“You stingy scrooge you. “....I’m not stingy, I simply feel that money, particularly money not ones own, should not be squandered on fabricated, fraudulent causes. The AGW “crisis” is fabricated and fraudulent at least. But, then, if the un is involved, fraud and fabrication are certain to be at the foundation of the concern.
Edward Lunny - 11:05am on 05/17/2008
I’m a little disheartened to see that the most popular answer so far is “I’ll support any stupidity to keep Obama out of office.”
Not sure where you got that as I don’t know of anybody including myself that suggested that. Come November, we have to make the choice of which candidate gets our vote (of course you don’t have to vote), McCain or Obama. What I think you are misinterpreted is that some of us have already made that choice. Somehow you have turn this decision on its ear saying that it implies total support for NcCain which is clearly does not.
docdave - 12:05pm on 05/17/2008
My aplogies Dogman…
Anna - 03:05pm on 05/17/2008
*apologies
Anna - 03:05pm on 05/17/2008
Rob, I am giving you credit for this post just to be annoying.
Thank you and for the record, I took the third way and selected Answer 5.
Carrick - 08:05pm on 05/17/2008
Grrr:
The Whistler - 08:05pm on 05/17/2008
Gasoline, electricity and natural gas prices should have (at least) doubled within the next 22 years anyway, it’s called “inflation”. Duh!
Even if it means an equivalent doubling based on the percentage of your bills dedicated to them, if the worst you can expect is a doubling of prices in twenty two years, then he really should have your vote. We can expect the world’s population to have increased by about a third by 2030, leading to increased pressure on available resources - even if further large oil and gas fields are found.
ManofFireandLight - 08:05am on 05/18/2008
Duh, that means it doubles compared to doing nothing.
So that would be in addition to the normal inflationary pressures.
Are you really claiming we can do all of this stuff for no cost at all? How would we do that? Do you have any idea where you’d start.
Grow up. Magical thinking that things will just happen because you want it to happen is infantile.
The Whistler - 08:05am on 05/18/2008
I did not at any point suggest that it would be achieved at no cost.
However, I do have plenty of ideas where to start, like governmental incentivisation of small/ local scale heat and/or power generation; energy efficiency drives; encouraging manufacturers to make more efficient household appliances (with less built in breakability); more research into and development of viable biofuels; more research into and development of solar/tidal/wind/hydro/hydrothermal.
McCain’s plans and the repercussions of their introduction are (most probably) based on current usage and demand levels. There is no real way to know what the economic markets will be like in two years, let alone twenty two. Current economic models are less reliable than those for CC.
“You stingy scrooge you. “....I’m not stingy, I simply feel that money, particularly money not ones own, should not be squandered on fabricated, fraudulent causes. The AGW “crisis” is fabricated and fraudulent at least. But, then, if the un is involved, fraud and fabrication are certain to be at the foundation of the concern.
Not sure where you got that as I don’t know of anybody including myself that suggested that. Come November, we have to make the choice of which candidate gets our vote (of course you don’t have to vote), McCain or Obama. What I think you are misinterpreted is that some of us have already made that choice. Somehow you have turn this decision on its ear saying that it implies total support for NcCain which is clearly does not.
My aplogies Dogman…
*apologies
Rob, I am giving you credit for this post just to be annoying.
Thank you and for the record, I took the third way and selected Answer 5.
Grrr:
Gasoline, electricity and natural gas prices should have (at least) doubled within the next 22 years anyway, it’s called “inflation”. Duh!
Even if it means an equivalent doubling based on the percentage of your bills dedicated to them, if the worst you can expect is a doubling of prices in twenty two years, then he really should have your vote. We can expect the world’s population to have increased by about a third by 2030, leading to increased pressure on available resources - even if further large oil and gas fields are found.
Duh, that means it doubles compared to doing nothing.
So that would be in addition to the normal inflationary pressures.
Are you really claiming we can do all of this stuff for no cost at all? How would we do that? Do you have any idea where you’d start.
Grow up. Magical thinking that things will just happen because you want it to happen is infantile.
I did not at any point suggest that it would be achieved at no cost.
However, I do have plenty of ideas where to start, like governmental incentivisation of small/ local scale heat and/or power generation; energy efficiency drives; encouraging manufacturers to make more efficient household appliances (with less built in breakability); more research into and development of viable biofuels; more research into and development of solar/tidal/wind/hydro/hydrothermal.
McCain’s plans and the repercussions of their introduction are (most probably) based on current usage and demand levels. There is no real way to know what the economic markets will be like in two years, let alone twenty two. Current economic models are less reliable than those for CC.