 05:09pm on 09/18/2007
Says the man with the head up his ass!
Proof, you should have announced yourself.
WOOF - 05:09pm on 09/18/2007
The employer owns the business (or works for the people who own the business) and thus it is his/her right to say what goes on there.
I wasn’t able to tell from the article whether it was a public or private school, though it appears to be a public one. If this is the case, and she’s got her concealed weapons permit, she absolutely should be able to bring the gun to school. The second amendment should trump anything the locals can throw at her. If it’s a private school, however, I would think they would have a lot more leeway in preventing her from carrying the gun on campus.
Daniel - 06:09pm on 09/18/2007
Why are veterans not fast tracked into teaching? Seems a logical course on several levels. Bearing arms being only one. Fund of experience across the water, in countries other than the one they were born in, being another. A proven level of dedication to the task at hand, and a disciplined approach to solving problems ain’t a bad indicator, either.
And many teachers are quite acceptable as hunting license holders, yet they can not carry for protection? Of our children?
Good googly moogly! The shed full of semi-useless crap at the top of my driveway is more aggressively protected than 99.99% of schools in this country.
Am I, seriously, the only one who sees something wrong with this picture?
2Hotel9 - 06:09pm on 09/18/2007
I don’t think people have a right to bring their guns to work.
Isn’t that an infringement violating the 2bd amendment?
docdave - 06:09pm on 09/18/2007
Mr Whistler, of course I am not against female anything AS LONG AS THEY CAN DO THE JOB! Not many women are qualified for jobs that are typically male dominated. I am a skilled marksman when it comes to target shooting but considering I am not trained in defense and just weighing in over the 100 lb mark, I seriously doubt I could stop someone from taking a weapon from me.
I am a self confessing weakling, and I am willing to admit there are some things better left to men.
So, give me a beefy male bodyguard any day and I you won’t hear me complaining.
Anna - 06:09pm on 09/18/2007
The idea of teachers carrying guns is completely insane! Not mildly insane, insane on multiple levels. The entire idea is so mentally shallow I just don’t know where to start...that being said, here goes.
Teachers “can” or as the Honorable Sen. from Wisconsin wishes..teachers are ‘required’ to pack heat.
Why would you think that guns in school in any way, shape or form implies safety? For that matter, where do you have impervious safety on the planet?
at any rate this is so delightfully ignorant..I find it a wonderful topic.
1. do they need to be secured while at school?
where?
loaded?
2. do teachers need to be competent with the firearm?
you want old mrs. olson the librarian to try to be able to make a decent kill shot or just spray into the crowd?
3. are the teachers more or less stable than the lunatics that open fire in the school?
4. give a teacher a gun and there is a good chance you will be paying fewer administrative salaries.
5. ok?!! who’s got my gun.....johnnny!!!?
6. feed em breakfast, lunch, dinner, maintain discipline, don’t hurt their self-esteem, monitor the halls, lecture, drill, practice, quiz, test, shoot those rampaging teenagers, hold parent teacher conferences,504’s, IEP’s, title 9, title 14, MISO3’s,
7. What happens when they miss?
8. What happens when they don’t miss?
9. What happens if they don’t return fire? or take one for the team?
10. what makes you think there aren’t already guns in school?
imagine - 06:09pm on 09/18/2007
Proof, you should have announced yourself.
I did! You didn’t hear me because...you had your head up your ass!
Proof - 06:09pm on 09/18/2007
do teachers need to be competent with the firearm?
Stupid question, but consider the source!
Anyone who picks up a firearm for self defense anywhere on the planet, not just schools, needs to be competent. Would it be any less moronic to ask if drivers of motor vehicles should be competent before they drive on public highways?
No teacher would be allowed to carry a gun who didn’t exhibit both a minimum level of competency and an intellectual level above “imagine” or a six yr. old, whichever is higher!
Proof - 07:09pm on 09/18/2007
and we will pay for the training how?
Proof you are a complete abrasive ass in nearly every post of yours I have ever read. Congrats you are consistent.
Context and content. The question stated was intended to provoke a higher level of discussion or thinking...but as you are want to do on a regular basis...you temporarily pull your head out to say something rude, and then completely miss the point.
It would be cheaper and contain far fewer liabilities to hire armed security than to expect firearm training of someone hired to teach our children to read.
Our kids’ school has done a number of things in recent years. We have locks on the classroom doors, video surveillance, telephones in the classrooms, visitor sign in....
All of these things are good, but they won’t do one thing to stop a school shooting or really any serious crime.
Proof, you should have announced yourself.
I wasn’t able to tell from the article whether it was a public or private school, though it appears to be a public one. If this is the case, and she’s got her concealed weapons permit, she absolutely should be able to bring the gun to school. The second amendment should trump anything the locals can throw at her. If it’s a private school, however, I would think they would have a lot more leeway in preventing her from carrying the gun on campus.
Why are veterans not fast tracked into teaching? Seems a logical course on several levels. Bearing arms being only one. Fund of experience across the water, in countries other than the one they were born in, being another. A proven level of dedication to the task at hand, and a disciplined approach to solving problems ain’t a bad indicator, either.
And many teachers are quite acceptable as hunting license holders, yet they can not carry for protection? Of our children?
Good googly moogly! The shed full of semi-useless crap at the top of my driveway is more aggressively protected than 99.99% of schools in this country.
Am I, seriously, the only one who sees something wrong with this picture?
Isn’t that an infringement violating the 2bd amendment?
Mr Whistler, of course I am not against female anything AS LONG AS THEY CAN DO THE JOB! Not many women are qualified for jobs that are typically male dominated. I am a skilled marksman when it comes to target shooting but considering I am not trained in defense and just weighing in over the 100 lb mark, I seriously doubt I could stop someone from taking a weapon from me.
I am a self confessing weakling, and I am willing to admit there are some things better left to men.
So, give me a beefy male bodyguard any day and I you won’t hear me complaining.
The idea of teachers carrying guns is completely insane! Not mildly insane, insane on multiple levels. The entire idea is so mentally shallow I just don’t know where to start...that being said, here goes.
Teachers “can” or as the Honorable Sen. from Wisconsin wishes..teachers are ‘required’ to pack heat.
Why would you think that guns in school in any way, shape or form implies safety? For that matter, where do you have impervious safety on the planet?
at any rate this is so delightfully ignorant..I find it a wonderful topic.
1. do they need to be secured while at school?
where?
loaded?
2. do teachers need to be competent with the firearm?
you want old mrs. olson the librarian to try to be able to make a decent kill shot or just spray into the crowd?
3. are the teachers more or less stable than the lunatics that open fire in the school?
4. give a teacher a gun and there is a good chance you will be paying fewer administrative salaries.
5. ok?!! who’s got my gun.....johnnny!!!?
6. feed em breakfast, lunch, dinner, maintain discipline, don’t hurt their self-esteem, monitor the halls, lecture, drill, practice, quiz, test, shoot those rampaging teenagers, hold parent teacher conferences,504’s, IEP’s, title 9, title 14, MISO3’s,
7. What happens when they miss?
8. What happens when they don’t miss?
9. What happens if they don’t return fire? or take one for the team?
10. what makes you think there aren’t already guns in school?
I did! You didn’t hear me because...you had your head up your ass!
Stupid question, but consider the source!
Anyone who picks up a firearm for self defense anywhere on the planet, not just schools, needs to be competent. Would it be any less moronic to ask if drivers of motor vehicles should be competent before they drive on public highways?
No teacher would be allowed to carry a gun who didn’t exhibit both a minimum level of competency and an intellectual level above “imagine” or a six yr. old, whichever is higher!
and we will pay for the training how?
Proof you are a complete abrasive ass in nearly every post of yours I have ever read. Congrats you are consistent.
Context and content. The question stated was intended to provoke a higher level of discussion or thinking...but as you are want to do on a regular basis...you temporarily pull your head out to say something rude, and then completely miss the point.
It would be cheaper and contain far fewer liabilities to hire armed security than to expect firearm training of someone hired to teach our children to read.