Has anybody checked to see if ROTC programs are approved at the Universities?
The ROTC program at my private school was cut in 1991 for cost cutting measures and cadets had to go across town.
I suspect the same is the case with at least some of these schools.
Lestat - 10:01pm on 01/22/2008
I’m still waiting for the Clinton “middle class tax cut”; campaign promises mean nothing coming from the Dems.
robert108 - 10:01pm on 01/22/2008
Lestat, ROTC isn’t the full story. I know for a fact that Yale and Harvard currently prohibit military recruiters on campus at events like job fairs, etc.
I also know that Columbia banned them in the past, though just recently agreed to allow them on campus. Though Columbia still doesn’t recognize the ROTC.
So, clearly, there are some colleges here getting big-time taxpayer dollars while not complying with the Solomon Act.
Rob - 10:01pm on 01/22/2008
Lestat, ROTC isn’t the full story.
Can you tell me what part of the Solomon Act refers to military recruitment and not ROTC?
Lestat - 11:01pm on 01/22/2008
They do some of that science stuff.
why in the world are we giving them hundreds of millions of our tax dollars?
WOOF - 04:01am on 01/23/2008
Im not a Yank but I thought that ROTC press release was interesting, timely and reasonable and it related to a fantastic article I read a while ago called “On Forgetting the obvious” by Robert Kaplan.
Personally, and as an academic myself, I think many people employed at unis these days are gutless pretentious wankers who havent got two brain cells to rub together.. but i should let you read the article above since Kaplan (vicariously) describes the moral confusion, the outright treason and the fictitious intelligence of tenured academics so much better than I ever could.
In Australia, gutless hypocritical people with trendy causes they dont quite understand are quite common too and sadly many work at uni.
[I apologise if having an alias makes me a troll too, i would just like to keep my name from my dear colleagues who lurk so sweetly in the background.]
Schnitzel Von Krumm - 04:01am on 01/23/2008
Should you not wish to read all of Kaplan’s article, the relevant section is headed “dividing” eg..
“Liberal democratic societies have commonly been defended by conservative military establishments whose members may lack the social graces of the cosmopolitan classes they protect. Such a conservative American military now has a particularly thankless task, however. Much of what it does abroad is guarding sea lanes and training troops of fledgling democracies, helping essentially to provide the security armature for an emerging global civilization. But the more that civilization evolves—with its own mass media, non-governmental organizations and professional class—the less credit and sympathy it grants to the American troops who at times risk their lives for it. Irony is stock-and-trade for sophisticated wit, of course. But it cannot forever obscure the contradiction between the functions of an effective warrior class and the unwillingness of those functions’ beneficiaries to support its warriors.”
Schnitzel Von Krumm - 05:01am on 01/23/2008
Should you not wish to read all of Kaplan’s article, the relevant section is headed “dividing” eg..
“Liberal democratic societies have commonly been defended by conservative military establishments whose members may lack the social graces of the cosmopolitan classes they protect. Such a conservative American military now has a particularly thankless task, however. Much of what it does abroad is guarding sea lanes and training troops of fledgling democracies, helping essentially to provide the security armature for an emerging global civilization. But the more that civilization evolves—with its own mass media, non-governmental organizations and professional class—the less credit and sympathy it grants to the American troops who at times risk their lives for it. Irony is stock-and-trade for sophisticated wit, of course. But it cannot forever obscure the contradiction between the functions of an effective warrior class and the unwillingness of those functions’ beneficiaries to support its warriors.”
Schnitzel Von Krumm - 05:01am on 01/23/2008
There’s a bit of support.
Defense Budget $696 Billion.
WOOF - 05:01am on 01/23/2008
WOOF:
There’s a bit of support. Defense Budget $696 Billion
Yep. And a fair amount of it goes to the schools in question.
Let them forgot defense contracts if they don’t want to support the military. Sounds eminently rational to me.
Has anybody checked to see if ROTC programs are approved at the Universities?
The ROTC program at my private school was cut in 1991 for cost cutting measures and cadets had to go across town.
I suspect the same is the case with at least some of these schools.
I’m still waiting for the Clinton “middle class tax cut”; campaign promises mean nothing coming from the Dems.
Lestat, ROTC isn’t the full story. I know for a fact that Yale and Harvard currently prohibit military recruiters on campus at events like job fairs, etc.
I also know that Columbia banned them in the past, though just recently agreed to allow them on campus. Though Columbia still doesn’t recognize the ROTC.
So, clearly, there are some colleges here getting big-time taxpayer dollars while not complying with the Solomon Act.
Can you tell me what part of the Solomon Act refers to military recruitment and not ROTC?
They do some of that science stuff.
Im not a Yank but I thought that ROTC press release was interesting, timely and reasonable and it related to a fantastic article I read a while ago called “On Forgetting the obvious” by Robert Kaplan.
http://www.the-american-interest.com/ai2/article.cfm?Id=289
Personally, and as an academic myself, I think many people employed at unis these days are gutless pretentious wankers who havent got two brain cells to rub together.. but i should let you read the article above since Kaplan (vicariously) describes the moral confusion, the outright treason and the fictitious intelligence of tenured academics so much better than I ever could.
In Australia, gutless hypocritical people with trendy causes they dont quite understand are quite common too and sadly many work at uni.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23086457-7583,00.html
[I apologise if having an alias makes me a troll too, i would just like to keep my name from my dear colleagues who lurk so sweetly in the background.]
Should you not wish to read all of Kaplan’s article, the relevant section is headed “dividing” eg..
“Liberal democratic societies have commonly been defended by conservative military establishments whose members may lack the social graces of the cosmopolitan classes they protect. Such a conservative American military now has a particularly thankless task, however. Much of what it does abroad is guarding sea lanes and training troops of fledgling democracies, helping essentially to provide the security armature for an emerging global civilization. But the more that civilization evolves—with its own mass media, non-governmental organizations and professional class—the less credit and sympathy it grants to the American troops who at times risk their lives for it. Irony is stock-and-trade for sophisticated wit, of course. But it cannot forever obscure the contradiction between the functions of an effective warrior class and the unwillingness of those functions’ beneficiaries to support its warriors.”
Should you not wish to read all of Kaplan’s article, the relevant section is headed “dividing” eg..
“Liberal democratic societies have commonly been defended by conservative military establishments whose members may lack the social graces of the cosmopolitan classes they protect. Such a conservative American military now has a particularly thankless task, however. Much of what it does abroad is guarding sea lanes and training troops of fledgling democracies, helping essentially to provide the security armature for an emerging global civilization. But the more that civilization evolves—with its own mass media, non-governmental organizations and professional class—the less credit and sympathy it grants to the American troops who at times risk their lives for it. Irony is stock-and-trade for sophisticated wit, of course. But it cannot forever obscure the contradiction between the functions of an effective warrior class and the unwillingness of those functions’ beneficiaries to support its warriors.”
There’s a bit of support.
Defense Budget $696 Billion.
WOOF:
Yep. And a fair amount of it goes to the schools in question.
Let them forgot defense contracts if they don’t want to support the military. Sounds eminently rational to me.