Thirty pieces of silver...Thirty pieces of silver...Thirty pieces of silver
FlyOnTheWall - 08:06pm on 06/19/2008
How can I get on the same gravy train Gaylord Conrad has been riding almost all his life?
Kevin - 08:06pm on 06/19/2008
Perhaps the most appalling thing in this whole mess for this particular North Dakotan is not so much that Kent Conrad allowed himself to be bribed, but that his price was so low.
That, my friends, is called a smackdown. Nice job, Rob.
gilbyguy - 08:06pm on 06/19/2008
I love that, back in his 20’s he didn’t get any special treatment.
Well let’s see. Back then you weren’t in position to ruin or favor a bank.
As if we’re supposed to assume that it’s ok he hasn’t learned anything in the last 30 years or so.
The Whistler - 08:06pm on 06/19/2008
In 2004, I also financed an eight unit apartment building in Bismarck, in which I live.
Hmmmm ... I own a town home in Georgetown, a beach house in Maryland, but I live in a dumpy apartment in Bismarck.
Riiiiiiiighhhhht!!!!!
gilbyguy - 08:06pm on 06/19/2008
Errr that bold text is a direct quote from Sen. Conrad’s Op-ed.
gilbyguy - 08:06pm on 06/19/2008
I think reporters should ask to visit his home in Bismarck to verify that he lives there.
The Whistler - 09:06pm on 06/19/2008
And don’t forget that Conrad has accepted several thousand dollars in campaign contributions from Countrywide execs.
Conservative Reader - 09:06pm on 06/19/2008
I have never asked for, expected or was aware of any special favors by Countrywide executives.
A third rate and classless attempt at parsing, with none of Bill Clinton’s rhetorical flair. Conrad told Mozilo that he needed the mortgage, which in Conrad-speak isn’t quite the same thing as asking for a mortgage.
I also consulted a mortgage broker in Washington, D.C. He offered me the identical rate as Countrywide.
First, that broker was almost certainly hooked up with Countrywide anyway. Few brokers weren’t. Second, more parsing. Thus far, at least, the rate hasn’t been the issue The fees, specifically the origination fee have been. What happened here is that Countrywide waived the $10k origination fee (1%). The broker didn’t address that in the the Bismark Tribune, because he wasn’t asked and because he never saw the Countrywide Good Faith Estimate (GFE) in any case..
As for Conrad being “unaware” that Countrywide waived the origination fee, in the first place I guarantee both Conrads’ signatures are on that GFE… as are the fees. Second, apparently Conrad didn’t take the mortgage broker’s quote seriously since he obviously never compared the brolers figures to Countrywide’s. Finally, all fees are required to be listed on the Settlement State (HUD-1), a tiresome number of copies of which Conrad and his wife signed at the closing. Is the public to believe that a US Senator who has several mortgages under his belt doesn’t know what’s on the Settlement Statement? Nobody over 18 is that obtuse, Senator. Sorry!
All of which proves once again that Mr. Conrad is either too disingenuous for public service, or too stupid. In any case, what is not true is that the people are so stupid as to believe this stuff. Hard to imagine a less artful dodge than this.
Bat One - 10:06pm on 06/19/2008
After you’ve been in the U.S. Senate for 22 years, served by sycophants and lobbyists and your own damn elevators, you expect special treatment. It’s a rare public servant who doesn’t go native.
Thirty pieces of silver...Thirty pieces of silver...Thirty pieces of silver
How can I get on the same gravy train Gaylord Conrad has been riding almost all his life?
That, my friends, is called a smackdown. Nice job, Rob.
I love that, back in his 20’s he didn’t get any special treatment.
Well let’s see. Back then you weren’t in position to ruin or favor a bank.
As if we’re supposed to assume that it’s ok he hasn’t learned anything in the last 30 years or so.
In 2004, I also financed an eight unit apartment building in Bismarck, in which I live.
Hmmmm ... I own a town home in Georgetown, a beach house in Maryland, but I live in a dumpy apartment in Bismarck.
Riiiiiiiighhhhht!!!!!
Errr that bold text is a direct quote from Sen. Conrad’s Op-ed.
I think reporters should ask to visit his home in Bismarck to verify that he lives there.
And don’t forget that Conrad has accepted several thousand dollars in campaign contributions from Countrywide execs.
A third rate and classless attempt at parsing, with none of Bill Clinton’s rhetorical flair. Conrad told Mozilo that he needed the mortgage, which in Conrad-speak isn’t quite the same thing as asking for a mortgage.
First, that broker was almost certainly hooked up with Countrywide anyway. Few brokers weren’t. Second, more parsing. Thus far, at least, the rate hasn’t been the issue The fees, specifically the origination fee have been. What happened here is that Countrywide waived the $10k origination fee (1%). The broker didn’t address that in the the Bismark Tribune, because he wasn’t asked and because he never saw the Countrywide Good Faith Estimate (GFE) in any case..
As for Conrad being “unaware” that Countrywide waived the origination fee, in the first place I guarantee both Conrads’ signatures are on that GFE… as are the fees. Second, apparently Conrad didn’t take the mortgage broker’s quote seriously since he obviously never compared the brolers figures to Countrywide’s. Finally, all fees are required to be listed on the Settlement State (HUD-1), a tiresome number of copies of which Conrad and his wife signed at the closing. Is the public to believe that a US Senator who has several mortgages under his belt doesn’t know what’s on the Settlement Statement? Nobody over 18 is that obtuse, Senator. Sorry!
All of which proves once again that Mr. Conrad is either too disingenuous for public service, or too stupid. In any case, what is not true is that the people are so stupid as to believe this stuff. Hard to imagine a less artful dodge than this.
After you’ve been in the U.S. Senate for 22 years, served by sycophants and lobbyists and your own damn elevators, you expect special treatment. It’s a rare public servant who doesn’t go native.