10 Trillion that is a lot of money. Yikes. Of course none of us have seen actual proof.
goon - 06:02am on 02/26/2008
I not sure you read her comment correctly. It appears to read as a 10 year war costing a $1 trillion dollars. She’s still wrong.
SJPhoto67 - 06:02am on 02/26/2008
First, it’s worth noting that nobody wants the war in Iraq to go on forever.
These people do---and the Bush administration is their accomplice.
It’s just that some of us want them to come home victorious.
Define “victory.” Because if you’re looking to turn Iraq into a Jefferson democracy...well, that is never gonna happen. Ergo, the GOP wants to be in Iraq PERMANENTLY.
Only President Obama will end our colonial adventure.
Jack - 06:02am on 02/26/2008
Sj I think your right but that still doesn’t seem right as well…
goon - 06:02am on 02/26/2008
It’s Pelosi talking about one of the many things she knows naught of. Kind of reminds me of Jack…
Rodney Graves - 07:02am on 02/26/2008
She never said “$10 trillion”. She said “10 year”.
Does “victory” include undoing the ethnic cleansing of Baghdad neighborhoods?
jimmy - 08:02am on 02/26/2008
Sometimes victory is knowing when you have done all you can do and it’s up to the people or country you are trying to help to take the reins and lead thier own country.Although Vietnam was not considered victorious,the country and people have made the best of what they have.Not everyone wants the American life as some presume.We must accept the differences of the world and try to lead by example.
groetzinger - 08:02am on 02/26/2008
Of course Pelosi got this wrong. If we only we could stop this horrible war (eyes rolling) we could give everyone ponies and free health car. What a crock.
dougee - 10:02am on 02/26/2008
A new contributor under the alias of groetzinger informs us:
Although Vietnam was not considered victorious, the country and people have made the best of what they have.
Oh my.
I’ve seen a lot of ignorance on display over the years when it comes to the late unpleasantness in Southeast Asia. Given the sad state of higher education in general, history specifically, and military history in particular, this is no great surprise. Our own soi disant military experts have demonstrated this repeatedly, after all.
But really.
The insurgency in South Vietnam effectively ended with the obliteration of the Vietcong during the Tet offensive. Far from being a triumph of Vietcong arms, Tet was their death knell. General Giap would later write that he had moved to soon and that the only victory he could claim from the otherwise disastrous offensive was a propaganda victory.
South Vietnam did not fall to insurgency.
South Vietnam was conquered by a conventional invasion (the second such, the first having been beaten back with American assistance) with conventional forces from the North. That defeat too was avoidable, but the Congress of the United States prevented the President from fulfilling our treaty obligations to support and help defend South Vietnam.
Rodney Graves - 10:02am on 02/26/2008
I not sure you read her comment correctly. It appears to read as a 10 year war costing a $1 trillion dollars. She’s still wrong.
Agree. I didn’t think the cost was approaching $1T, but then again, we are barely 5 years into it.
I am not sure how she projects that the war will last another 5 years and cost another $500B though. I figure it will last until around the third week in January when we immediately withdraw all troops, raise the white flag, and hold meetings with Iran, Syria, and Al Qaeda to figure out how they are gonna divy the place up.
10 Trillion that is a lot of money. Yikes. Of course none of us have seen actual proof.
I not sure you read her comment correctly. It appears to read as a 10 year war costing a $1 trillion dollars. She’s still wrong.
These people do---and the Bush administration is their accomplice.
Define “victory.” Because if you’re looking to turn Iraq into a Jefferson democracy...well, that is never gonna happen. Ergo, the GOP wants to be in Iraq PERMANENTLY.
Only President Obama will end our colonial adventure.
Sj I think your right but that still doesn’t seem right as well…
It’s Pelosi talking about one of the many things she knows naught of. Kind of reminds me of Jack…
She never said “$10 trillion”. She said “10 year”.
Does “victory” include undoing the ethnic cleansing of Baghdad neighborhoods?
Sometimes victory is knowing when you have done all you can do and it’s up to the people or country you are trying to help to take the reins and lead thier own country.Although Vietnam was not considered victorious,the country and people have made the best of what they have.Not everyone wants the American life as some presume.We must accept the differences of the world and try to lead by example.
Of course Pelosi got this wrong. If we only we could stop this horrible war (eyes rolling) we could give everyone ponies and free health car. What a crock.
A new contributor under the alias of groetzinger informs us:
Oh my.
I’ve seen a lot of ignorance on display over the years when it comes to the late unpleasantness in Southeast Asia. Given the sad state of higher education in general, history specifically, and military history in particular, this is no great surprise. Our own soi disant military experts have demonstrated this repeatedly, after all.
But really.
The insurgency in South Vietnam effectively ended with the obliteration of the Vietcong during the Tet offensive. Far from being a triumph of Vietcong arms, Tet was their death knell. General Giap would later write that he had moved to soon and that the only victory he could claim from the otherwise disastrous offensive was a propaganda victory.
South Vietnam did not fall to insurgency.
South Vietnam was conquered by a conventional invasion (the second such, the first having been beaten back with American assistance) with conventional forces from the North. That defeat too was avoidable, but the Congress of the United States prevented the President from fulfilling our treaty obligations to support and help defend South Vietnam.
Agree. I didn’t think the cost was approaching $1T, but then again, we are barely 5 years into it.
I am not sure how she projects that the war will last another 5 years and cost another $500B though. I figure it will last until around the third week in January when we immediately withdraw all troops, raise the white flag, and hold meetings with Iran, Syria, and Al Qaeda to figure out how they are gonna divy the place up.