The categories were: “A lot more”; “a little bit more”; “About the same”: “A little bit more”; and “a lot less”.
Whistler then writes:
What’s even more shocking is that according to this study 62% of the people think we should do little or nothing more about the issue.
The category that he adds to get his magic 62% is “a little bit more”, but Whistler claims it is “do little”. Gawd, how much disengenious could you get Whistler?
Puzzlefeet - 09:05pm on 05/16/2008
Puzzlefeet: Exactly. The study actually comes to the exact opposite conclusion than that which the author of this post claims.
The question range includes two questions on degrees of how much more the government should do.
The third question is neutral.
The remaining two questions refer to how much less the government should do.
Clearly, 55% - 61% of respondents think the government should do more to some degree. 18% think the government should do less to some degree. The remainder are neutral.
The post should be rewritten or taken down.
pparets - 09:05pm on 05/16/2008
This is what I said:
What’s even more shocking is that according to this study 62% of the people think we should do little or nothing more about the issue. (Link to the study, page 4)
Work on your reading comprehension P’s.
The Whistler - 06:05am on 05/17/2008
The study is crap anyway. Without clear definitions of “a little bit more” etc, it lacks any sort of reliability or significance.
Andrew - 06:05am on 05/17/2008
The study is crap anyway. Without clear definitions of “a little bit more” etc, it lacks any sort of reliability or significance.
Exactly. You’ll getting all worked about a poll that has questionable statistical value. A poll should have specific direct statements to which those polled could respond as strongly agreeing, agreeing, neutral (don’t care), disagree, strongly disagree. This method leaves out most of the quess work on how many favor or disfavor a particular item.
docdave - 07:05am on 05/17/2008
Again, Whistler you mischaracterize what the study says and then you continue to try and justify what you wrote:
What’s even more shocking is that according to this study 62% of the people think we should do little or nothing more about the issue. (Link to the study, page 4)
Work on your reading comprehension P’s.
My reading comprehension is just fine, you leave out words so the study says something it doesn’t. You intentionally left out the word “bit” so it says “little or nothing more”. You should have written “little bit more or nothing more.”
Yours was a dishonest and disingenous reading of the study. You should know better, but keep digging the hole Whistler.
Puzzlefeet - 11:05am on 05/17/2008
Yours was a dishonest and disingenous reading of the study. You should know better, but keep digging the hole Whistler.
Only a contentious person could read “a little or nothing more” to read that the author meant “absolutely nothing at all”. If someone says “I need all green or blue eyed people” to come forward, they mean all green eyed or all blue eyed people, not all blue eyed people and green people.
This is why Whistler’s mocking your reading comprehension. Compund sentences and statements (read: compund sentences and compound statements) are a staple of reading comprehension.
Kenny - 12:05pm on 05/17/2008
What’s even more shocking is that according to this study 62% of the people think we should do little or nothing more about the issue. (Link to the study, page 4)
I guess that a person can make up their own mind what “a little bit more means”…
Further, actually reading his post, in the very next sentence he repeats that people believe that we should do a “little bit more"…
The dishonesty isn’t on Whistler here.
Kenny - 12:05pm on 05/17/2008
Kenney: NO WHERE in the U of Mo study does it say or suggest that 62% of the people think we should do little or nothing.
A LOT MORE (38%) + A LITTLE BIT MORE (23%) adds up to ‘do a little or a lot’ at 61%
A LITTLE LESS (5%) + DO A LOT LESS (13%) adds up to ‘do little or nothing’ at 18%.
Puzzlefeet called it right at the beginning.
pparets - 01:05pm on 05/17/2008
There is a huge difference between doing a lot more (something McCain is proposing) and doing a “little bit more.”
Lumping them together to make a case for McCain’s stupidity is wrong.
I can understand why Clinton and Obama are for it. They’re fighting for that 38% that want a lot more.
The categories were: “A lot more”; “a little bit more”; “About the same”: “A little bit more”; and “a lot less”.
Whistler then writes:
The category that he adds to get his magic 62% is “a little bit more”, but Whistler claims it is “do little”. Gawd, how much disengenious could you get Whistler?
Puzzlefeet: Exactly. The study actually comes to the exact opposite conclusion than that which the author of this post claims.
The question range includes two questions on degrees of how much more the government should do.
The third question is neutral.
The remaining two questions refer to how much less the government should do.
Clearly, 55% - 61% of respondents think the government should do more to some degree. 18% think the government should do less to some degree. The remainder are neutral.
The post should be rewritten or taken down.
This is what I said:
What’s even more shocking is that according to this study 62% of the people think we should do little or nothing more about the issue. (Link to the study, page 4)
Work on your reading comprehension P’s.
The study is crap anyway. Without clear definitions of “a little bit more” etc, it lacks any sort of reliability or significance.
Exactly. You’ll getting all worked about a poll that has questionable statistical value. A poll should have specific direct statements to which those polled could respond as strongly agreeing, agreeing, neutral (don’t care), disagree, strongly disagree. This method leaves out most of the quess work on how many favor or disfavor a particular item.
Again, Whistler you mischaracterize what the study says and then you continue to try and justify what you wrote:
My reading comprehension is just fine, you leave out words so the study says something it doesn’t. You intentionally left out the word “bit” so it says “little or nothing more”. You should have written “little bit more or nothing more.”
Yours was a dishonest and disingenous reading of the study. You should know better, but keep digging the hole Whistler.
Only a contentious person could read “a little or nothing more” to read that the author meant “absolutely nothing at all”. If someone says “I need all green or blue eyed people” to come forward, they mean all green eyed or all blue eyed people, not all blue eyed people and green people.
This is why Whistler’s mocking your reading comprehension. Compund sentences and statements (read: compund sentences and compound statements) are a staple of reading comprehension.
Further, actually reading his post, in the very next sentence he repeats that people believe that we should do a “little bit more"…
The dishonesty isn’t on Whistler here.
Kenney: NO WHERE in the U of Mo study does it say or suggest that 62% of the people think we should do little or nothing.
A LOT MORE (38%) + A LITTLE BIT MORE (23%) adds up to ‘do a little or a lot’ at 61%
A LITTLE LESS (5%) + DO A LOT LESS (13%) adds up to ‘do little or nothing’ at 18%.
Puzzlefeet called it right at the beginning.
There is a huge difference between doing a lot more (something McCain is proposing) and doing a “little bit more.”
Lumping them together to make a case for McCain’s stupidity is wrong.
I can understand why Clinton and Obama are for it. They’re fighting for that 38% that want a lot more.
It makes no sense for McCain to do the same.