You, sir, are no patriot, you are a blog dictator. You are precisely doing what you claim to abhor.
Puzzlefeet - 04:07pm on 07/02/2006
diane says, No one who censors others freedom of speech has any business talking about love of country or devotion to country.
They’re not connected at all.
Unless you’re saying that the hundreds of spam comments we get here at this blog daily should be posted and if they aren’t, we have no business proclaiming love of country. After all,..we censor those spam comments out.
In any regard, you have freedom of speech. What you don’t have is absolute freedom of speech at someone else’s personal property. To speak here is a privilege.
Puzzlefeet says, You, sir, are no patriot, you are a blog dictator. You are precisely doing what you claim to abhor.
Oh good grief. Again - they are not connected. This blog is personal property and you are a guest here. Nothing more, nothing less.
likwidshoe - 04:07pm on 07/02/2006
Wouldn’t it be terrible if these guys set up their OWN blogs and talked among themselves.
Then if they get censored they’ve got a complaint.
Bunch of whiners if you ask me. (Not that anyone would).
The Whistler - 04:07pm on 07/02/2006
This isn’t Rodney’s blog, but leave it to you righties to defend the indefensible.
Puzzlefeet - 04:07pm on 07/02/2006
diane said, As I understood it, we are all just posters here except Rob. Did I misunderstand?
Now you’re getting closer to the truth. You and everybody else here is just a poster. In other words, we are guests in Rob’s “home” and hence have no absolute freedom of speech.
Puzzlefeet said, This isn’t Rodney’s blog, but leave it to you righties to defend the indefensible.
Heh. Whatever. Funny considering that I turned the comments back on. Also funny considering that this blog is personal property and there is nothing “indefensible” about upholding personal property rights.
likwidshoe - 04:07pm on 07/02/2006
diane gets it, It would follow, then, that only Rob has the right to govern what is said in his ‘home’.
Not a houseguest.
True that. You nailed it.
He has, however, given a couple of us limited rights and trusts us to make the distinction. This mostly comes into play for spam though and other shit that we would rather not deal with. (Seriously - if I never have to see another spam ad for some illicit prescriptions or some truely sick porn, I’d enjoy the blog a bit more.)
likwidshoe - 04:07pm on 07/02/2006
Come on, gang, you know full well the 1st amendmant gives Dhimi diane the right to plagarize anyone’s intellectual property and if you try to stop it you are a mean, evil, nasty boogerhead. And now to the topic, nice piece Rodney. I hope you don’t mind me printing 20 or 30 copies and passing them around. Got a rifle shoot on the 4th and several people there will appreciate it. And don’t be surprised if some turn up in Company Orderly and Rec Rooms in Afghanistan,Iraq, and northern Central Africa. And yes, Dhimi and puzzle, they will be fully credited to the author. That being the obverse of the coin that is Freedom of Speech.
TwoHotel9 - 04:07pm on 07/02/2006
So Lik, Rodney didn’t turn the comments back on, you did. Thank you for doing that, it is greatly appreciated.
I do find it interesting that Rodney writes the following: “The unstated underpinning here is that a patriot, while recognizing a wrong on the part of his beloved nation, works to convince his fellow citizens of that error and to correct it.” I don’t believe that I have heard one “leftie” or “democrat” express hatred for this country. I certainly have heard those same “lefties” and “democrats” “recognizing a wrong” and working “ to convince his fellow citizens of that error and to correct it.”
I have to wonder who the true patriots are.
Puzzlefeet - 05:07pm on 07/02/2006
Puzzlefeet:
So Lik, Rodney didn’t turn the comments back on, you did. Thank you for doing that, it is greatly appreciated.
Did I miss some excitement? I’ve been in the field this weeken.
Carrick - 05:07pm on 07/02/2006
Interesting post Rodney. I suppose it all comes down to what comprises the “country”...slavish devotion to the government in power wouldn’t constitute patriotism in my book. It’s a complicated thing actually...full of nuance...it’s making me think anyway which means you’re doing your job. Well done.
You, sir, are no patriot, you are a blog dictator. You are precisely doing what you claim to abhor.
diane says, No one who censors others freedom of speech has any business talking about love of country or devotion to country.
They’re not connected at all.
Unless you’re saying that the hundreds of spam comments we get here at this blog daily should be posted and if they aren’t, we have no business proclaiming love of country. After all,..we censor those spam comments out.
In any regard, you have freedom of speech. What you don’t have is absolute freedom of speech at someone else’s personal property. To speak here is a privilege.
Puzzlefeet says, You, sir, are no patriot, you are a blog dictator. You are precisely doing what you claim to abhor.
Oh good grief. Again - they are not connected. This blog is personal property and you are a guest here. Nothing more, nothing less.
Wouldn’t it be terrible if these guys set up their OWN blogs and talked among themselves.
Then if they get censored they’ve got a complaint.
Bunch of whiners if you ask me. (Not that anyone would).
This isn’t Rodney’s blog, but leave it to you righties to defend the indefensible.
diane said, As I understood it, we are all just posters here except Rob. Did I misunderstand?
Now you’re getting closer to the truth. You and everybody else here is just a poster. In other words, we are guests in Rob’s “home” and hence have no absolute freedom of speech.
Puzzlefeet said, This isn’t Rodney’s blog, but leave it to you righties to defend the indefensible.
Heh. Whatever. Funny considering that I turned the comments back on. Also funny considering that this blog is personal property and there is nothing “indefensible” about upholding personal property rights.
diane gets it, It would follow, then, that only Rob has the right to govern what is said in his ‘home’.
Not a houseguest.
True that. You nailed it.
He has, however, given a couple of us limited rights and trusts us to make the distinction. This mostly comes into play for spam though and other shit that we would rather not deal with. (Seriously - if I never have to see another spam ad for some illicit prescriptions or some truely sick porn, I’d enjoy the blog a bit more.)
Come on, gang, you know full well the 1st amendmant gives Dhimi diane the right to plagarize anyone’s intellectual property and if you try to stop it you are a mean, evil, nasty boogerhead. And now to the topic, nice piece Rodney. I hope you don’t mind me printing 20 or 30 copies and passing them around. Got a rifle shoot on the 4th and several people there will appreciate it. And don’t be surprised if some turn up in Company Orderly and Rec Rooms in Afghanistan,Iraq, and northern Central Africa. And yes, Dhimi and puzzle, they will be fully credited to the author. That being the obverse of the coin that is Freedom of Speech.
So Lik, Rodney didn’t turn the comments back on, you did. Thank you for doing that, it is greatly appreciated.
I do find it interesting that Rodney writes the following: “The unstated underpinning here is that a patriot, while recognizing a wrong on the part of his beloved nation, works to convince his fellow citizens of that error and to correct it.” I don’t believe that I have heard one “leftie” or “democrat” express hatred for this country. I certainly have heard those same “lefties” and “democrats” “recognizing a wrong” and working “ to convince his fellow citizens of that error and to correct it.”
I have to wonder who the true patriots are.
Puzzlefeet:
Did I miss some excitement? I’ve been in the field this weeken.
Interesting post Rodney. I suppose it all comes down to what comprises the “country”...slavish devotion to the government in power wouldn’t constitute patriotism in my book. It’s a complicated thing actually...full of nuance...it’s making me think anyway which means you’re doing your job. Well done.