A friend once told me that we didn’t have to invade the middle east to make changes, all we had to do was drop a bunch of porn and dvd players and the government would be overthrown on its own and so much cheaper without bloodshed. Hm… wonder if we should try it in Iran.
Puzzlefeet - 10:05am on 05/16/2006
This isn’t an antiwar thread.
robert108 - 10:05am on 05/16/2006
I see Puzzle’s point, though. I recently did a post called “Is Porn Good For Islam?”
I’m not sure that porn, specifically, would be a good thing to drop on these people...but certainly the more exposure they get to western culture the more they’re going to want the western-style freedoms that are at the heart of it.
Rob - 10:05am on 05/16/2006
This article, and Puzzle’s glib comment, are both worth remembering the next time some Congressional Pooh-Bah, of either party, decides on our behalf that the internet needs regulating… and taxing too.
Bat One - 10:05am on 05/16/2006
R108, lighten up, it wasn’t meant to be antiwar, it was meant to show that porn could destabilize a muslim country since they are accessing the web for porn. You are so quick to attack. If you don’t like what I write, ignore it. And besides I;ll be waiting for the same comment from you to Bat One Bat One for bringing up taxing the internet. I guess I’ll wait until hell freezes over for that from you.
Puzzlefeet - 11:05am on 05/16/2006
I’m going to go all biblical on you. Ja’ver notice when someone is really deep in some sin or another and feeling guilty how judgemental they all get? I remember when Jimmy Swaggart was seeing whores for nude dances how he railed against porn and immoratlity and such just before he was caught.
So, when we see the muslims waving signs about the great satan, what ARE they doing at home in the dark that makes them feel so guilty they rail against it all the way they do?
King David was going to beat the heck out of a guy for stealing a sheep till he learned from the prophet it was all about him. David had slept with Bathsheba, knocked her up and killed her husband to hide the evidence. Indignity sometimes reveals guilt.
So WHY DO the muslims riot so readily. Could XXX websites have ANYTHING to do with that?
Just asking.
Gene Redlin - 11:05am on 05/16/2006
Actually I had heard that contrary to what you hear in the press that homosexuality was a “problem” in muslim countries. I did find an interesting link about why Islamic societies are dysfunctional.
The Whistler - 11:05am on 05/16/2006
Gene,
I don’t believe its guilt… nor is it porn. Rather, I think that like their western liberal brethren, the Islamists are trapped in an outdated, dysfunctional ideology, and the frustration we see manifested by both groups is borne of envy.
In both instances, history has passed them by, abandoning them for more verdant intellectual pastures and a more productive, freer social order.
Both traditional Islamism and traditional liberalism are basically autocracies. And though they each worship at the feet of different gods, the result is still the same: oppression.
Meanwhile, for all our problems, the most pressing today appears to be that there are far, far more people who would rather be here than anywhere else, and will do almost anything to get here. Nowhere else on this planet is vexed with such a dilemna… despite the incessant carping of those on the left. Helluva problem, isn’t it?
Bat One - 12:05pm on 05/16/2006
So, when we see the muslims waving signs about the great satan, what ARE they doing at home in the dark that makes them feel so guilty they rail against it all the way they do?
**********
My husband told me that someone he knows who works in the hotel industry says that whenever they have a convention of preachers/religious leaders, the demand for porn goes way up.
Not Muslim religious leaders, mind you.
As for the signs, I’ve seen them being held in other religious hands than Muslims.
When Muslims kill between 30K and 100K people in America, as we are responsible for in Iraq, I will worry about Islam being an violent religion.
In Iraq, some of those guys with the guys on ‘our side’ have their church services and then go out and take innocent lives.
Judge not....
Your cause may NOT be the righteous one in God’s eyes. But you will find out if it was, that’s for sure, if (or if you don’t) believe in an afterlife.
diane - 10:05pm on 05/16/2006
"Judge not....” You might want to take your own advice there. You seem to do a lot of self-righteous judging on this blog.
A friend once told me that we didn’t have to invade the middle east to make changes, all we had to do was drop a bunch of porn and dvd players and the government would be overthrown on its own and so much cheaper without bloodshed. Hm… wonder if we should try it in Iran.
This isn’t an antiwar thread.
I see Puzzle’s point, though. I recently did a post called “Is Porn Good For Islam?”
I’m not sure that porn, specifically, would be a good thing to drop on these people...but certainly the more exposure they get to western culture the more they’re going to want the western-style freedoms that are at the heart of it.
This article, and Puzzle’s glib comment, are both worth remembering the next time some Congressional Pooh-Bah, of either party, decides on our behalf that the internet needs regulating… and taxing too.
R108, lighten up, it wasn’t meant to be antiwar, it was meant to show that porn could destabilize a muslim country since they are accessing the web for porn. You are so quick to attack. If you don’t like what I write, ignore it. And besides I;ll be waiting for the same comment from you to Bat One Bat One for bringing up taxing the internet. I guess I’ll wait until hell freezes over for that from you.
I’m going to go all biblical on you. Ja’ver notice when someone is really deep in some sin or another and feeling guilty how judgemental they all get? I remember when Jimmy Swaggart was seeing whores for nude dances how he railed against porn and immoratlity and such just before he was caught.
So, when we see the muslims waving signs about the great satan, what ARE they doing at home in the dark that makes them feel so guilty they rail against it all the way they do?
King David was going to beat the heck out of a guy for stealing a sheep till he learned from the prophet it was all about him. David had slept with Bathsheba, knocked her up and killed her husband to hide the evidence. Indignity sometimes reveals guilt.
So WHY DO the muslims riot so readily. Could XXX websites have ANYTHING to do with that?
Just asking.
Actually I had heard that contrary to what you hear in the press that homosexuality was a “problem” in muslim countries. I did find an interesting link about why Islamic societies are dysfunctional.
Gene,
I don’t believe its guilt… nor is it porn. Rather, I think that like their western liberal brethren, the Islamists are trapped in an outdated, dysfunctional ideology, and the frustration we see manifested by both groups is borne of envy.
In both instances, history has passed them by, abandoning them for more verdant intellectual pastures and a more productive, freer social order.
Both traditional Islamism and traditional liberalism are basically autocracies. And though they each worship at the feet of different gods, the result is still the same: oppression.
Meanwhile, for all our problems, the most pressing today appears to be that there are far, far more people who would rather be here than anywhere else, and will do almost anything to get here. Nowhere else on this planet is vexed with such a dilemna… despite the incessant carping of those on the left. Helluva problem, isn’t it?
So, when we see the muslims waving signs about the great satan, what ARE they doing at home in the dark that makes them feel so guilty they rail against it all the way they do?
**********
My husband told me that someone he knows who works in the hotel industry says that whenever they have a convention of preachers/religious leaders, the demand for porn goes way up.
Not Muslim religious leaders, mind you.
As for the signs, I’ve seen them being held in other religious hands than Muslims.
When Muslims kill between 30K and 100K people in America, as we are responsible for in Iraq, I will worry about Islam being an violent religion.
In Iraq, some of those guys with the guys on ‘our side’ have their church services and then go out and take innocent lives.
Judge not....
Your cause may NOT be the righteous one in God’s eyes. But you will find out if it was, that’s for sure, if (or if you don’t) believe in an afterlife.
"Judge not....” You might want to take your own advice there. You seem to do a lot of self-righteous judging on this blog.