God, Rob, depression and PSTD are considered mental illnesses. You are trying to minimize the medical conditions of these soldiers. You wouldn’t be saying the same thing if the soldier had a “physical” injury, like a gunshot or an amputation, that’s for sure.
Feeling “a little depressed” or “stressed”? That’s what you call it. Ask these soldiers if they are a “little depressed” or “stressed”? They are mental problems and they will need extensive treatment.
This is why mental illness is still stigmatized today. Because you think these guys are just “a little depressed” Go back and read what happened to these guys at Walter Reed. It is hardly surprising that these soldiers are being diagnosed with mental illness. It is people like you who are stigmatizing them by failing to recognize the very real medical conditions they guys have.
Shame oh you, Rob.
Puzzlefeet - 07:04pm on 04/17/2008
puzz? That is the same ratio as when I left US Army in 1985. What is your point? That ALL members of the military are mentally unhinged? Or just the ones that don’t vote for Democrats?
2Hotel9 - 07:04pm on 04/17/2008
Neither, 2h9. My point was that depression and PSTD are mental illnesses. To minimize the health conditions of our returning soldiers makes it much more difficult for their adjustment back into civilian life.
The stigma of a mental illness needs to stop. They returning soldiers need medical treatment. Rob was definitely attempting to minimize the medical conditions of these soldiers as being ‘a little depressed or stressed”.
And no not all returning members are “mentally unhinged” but it is clear that you and Rob still believe that mental illness is a stigma and not a medical condition that needs to be treated. Our returning soldiers need better treatment in this area not being stigamatized by you and Rob.
Puzzlefeet - 07:04pm on 04/17/2008
Hmmm, I believe Americans generally over-diagnose in the first place…
However, I think Marines and their lives are prone to depression and mental illnesses. This is because they serve hard in the military and come home to a bleak life, of which they had no time to maintain. Both worlds sort of drain them.
I heard of a guy that accidentally killed Iraq civilians. 1 month after his tour, he killed himself.
dirl126 - 07:04pm on 04/17/2008
No, puzz. Your point is you want to gain control over the lives of as many soldiers as you can, thus making you oh, so important. The ratio has remained static for 23 years. Pray tell, what could this mean?
2Hotel9 - 07:04pm on 04/17/2008
No, as I wrote before it is you and Rob, that are trying to stigamitize these returning soldiers who are in need of extensive medical treatment for their mental illnesses. You and Rob think that it is a sign of weakness if a soldier is depressed and has PSTD. That is the dirty little secret that somehow a gunshot wound or an amputation is a sign of heroics but depression and PSTD is a sign of weakness.
That is what I meant and that is what I said. That you don’t get it 2h9 is neither here nor there.
Puzzlefeet - 07:04pm on 04/17/2008
And to preempt your further stupidity, I have dealt with it ever since.
It ain’t the bang or boom. It is the flash. You never hear it. You see it. And it matters not that your mind tells your body"no danger”, the body remembers.
2Hotel9 - 07:04pm on 04/17/2008
If I experienced what our soldiers do and came back here and heard all the whining by the slackers, I’d go nuts, too!
Kevin - 07:04pm on 04/17/2008
This is a disgusting post.
It just shows you are all about the mission and give a shit about the troops.
“Go fight for the country, but when you come back make sure you don’t dare ask for medical care.”
Only a cowardly little shit could write this post.
Lestat - 08:04pm on 04/17/2008
1 in 5 people you meet on the street may also have depression and exibit stress related symptoms. A recent radio news program mentioned that psychologists are now treating people for axiety attacks related to global warming fears. I have no doubt that 1 in 5 are nuts because there are alot of Democrats out there.
God, Rob, depression and PSTD are considered mental illnesses. You are trying to minimize the medical conditions of these soldiers. You wouldn’t be saying the same thing if the soldier had a “physical” injury, like a gunshot or an amputation, that’s for sure.
Feeling “a little depressed” or “stressed”? That’s what you call it. Ask these soldiers if they are a “little depressed” or “stressed”? They are mental problems and they will need extensive treatment.
This is why mental illness is still stigmatized today. Because you think these guys are just “a little depressed” Go back and read what happened to these guys at Walter Reed. It is hardly surprising that these soldiers are being diagnosed with mental illness. It is people like you who are stigmatizing them by failing to recognize the very real medical conditions they guys have.
Shame oh you, Rob.
puzz? That is the same ratio as when I left US Army in 1985. What is your point? That ALL members of the military are mentally unhinged? Or just the ones that don’t vote for Democrats?
Neither, 2h9. My point was that depression and PSTD are mental illnesses. To minimize the health conditions of our returning soldiers makes it much more difficult for their adjustment back into civilian life.
The stigma of a mental illness needs to stop. They returning soldiers need medical treatment. Rob was definitely attempting to minimize the medical conditions of these soldiers as being ‘a little depressed or stressed”.
And no not all returning members are “mentally unhinged” but it is clear that you and Rob still believe that mental illness is a stigma and not a medical condition that needs to be treated. Our returning soldiers need better treatment in this area not being stigamatized by you and Rob.
Hmmm, I believe Americans generally over-diagnose in the first place…
However, I think Marines and their lives are prone to depression and mental illnesses. This is because they serve hard in the military and come home to a bleak life, of which they had no time to maintain. Both worlds sort of drain them.
I heard of a guy that accidentally killed Iraq civilians. 1 month after his tour, he killed himself.
No, puzz. Your point is you want to gain control over the lives of as many soldiers as you can, thus making you oh, so important. The ratio has remained static for 23 years. Pray tell, what could this mean?
No, as I wrote before it is you and Rob, that are trying to stigamitize these returning soldiers who are in need of extensive medical treatment for their mental illnesses. You and Rob think that it is a sign of weakness if a soldier is depressed and has PSTD. That is the dirty little secret that somehow a gunshot wound or an amputation is a sign of heroics but depression and PSTD is a sign of weakness.
That is what I meant and that is what I said. That you don’t get it 2h9 is neither here nor there.
And to preempt your further stupidity, I have dealt with it ever since.
It ain’t the bang or boom. It is the flash. You never hear it. You see it. And it matters not that your mind tells your body"no danger”, the body remembers.
If I experienced what our soldiers do and came back here and heard all the whining by the slackers, I’d go nuts, too!
This is a disgusting post.
It just shows you are all about the mission and give a shit about the troops.
“Go fight for the country, but when you come back make sure you don’t dare ask for medical care.”
Only a cowardly little shit could write this post.
1 in 5 people you meet on the street may also have depression and exibit stress related symptoms. A recent radio news program mentioned that psychologists are now treating people for axiety attacks related to global warming fears. I have no doubt that 1 in 5 are nuts because there are alot of Democrats out there.