"This is a kind of moral terrorism that destroys the way of the life of the nation in a systematic and long-term way"
Was this plagiarized from a Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell or James Dobson communiqué? With outstanding Americans like Brian Doyle and Frank Figueroa making headlines, now might not be the right time to defend girlie mags.
Nice jingo job though. I will remember this when “We are a Christian nation” comes up again.
realitybasedbob - 07:04am on 04/07/2006
Realityboob, I’m no Christian. Not sure what gave you that idea.
Rob - 07:04am on 04/07/2006
This is a kind of moral terrorism that destroys the way of the life of the nation in a systematic and long-term way
I can only assume that by comparison, this implies somehow that the "way of life" in Indonesia is superior to many other modern countries, let’s just use the US as an example. Porn is pretty prevalent in the US, access to it is unfettered for nearly anyone of legal age.
I would defy ANYONE to give examples of how the Indonesian "way of life" is superior to the US - and I mean everyone in the US. Certainly there are decadent lifestyles that are less deisirable than likely some pious lifestyles in Indonesia. The fact, however, that there are equally pious individuals in the US tells me that the availability of porn is a choice and not something that destroys ways of life. I would suggest that whoever in Indonesia is ripe for mass consumption of porn is probably not leading a particularly admirable way of life at the current time.
Sherard - 09:04am on 04/07/2006
Yes, totalitarian regimes are so much more moral than free people making free choices.
robert108 - 09:04am on 04/07/2006
Somehow I expected it to be a gal in a burqa with the garment lifted just enough to show a bit of ankle.....
Robert Perry - 09:04am on 04/07/2006
Sherard,
Some anti-porn activists in the U.S. are trying to undertake studies which demonstrate the mental and physical harm of porn as a means to legislate against it.
Epicurus - 09:04am on 04/07/2006
You read that correctly. Islamic zealots actually think that pictures of women in their panties are worse than terrorism.
Good thing our western leaders have a much more reasonable view of the world.
"I rise to discuss probably the most important issue this body or I have ever debated on the floor of the Senate since I have been a member, 6 years. Our nation faces a potential disaster."
Dave - 10:04am on 04/07/2006
Well, if you want to discuss detrimental effects, tell me what has happened to the divorce rate, crime rate, drug use rate, and so on since 1953, when Hugh Hefner started publishing Playboy. It’s certainly not the only factor, but certainly the rise of soft core and other pornography has not been accompanied by societal changes that we’d see as favorable, no?
I’m not a defender of Islam by any means, but they may just have a point here.
Robert Perry - 10:04am on 04/07/2006
Well, if you want to discuss detrimental effects, tell me what has happened to the divorce rate, crime rate, drug use rate, and so on since 1953, when Hugh Hefner started publishing Playboy.
On the other hand, since 1953 we’ve started letting blacks and whites to go the same school together.
Plus, our crime rate has been rapidly declining over the past 15 years--the past 15 years, the time at which the internet pornography business took off.
Dave - 10:04am on 04/07/2006
I’m not a defender of Islam by any means, but they may just have a point here.
They may have a point, but isn’t the real issue here whether or not people should be free to destroy their own society?
Was this plagiarized from a Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell or James Dobson communiqué?With outstanding Americans like Brian Doyle and Frank Figueroa making headlines, now might not be the right time to defend girlie mags.
Nice jingo job though. I will remember this when “We are a Christian nation” comes up again.Realityboob, I’m no Christian. Not sure what gave you that idea.
I can only assume that by comparison, this implies somehow that the "way of life" in Indonesia is superior to many other modern countries, let’s just use the US as an example. Porn is pretty prevalent in the US, access to it is unfettered for nearly anyone of legal age.
I would defy ANYONE to give examples of how the Indonesian "way of life" is superior to the US - and I mean everyone in the US. Certainly there are decadent lifestyles that are less deisirable than likely some pious lifestyles in Indonesia. The fact, however, that there are equally pious individuals in the US tells me that the availability of porn is a choice and not something that destroys ways of life. I would suggest that whoever in Indonesia is ripe for mass consumption of porn is probably not leading a particularly admirable way of life at the current time.
Yes, totalitarian regimes are so much more moral than free people making free choices.
Somehow I expected it to be a gal in a burqa with the garment lifted just enough to show a bit of ankle.....
Sherard,
Some anti-porn activists in the U.S. are trying to undertake studies which demonstrate the mental and physical harm of porn as a means to legislate against it.
Good thing our western leaders have a much more reasonable view of the world.
Senator Jim Bunning on gay marriage:
Well, if you want to discuss detrimental effects, tell me what has happened to the divorce rate, crime rate, drug use rate, and so on since 1953, when Hugh Hefner started publishing Playboy. It’s certainly not the only factor, but certainly the rise of soft core and other pornography has not been accompanied by societal changes that we’d see as favorable, no?
I’m not a defender of Islam by any means, but they may just have a point here.
On the other hand, since 1953 we’ve started letting blacks and whites to go the same school together.
Plus, our crime rate has been rapidly declining over the past 15 years--the past 15 years, the time at which the internet pornography business took off.
I’m not a defender of Islam by any means, but they may just have a point here.
They may have a point, but isn’t the real issue here whether or not people should be free to destroy their own society?