The average Australian citizen spends only half as much on medical care as a US citizen (go check the stats. if you don’t believe me), yet every single one is entitled to treatment (eventually). So what is the argument in favor of the current shitty health system? `Socialized’ medicine sounds better to me. The public health system isn’t required to make a profit, hence cheaper.
Anarchist Vegetarian - 05:01am on 01/08/2007
You are a fucking retard.
2Hotel9 - 05:01am on 01/08/2007
You are a fucking retard.--2Hotel9
Nice rebuttal. Must have taken you ages to come up with. Can I assume that is the official conservative line?
Anarchist Vegetarian - 05:01am on 01/08/2007
...thousands of people were on waiting lists… (for surgery)
AV: What good is paying 1/2 price for something you can’t get? If that sounds like a good deal to you, I have a PlayStation3 I can sell you for $50! (I just can’t promise it will be delivered in your lifetime!)
Proof - 06:01am on 01/08/2007
Naw. Your retard-ness just leaped right out there for all to see. You really should work on masking that, so people will 1. Stop laughing at you, and 2. actually care what you have to say. Just a suggestion.
2Hotel9 - 07:01am on 01/08/2007
Comrade Vegetable
If socialized medicine is so great then why do 75% of Canadian doctors have personal health insurance?
Why have French doctors gone on stike for better wages, twice?
And how can anyone stomach vegemite? (gak)
Mickey - 07:01am on 01/08/2007
Guys, the advocates of Socialized Medicine are ‘true believers’. It doesn’t matter how much evidence is shown to them, that socalized medicine doesn’t meet the needs of the consumer, they will still believe in it. They have faith in it as an ideal. Instead of critically thinking and using reason to examine their previous assumptions, they continue to hold on to their emotionally based ideal.
They are worried, that if they admit they are wrong, they will no longer be able to claim intellectual superiority over the rest of us. Their own arrogance and narcissism will not allow them to admit that they have believed in a lie.
If they do come to the realization that they have been bamboozled, I will not fault them, but welcome them to reality. Believe me, I once believed in the ‘Big Lie’. I got over myself. I realized that not everyone shares my values, and it would be wrong for me to impose them on others. Socialism, is simply the impostion, through government force, of a particular set of values. No-one has the right to force their values on others, no matter how noble they may seem. To do so, is immoral.
Sluggo - 08:01am on 01/08/2007
I keep telling y’all, Socialism/Marxism is a religion. A religion of misery,suffering and death. All are equal when dead.
2Hotel9 - 09:01am on 01/08/2007
I had surgery last April and it was two months between when I saw the Doctor to talk about the surgery to when I had the surgery. And it was only that long because my Doctor was busy and that was his first opening. I could have gone in probably the next day if there was an opening.
Now, the hospital I had the surgery at was Fairview Southdale (Twin Cities) and at the time, they were remodeling all of their OR’s. The reason for it was that they wanted them all the same so there’d be a minimal problem scheduling surgeries. (At the time, some surgeries could only be performed in certain OR’s.) Once they’re done, a Doctor will just need make certain there’s an open OR, not that a specific one that he might need will be open.
All this in a response to market conditions. If it was gov’t run, it’d likely be a disaster.
GregB999 - 10:01am on 01/08/2007
The public health system isn’t required to make a profit, hence cheaper.
This is just economic ignorance. The need to make a profit results in cost control. Duh. Why do you think that computers get better and cheaper every year? Hint: it isn’t because of any govt interference in the computer market. The search for profit brings the greatest good to the greatest number, and produces the best product for the money.
The average Australian citizen spends only half as much on medical care as a US citizen (go check the stats. if you don’t believe me), yet every single one is entitled to treatment (eventually). So what is the argument in favor of the current shitty health system? `Socialized’ medicine sounds better to me. The public health system isn’t required to make a profit, hence cheaper.
You are a fucking retard.
Nice rebuttal. Must have taken you ages to come up with. Can I assume that is the official conservative line?
AV: What good is paying 1/2 price for something you can’t get? If that sounds like a good deal to you, I have a PlayStation3 I can sell you for $50! (I just can’t promise it will be delivered in your lifetime!)
Naw. Your retard-ness just leaped right out there for all to see. You really should work on masking that, so people will 1. Stop laughing at you, and 2. actually care what you have to say. Just a suggestion.
Comrade Vegetable
If socialized medicine is so great then why do 75% of Canadian doctors have personal health insurance?
Why have French doctors gone on stike for better wages, twice?
And how can anyone stomach vegemite? (gak)
Guys, the advocates of Socialized Medicine are ‘true believers’. It doesn’t matter how much evidence is shown to them, that socalized medicine doesn’t meet the needs of the consumer, they will still believe in it. They have faith in it as an ideal. Instead of critically thinking and using reason to examine their previous assumptions, they continue to hold on to their emotionally based ideal.
They are worried, that if they admit they are wrong, they will no longer be able to claim intellectual superiority over the rest of us. Their own arrogance and narcissism will not allow them to admit that they have believed in a lie.
If they do come to the realization that they have been bamboozled, I will not fault them, but welcome them to reality. Believe me, I once believed in the ‘Big Lie’. I got over myself. I realized that not everyone shares my values, and it would be wrong for me to impose them on others. Socialism, is simply the impostion, through government force, of a particular set of values. No-one has the right to force their values on others, no matter how noble they may seem. To do so, is immoral.
I keep telling y’all, Socialism/Marxism is a religion. A religion of misery,suffering and death. All are equal when dead.
I had surgery last April and it was two months between when I saw the Doctor to talk about the surgery to when I had the surgery. And it was only that long because my Doctor was busy and that was his first opening. I could have gone in probably the next day if there was an opening.
Now, the hospital I had the surgery at was Fairview Southdale (Twin Cities) and at the time, they were remodeling all of their OR’s. The reason for it was that they wanted them all the same so there’d be a minimal problem scheduling surgeries. (At the time, some surgeries could only be performed in certain OR’s.) Once they’re done, a Doctor will just need make certain there’s an open OR, not that a specific one that he might need will be open.
All this in a response to market conditions. If it was gov’t run, it’d likely be a disaster.
This is just economic ignorance. The need to make a profit results in cost control. Duh. Why do you think that computers get better and cheaper every year? Hint: it isn’t because of any govt interference in the computer market. The search for profit brings the greatest good to the greatest number, and produces the best product for the money.