And now, Republicans can never respect Jimmy Carter again.....????
Hannitized - 09:05am on 05/26/2008
It will take another attack on our soil to unite the country in the right direction. People like Carter will shut up in fear for his safety then. Too bad the post 911 unity has faded so soon.
phil kurtz - 10:05am on 05/26/2008
For a former US President to undermine not only a part of our country’s long-standing national policy but also a national security secret of one of our closest allies is unforgivable.
Rob,
Every country in the industrialized world knows that the Israelis have nuclear weapons. Our continual denial of this fact is just plain stupid. Carter’s statement undermines nothing. What it does is show our favoritism toward Israel. You just don’t like Jimmy Carter, that’s all.
ollie-B - 10:05am on 05/26/2008
phil kurtz,
Encouraging or stating that it’s useful for another attack which kills another 2000 people is disgraceful. You are delusional if you think Jimmy Carter will stop working to achieve peace in the Arab-Israeli conflict. If the unfortunate happens and we do have another attack, it will be the fault of the Bush Administration for making a disaster out of Iraq, not completing securing Afghanistan, fueling hatred of US Policies, authorizing torture and holding hundreds of people without any evidence etc etc..
Nunez - 11:05am on 05/26/2008
The settlement issue alone should encourage us to reconsider whether Israel should be an ally of our nation. A simple search on practically any video site for “Hebron” or “Tel-Rumeida” is enough to frighten anyone away from there. However, I realize that I’m day-dreaming, seeing that a veil covers our eyes when we talk about that crazy place, one which I continually try to remove.
Regardless, we all know that state secrets are sacred, but secrets of this nature are unnecessary. I must agree with watashiwa (I’m even tempted to say “Watashi wa onaji da") when he says that everyone and their mother knows Israel has some uncomfortable number of nukes. In fact, I do thank the Nobel Peace laureate for breaking the ice.
Spencer Williams IV - 11:05am on 05/26/2008
That’s a relief. Other reports said that they had 300. The world is much safer with only 150. Of course, if they obliterated the Middle East, they would only have about 75 left so, it leaves them much more open to attack.
This knowledge probably also lessens the desire of Muslim countries to obtain a few of those puppies for themselves substantially.
ews48 - 01:05pm on 05/26/2008
If we are going to support Israel, Watashi wa kamaimasen (I’m ok with that), but let’s be frank. We bash the shit out of Iran for (allegedly) trying to develop nuclear weapons while Israel has enough nukes to decimate the entire Middle East. And, are we looking for more trouble? Why the hell is McCain touring the Middle East with a Jew? Are we blatantly telling the Muslims we’re for Jews and against Arab? Are we saying, “mess with us and you’ll get what we did to Iraq?” I say it’s time to get the Republican nitwits out of the White House and start reaching out diplomatically to supposed or potential “enemies.”
Oswaldo - 04:05pm on 05/26/2008
Wow, the anti-Semites are crawling out like cockroaches after someone just flipped a light switch off. Yes, by all means, let’s “talk” to Iran and the rest of the brotherhood of people that have stated they want us dead. Oh, which part of “want us dead” don’t you understand. You retards probably think “talking to them” and inevitably cutting them a check, er, I mean “giving them aid” will make sure they don’t pick on us anymore. Appeasement really is provocative.
And, somebody tell those Egyptians that we send $3 billion a year to that because they’re Arabs we’ll now have to cut the money spigot off. Our bad, we missed that whole “A-rabs” thing they had going on. I wonder if democrat appeasement strategies that lead to Israel being wiped off the face of the earth will convince the Jewish to stop voting for dems. Probably not. Kind of hard to have a right of return when you don’t have anything to return to.
Hoss - 05:05pm on 05/26/2008
Nunez:
it will be the fault of the Bush Administration for making a disaster out of Iraq
Exactly what disaster is that? Don’t you watch the news, we have for all intent and purposes won the war in Iraq and now it is a matter of determing how best to draw down to a force level that will allow the Iraqi Army to hold on to that victory. Iraq, like all wars has had its mistakes, but it is no disaster!
Jimmy Carter was not only the worst President in our history, as far as I am concerned he is a traitor. He has often gone to foreign soil to complain about US foreign policy and undermine our nation. He’s lucky he has not been tried and shot.
Israel is A DEMOCRACY, Israel is OUR ALLY! Israel is defending its own land against a Palestinian people that do not exist, they are mostly Arab and almost wholly Muslim, they are devoted to the annihilation of every Jew on earth and the complete destruction of Israel, just like their idol - Adolph Hitler. But, the liberals like Carter want to help these people destroy Israel, none of them are interested in peace. Carter is no peacemaker, he is the Crown Prince of Appeasement and the proponent of the Unilateral surrender of the US to Al Queda in Irag and Israel to Islam. Did I mention he is lucky he has not been shot for treason?
Neiman - 05:05pm on 05/26/2008
Neiman,
Exactly what disaster is that?
A disaster that has killed between 90,000[1] civilians to 655,000[2] ‘excess’ deaths to another recent study that has put the number to 1,033,000[3]. There are now 5 million Iraqi refugees or one in five[4]. Imagine living in Baghdad where the lights on two hours a day in Baghdad[5], garbage throughout the streets causing disease[6][7], and according to the U.N. only one in three Iraqis have access to clean drinking water[8]. Sanitation is also a persistent problem. Less than 10 per cent of urban households outside Baghdad are connected to sanitary sewage systems, and where they do exist, there are frequent failures[9].
Don’t you watch the news, we have for all intent and purposes won the war in Iraq and now it is a matter of determing how best to draw down to a force level that will allow the Iraqi Army to hold on to that victory.
I agree that the ‘surge’ has lower the violence to levels in Iraq to the levels during mid-2006. Although the purpose of the ‘surge’ was for the country to be able to have a window of political opportunity and yet they have only met 3 of the 18 benchmarks set by President Bush[10]. Gen. David Petraeus said during his testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee in April 2008,
“the situation in certain areas is still unsatisfactory and innumerable challenges remain.” and “[the surge is] fragile and reversible."[11]
And now, Republicans can never respect Jimmy Carter again.....????
It will take another attack on our soil to unite the country in the right direction. People like Carter will shut up in fear for his safety then. Too bad the post 911 unity has faded so soon.
Rob,
Every country in the industrialized world knows that the Israelis have nuclear weapons. Our continual denial of this fact is just plain stupid. Carter’s statement undermines nothing. What it does is show our favoritism toward Israel. You just don’t like Jimmy Carter, that’s all.
phil kurtz,
Encouraging or stating that it’s useful for another attack which kills another 2000 people is disgraceful. You are delusional if you think Jimmy Carter will stop working to achieve peace in the Arab-Israeli conflict. If the unfortunate happens and we do have another attack, it will be the fault of the Bush Administration for making a disaster out of Iraq, not completing securing Afghanistan, fueling hatred of US Policies, authorizing torture and holding hundreds of people without any evidence etc etc..
The settlement issue alone should encourage us to reconsider whether Israel should be an ally of our nation. A simple search on practically any video site for “Hebron” or “Tel-Rumeida” is enough to frighten anyone away from there. However, I realize that I’m day-dreaming, seeing that a veil covers our eyes when we talk about that crazy place, one which I continually try to remove.
Regardless, we all know that state secrets are sacred, but secrets of this nature are unnecessary. I must agree with watashiwa (I’m even tempted to say “Watashi wa onaji da") when he says that everyone and their mother knows Israel has some uncomfortable number of nukes. In fact, I do thank the Nobel Peace laureate for breaking the ice.
That’s a relief. Other reports said that they had 300. The world is much safer with only 150. Of course, if they obliterated the Middle East, they would only have about 75 left so, it leaves them much more open to attack.
This knowledge probably also lessens the desire of Muslim countries to obtain a few of those puppies for themselves substantially.
If we are going to support Israel, Watashi wa kamaimasen (I’m ok with that), but let’s be frank. We bash the shit out of Iran for (allegedly) trying to develop nuclear weapons while Israel has enough nukes to decimate the entire Middle East. And, are we looking for more trouble? Why the hell is McCain touring the Middle East with a Jew? Are we blatantly telling the Muslims we’re for Jews and against Arab? Are we saying, “mess with us and you’ll get what we did to Iraq?” I say it’s time to get the Republican nitwits out of the White House and start reaching out diplomatically to supposed or potential “enemies.”
Wow, the anti-Semites are crawling out like cockroaches after someone just flipped a light switch off. Yes, by all means, let’s “talk” to Iran and the rest of the brotherhood of people that have stated they want us dead. Oh, which part of “want us dead” don’t you understand. You retards probably think “talking to them” and inevitably cutting them a check, er, I mean “giving them aid” will make sure they don’t pick on us anymore. Appeasement really is provocative.
And, somebody tell those Egyptians that we send $3 billion a year to that because they’re Arabs we’ll now have to cut the money spigot off. Our bad, we missed that whole “A-rabs” thing they had going on. I wonder if democrat appeasement strategies that lead to Israel being wiped off the face of the earth will convince the Jewish to stop voting for dems. Probably not. Kind of hard to have a right of return when you don’t have anything to return to.
Nunez:
Exactly what disaster is that? Don’t you watch the news, we have for all intent and purposes won the war in Iraq and now it is a matter of determing how best to draw down to a force level that will allow the Iraqi Army to hold on to that victory. Iraq, like all wars has had its mistakes, but it is no disaster!
Jimmy Carter was not only the worst President in our history, as far as I am concerned he is a traitor. He has often gone to foreign soil to complain about US foreign policy and undermine our nation. He’s lucky he has not been tried and shot.
Israel is A DEMOCRACY, Israel is OUR ALLY! Israel is defending its own land against a Palestinian people that do not exist, they are mostly Arab and almost wholly Muslim, they are devoted to the annihilation of every Jew on earth and the complete destruction of Israel, just like their idol - Adolph Hitler. But, the liberals like Carter want to help these people destroy Israel, none of them are interested in peace. Carter is no peacemaker, he is the Crown Prince of Appeasement and the proponent of the Unilateral surrender of the US to Al Queda in Irag and Israel to Islam. Did I mention he is lucky he has not been shot for treason?
Neiman,
A disaster that has killed between 90,000[1] civilians to 655,000[2] ‘excess’ deaths to another recent study that has put the number to 1,033,000[3]. There are now 5 million Iraqi refugees or one in five[4]. Imagine living in Baghdad where the lights on two hours a day in Baghdad[5], garbage throughout the streets causing disease[6][7], and according to the U.N. only one in three Iraqis have access to clean drinking water[8]. Sanitation is also a persistent problem. Less than 10 per cent of urban households outside Baghdad are connected to sanitary sewage systems, and where they do exist, there are frequent failures[9].
I agree that the ‘surge’ has lower the violence to levels in Iraq to the levels during mid-2006. Although the purpose of the ‘surge’ was for the country to be able to have a window of political opportunity and yet they have only met 3 of the 18 benchmarks set by President Bush[10]. Gen. David Petraeus said during his testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee in April 2008,
“the situation in certain areas is still unsatisfactory and innumerable challenges remain.” and “[the surge is] fragile and reversible."[11]
1: http://www.iraqbodycount.com
2: http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/10/11/human.cost.of.war.pdf
3: http://www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=88
4: http://www.refugeesinternational.org/content/article/detail/9679
5: http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/oct2006/a102306sj1.html
6: http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=71800
7: http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=71225
8:http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/03/eveningnews/main3132093.shtml
9: http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/iraq_43232.html
10: http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/01/benchmark.html
11:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/gen_petraeus_testimony_to_the.html