Rob,the Bible is the MOST contadictive,un accurate of the three books.The Jews do not beleive in it nor on Jesus and mary.Calling Ishmail a Bastered offspring of Abraham and an Egyptian slave is a one of the made up lies of the Evil Jewish scribes that Jesus so hated and continuasly condemed for their Twisted teachings and doings.They are even mentined in the Bible.
In Abraham`s days Polygami normal(read your scripture).Your mormons REVIVED it and not made it up.It is in the old testamentby the orders of God as he orderd Abraham to marry hajar who was NOT an Egyptian but a Bedouin from the area of UR(IRAQ).SO why would Abraham turn against god and his teachings if it was not accepted by him?.For a reason god made Sara not bore any children till he bore his first by hajar.Another contradiction by the bible is when god orders ABR to destroy the ceteis of Gamora and Sodam because of their SINS which what Abraham is being accused of.
Look at the beloved King David,Jacob,and the notourious SOLOMON,they all beat Mohammed by Far in obtaining more wives than him.Solomon had 700 hundred wives,300 concubines,what they call now HAREM.This is all Propaganda by the Jews who handed it down to Christians.After all Ishmail is not the only victim here,bit also Jesus who was called ILLIGITIMATE son of a union between Mary and a Roman soldeir called Pantera in the Talmud(Jewish religious book): “He was called YESHUA BEN PANTERA”. Also called “RABBI SHIMEON BEN AZZAI= SON OF AN ADULTRESS MARY”
Even thomas`s 105th saying: Jesus said “he who knows the father and the mother will be called SON OF A HARLOT.
In the old test Hajar is called his wife and Ishmail his son,i suppose they forgot to ommit it out.
In the kpran it does say that hose of Isaac(isralites were the chosen people at one time as they were the only beleivers in one God.It also mentions that why do they stay from their true teachings and all the favours that God has given them,yet they still deffy him.All the favours has gone when JESUS came to show them the right way and reform their old religion,but we know what they planned for him,and felt about him.It is in their books.They do not consider him a to be a Prophet and the coming Messiah as muslims do ,let alone the son of God.
The koran confirms jesus`s status and greatness and Mary`s virgin birth as Jesus told his people.
So if you are a jew then you will not be happy,and if you are a christian WAKE UP.
lisa - 02:10pm on 10/06/2006
lisa: There is absolutely no equivalence between current Jewish and Christian behavior and current Islamic terrorist behavior.
robert108 - 02:10pm on 10/06/2006
Rob, is that all you can answer back?.Make up your mind,you either batmouth as you say CURRENT Muslims and stop bringing the koran into it. Are you angry with the Koran of the past,or the muslims??.It seems you choose when to shove it in your arguments.
How far back do you not consider CURRENT? because one day the current events of muslim extremism will be the past/history,and i wonder if your kids will stop mentioning them and pretend they never happened,like you are doing.
The current Christians are doing it under the carpet and if it were not for their Governments and the consiquences they would do what they did ONLY 30 yrs ago.On the other hand the Jews are doing the worst human crimes to defensless people and is what you call STATE TERRORISM.What they are doing is what their zionist past leaders preached and planned and i have the quotes and sourses.
The wheel goes round, first it was the Jews,then christians,and now the Muslims.God knows who will be next,or maybe History will repeat it self.
lisa - 02:10pm on 10/06/2006
lisa: I don’t badmouth the koran; I badmouth the terrorists. Try to pay attention.
How far back do you not consider CURRENT?
In the case of Islam, from the seventh century to today, no real change. For Christianity and Judaism, the last hundred years or so. I hope that some day the horrors of Islamic extremism will be history, but they have shown no sign of relenting, so it’s not so likely right now. All it takes to send them into a murderous rage is a few cartoons, or the sight of a woman’s hair.
Your portrayal of what is going on between the “Palestinians” and the Israelis is completely false. It is the Israelis who are being constantly attacked, and they are simply defending themselves. Anyone who maintains otherwise is seriously deluded.
Christians and Jews are subjected to terrible atrocities by Islamic extremists, like beheading, torture and mutilation and suicide bombing, and yet do not respond in kind. We do not hide behind civilians, and we do not stage phony scenes or retouch photos to manufacture false events; we have plenty of real ones to back up our position.
robert108 - 03:10pm on 10/06/2006
108,i bet you don`t own a passport,as most Americans don`t.For this reason you have no knowlage of the real world,just sit ,eat pop corn and watch Fox news.
Christianity came befor Islam and judaism befor Christianity.Funny how you forgot your Barbaric Crusaders who not only masscred Muslims,but Arab christians too.What Christians achived in barbaric behavior is enough to beat another 1000 yrs of Muslim behavior.Have you forgotten the 6 million jews?the over 6 million blacks not counting the ones murderd in Africa by Christian Invaders(not holy land)
while Christians in spain were killing and expelling the jews if they do not convert,they found refuge in Muslim countreis.go back 60 yrs,if you were not born ask your dad what terror attacks were muslims doing in the states and the world. Nothing ,cause there was no zionist Israel.At that time America was covering Black murders by terrorist like the KKK..etc.Hanging Nigroes on trees,burning crosses,and blowing up churches of nigroes.Ask a surviver what is Terror and he will tell you.
I don`t see you mention any thing about Judaism and their Books and hatred of Jesus and co.Talking about the site of a woman`s hair,try taking the wig of a jewish woman.All these murderous rage is don by a bunch of lunatics,even if it offends all muslims ,the majority do not condon the behaviour.
i thought you watch you tube,and then you still deny the facts of Jewish agression,filmed by once none beleiving Americans and Concious Jews,till they saw with their eyes.All along when palestinians would complain to the world that they were being attacked by jewish settlers ,we turned a deaf ear till now via hidden cameras.
I`ll ask you a question and hope you answer it :
If you as an American (even though you are not the real owners of the land)suddenly got attacked and your homes and land taken by Native Anericans who happend to have been living some wher else for over 500(to be kind and not 1000)yrs and suddenly they want thier land back as THEIR and not your religion states to do so.What would you or your Family have done???,will you sit and let them take it??And if they succeded and threw you into camps while they feed on your sweat and blood,and take your human rights and manipulate you and kill your kids for throwing stones,Would your dad or you have sat their and let things happen???.
Palestinians are fighting back injustice and stealing of land,when a human gets attacked,he has every right to fight back,and if any one comes by ships from another country to take my home and land ,i will fight with every tooth and nail,and if like the palestinians have no military weapons,i will find any way to defend and avenge the killing of my beloved ones(based on no one to fight for my rights legaly)
Tourture is something your wonderfull soldeirs are practicing in Iraq,No different to Saddam.
Hiding behind civilians? Your civilians are your soldeirs and are very well armed.In the case of israel,every civilians is a soldeir.
Last but not least, staging that smoke picture ,does not deny the fact that the building was bombed,whether it had one or double smoke makes no difference to what happened.In fact no one would have noticed how many smokes their were if it was not for a specialised person.After that the dead and wounded were accused to be fake.Only a jewish mind would promote this sort of lies.
lisa - 02:10pm on 10/07/2006
Lisa...I am native American.
Zsa Zsa - 03:10pm on 10/07/2006
Well at least they have a nice car so they don’t have to drive a handicap scooter through the mud and water. God bless.
Rob,the Bible is the MOST contadictive,un accurate of the three books.The Jews do not beleive in it nor on Jesus and mary.Calling Ishmail a Bastered offspring of Abraham and an Egyptian slave is a one of the made up lies of the Evil Jewish scribes that Jesus so hated and continuasly condemed for their Twisted teachings and doings.They are even mentined in the Bible.
In Abraham`s days Polygami normal(read your scripture).Your mormons REVIVED it and not made it up.It is in the old testamentby the orders of God as he orderd Abraham to marry hajar who was NOT an Egyptian but a Bedouin from the area of UR(IRAQ).SO why would Abraham turn against god and his teachings if it was not accepted by him?.For a reason god made Sara not bore any children till he bore his first by hajar.Another contradiction by the bible is when god orders ABR to destroy the ceteis of Gamora and Sodam because of their SINS which what Abraham is being accused of.
Look at the beloved King David,Jacob,and the notourious SOLOMON,they all beat Mohammed by Far in obtaining more wives than him.Solomon had 700 hundred wives,300 concubines,what they call now HAREM.This is all Propaganda by the Jews who handed it down to Christians.After all Ishmail is not the only victim here,bit also Jesus who was called ILLIGITIMATE son of a union between Mary and a Roman soldeir called Pantera in the Talmud(Jewish religious book): “He was called YESHUA BEN PANTERA”. Also called “RABBI SHIMEON BEN AZZAI= SON OF AN ADULTRESS MARY”
Even thomas`s 105th saying: Jesus said “he who knows the father and the mother will be called SON OF A HARLOT.
In the old test Hajar is called his wife and Ishmail his son,i suppose they forgot to ommit it out.
In the kpran it does say that hose of Isaac(isralites were the chosen people at one time as they were the only beleivers in one God.It also mentions that why do they stay from their true teachings and all the favours that God has given them,yet they still deffy him.All the favours has gone when JESUS came to show them the right way and reform their old religion,but we know what they planned for him,and felt about him.It is in their books.They do not consider him a to be a Prophet and the coming Messiah as muslims do ,let alone the son of God.
The koran confirms jesus`s status and greatness and Mary`s virgin birth as Jesus told his people.
So if you are a jew then you will not be happy,and if you are a christian WAKE UP.
lisa: There is absolutely no equivalence between current Jewish and Christian behavior and current Islamic terrorist behavior.
Rob, is that all you can answer back?.Make up your mind,you either batmouth as you say CURRENT Muslims and stop bringing the koran into it. Are you angry with the Koran of the past,or the muslims??.It seems you choose when to shove it in your arguments.
How far back do you not consider CURRENT? because one day the current events of muslim extremism will be the past/history,and i wonder if your kids will stop mentioning them and pretend they never happened,like you are doing.
The current Christians are doing it under the carpet and if it were not for their Governments and the consiquences they would do what they did ONLY 30 yrs ago.On the other hand the Jews are doing the worst human crimes to defensless people and is what you call STATE TERRORISM.What they are doing is what their zionist past leaders preached and planned and i have the quotes and sourses.
The wheel goes round, first it was the Jews,then christians,and now the Muslims.God knows who will be next,or maybe History will repeat it self.
lisa: I don’t badmouth the koran; I badmouth the terrorists. Try to pay attention.
In the case of Islam, from the seventh century to today, no real change. For Christianity and Judaism, the last hundred years or so. I hope that some day the horrors of Islamic extremism will be history, but they have shown no sign of relenting, so it’s not so likely right now. All it takes to send them into a murderous rage is a few cartoons, or the sight of a woman’s hair.
Your portrayal of what is going on between the “Palestinians” and the Israelis is completely false. It is the Israelis who are being constantly attacked, and they are simply defending themselves. Anyone who maintains otherwise is seriously deluded.
Christians and Jews are subjected to terrible atrocities by Islamic extremists, like beheading, torture and mutilation and suicide bombing, and yet do not respond in kind. We do not hide behind civilians, and we do not stage phony scenes or retouch photos to manufacture false events; we have plenty of real ones to back up our position.
108,i bet you don`t own a passport,as most Americans don`t.For this reason you have no knowlage of the real world,just sit ,eat pop corn and watch Fox news.
Christianity came befor Islam and judaism befor Christianity.Funny how you forgot your Barbaric Crusaders who not only masscred Muslims,but Arab christians too.What Christians achived in barbaric behavior is enough to beat another 1000 yrs of Muslim behavior.Have you forgotten the 6 million jews?the over 6 million blacks not counting the ones murderd in Africa by Christian Invaders(not holy land)
while Christians in spain were killing and expelling the jews if they do not convert,they found refuge in Muslim countreis.go back 60 yrs,if you were not born ask your dad what terror attacks were muslims doing in the states and the world. Nothing ,cause there was no zionist Israel.At that time America was covering Black murders by terrorist like the KKK..etc.Hanging Nigroes on trees,burning crosses,and blowing up churches of nigroes.Ask a surviver what is Terror and he will tell you.
I don`t see you mention any thing about Judaism and their Books and hatred of Jesus and co.Talking about the site of a woman`s hair,try taking the wig of a jewish woman.All these murderous rage is don by a bunch of lunatics,even if it offends all muslims ,the majority do not condon the behaviour.
i thought you watch you tube,and then you still deny the facts of Jewish agression,filmed by once none beleiving Americans and Concious Jews,till they saw with their eyes.All along when palestinians would complain to the world that they were being attacked by jewish settlers ,we turned a deaf ear till now via hidden cameras.
I`ll ask you a question and hope you answer it :
If you as an American (even though you are not the real owners of the land)suddenly got attacked and your homes and land taken by Native Anericans who happend to have been living some wher else for over 500(to be kind and not 1000)yrs and suddenly they want thier land back as THEIR and not your religion states to do so.What would you or your Family have done???,will you sit and let them take it??And if they succeded and threw you into camps while they feed on your sweat and blood,and take your human rights and manipulate you and kill your kids for throwing stones,Would your dad or you have sat their and let things happen???.
Palestinians are fighting back injustice and stealing of land,when a human gets attacked,he has every right to fight back,and if any one comes by ships from another country to take my home and land ,i will fight with every tooth and nail,and if like the palestinians have no military weapons,i will find any way to defend and avenge the killing of my beloved ones(based on no one to fight for my rights legaly)
Tourture is something your wonderfull soldeirs are practicing in Iraq,No different to Saddam.
Hiding behind civilians? Your civilians are your soldeirs and are very well armed.In the case of israel,every civilians is a soldeir.
Last but not least, staging that smoke picture ,does not deny the fact that the building was bombed,whether it had one or double smoke makes no difference to what happened.In fact no one would have noticed how many smokes their were if it was not for a specialised person.After that the dead and wounded were accused to be fake.Only a jewish mind would promote this sort of lies.
Lisa...I am native American.
Well at least they have a nice car so they don’t have to drive a handicap scooter through the mud and water. God bless.