Now this is clearly an example of not only a double standard, but that card played yet again. Good for one, bad for another.
Chief RZ - 05:03pm on 03/14/2008
But now that Obama’s reverend his screaming about “whitey” from his podium right up until this last Sunday suddenly a candidate’s religion isn’t relevant according to people like CNN’s own Anderson Cooper?
Uh....it’s not that his religion doesn’t matter, it’s does a single reverend who makes some silly statements matter? The answer is undeniably, no when it comes to Obama. It matters only to the person who is saying those things.
You keep acting like Obama is going to a church that condones racism, when in fact they talk about the abuse they suffered from racists. I still am waiting for one of you to explain why that this idiot pastor says is racist.
Also: Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith and what he says Reverend Al Sharpton said about it. Was it bigotry? And are evangelical voters intolerant when it comes to Mormons?
It is hard to gather context from this sentence, but I think we can say quite confidently that “voters” maybe intolerant of the Mormon religion. We certainly know you “voters” are intolerant of Obamas church. What is the difference?
If you are trying to state there is a double standard, there is not, because he is talking about both of them. Right?
Hannitized - 07:03pm on 03/14/2008
silly statements
Silly?
“America is still the No. 1 killer in the world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . We bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children while trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Ghadhafi . . . We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there. We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”
His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, “We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. . . . We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means. . . .”
Concluding, Mr. Wright said: “We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .”
Hannitized: Unless I am mistaken - and please feel free to correct me if I am - Rob is pointing out the utterly different, even contradictory comments which Anderson Cooper makes about the same subject - a candidate’s religious affiliation - at different times. I think Cooper’s hypocracy is pretty obvious, don’t you?
pparets - 07:03pm on 03/14/2008
Hannitized: Unless I am mistaken - and please feel free to correct me if I am - Rob is pointing out the utterly different, even contradictory comments which Anderson Cooper makes about the same subject— at different times.
pparets,
Same subject? I disagree.
Its seems to me that he is not posting what Cooper actually said about the “subject”, only that he said something after. The fact of the matter is, he spoke about Obamas issue, and he spoke about Romney’s issue.
The obvious difference being that Obama’s pastor isn’t a “religion”, he is a single man within a church, that church is one of Christianity. Had it been a church of another religion, such as Jehovas witness, it would then be a valid comparison.
Here’s what Rob didnt link to:
We begin with a new controversy on the campaign trail. That’s right, a new one.
At issue, Barack Obama’s pastor—this man—and the fiery remarks he has made. A tape of one of his sermons—you see it there—on Hillary Clinton is all over the Web, and tonight you will hear it for yourself. Is what he says over the top? Should it even matter in this presidential race?
Barack Obama has already distanced himself, in some ways, from the pastor, but he’s also called him a spiritual adviser. What you’re about to hear is inflammatory to some. To others, harsh as it sounds, it’s the truth. That’s for you to decide, along with whether you think it has any place at all in this campaign for either candidate.
COOPER: Roland, I want to read you something that a writer for “The Denver”—a columnist from “The Denver Post” said earlier this month.
He said—and I quote—“As Obama’s largest Recipient of charitable donations, Trinity United Church of Christ is more than a fleeting distraction in the candidate’s life. This is not guilt by association. Asking Obama to clarify his connection to Wright is neither slander nor innuendo, nor is it the right-wing ‘noise machine’ in action.”
Do you think this is a fair issue to raise with Obama?
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I think Cooper’s hypocracy is pretty obvious, don’t you?
There can not be hypocrisy, because he brought both of the issues up on television. Cooper noted that he felt this was off topic because were talking about his pastor, not his religeous affiliation. Make sense?
Rob likes to make the issue that his pastor is a racist. But it is not racist to talk about racism. It is not bigotry to talk about someone’s bigotry. As Romney and Sharpton said:
ROMNEY: Well, I—I can only, hearing that statement, wonder whether there’s not bigotry that still remains in America. That’s an extraordinary thing for someone to say. And I can’t imagine what prompted him to say something of that nature. It’s an extraordinarily bigoted kind of statement.
SHARPTON: If, prior to ‘65, ‘78, whenever it was, they did not see blacks as equal, I don’t believe that as real worshipers of God, because I don’t believe God distinguishes between people. That’s not bigotry. That is responding to their bigotry.
If it is racism to imply that people are bigoted, then Romney is a racist. Yes?
Now this is clearly an example of not only a double standard, but that card played yet again. Good for one, bad for another.
Uh....it’s not that his religion doesn’t matter, it’s does a single reverend who makes some silly statements matter? The answer is undeniably, no when it comes to Obama. It matters only to the person who is saying those things.
You keep acting like Obama is going to a church that condones racism, when in fact they talk about the abuse they suffered from racists. I still am waiting for one of you to explain why that this idiot pastor says is racist.
It is hard to gather context from this sentence, but I think we can say quite confidently that “voters” maybe intolerant of the Mormon religion. We certainly know you “voters” are intolerant of Obamas church. What is the difference?
If you are trying to state there is a double standard, there is not, because he is talking about both of them. Right?
Silly?
-Obama and the Minister I think a couple of those passed beyond silly.Hannitized: Unless I am mistaken - and please feel free to correct me if I am - Rob is pointing out the utterly different, even contradictory comments which Anderson Cooper makes about the same subject - a candidate’s religious affiliation - at different times. I think Cooper’s hypocracy is pretty obvious, don’t you?
pparets,
Same subject? I disagree.
Its seems to me that he is not posting what Cooper actually said about the “subject”, only that he said something after. The fact of the matter is, he spoke about Obamas issue, and he spoke about Romney’s issue.
The obvious difference being that Obama’s pastor isn’t a “religion”, he is a single man within a church, that church is one of Christianity. Had it been a church of another religion, such as Jehovas witness, it would then be a valid comparison.
Here’s what Rob didnt link to:
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There can not be hypocrisy, because he brought both of the issues up on television. Cooper noted that he felt this was off topic because were talking about his pastor, not his religeous affiliation. Make sense?
Rob likes to make the issue that his pastor is a racist. But it is not racist to talk about racism. It is not bigotry to talk about someone’s bigotry. As Romney and Sharpton said:
If it is racism to imply that people are bigoted, then Romney is a racist. Yes?