Now I hope the rest of the people who had to endure these vile creatures disrpting what should have been their time sue them too. And take every damn thing they’ve got.
But, hey, that’s just me.
Pilgrim - 02:10pm on 10/31/2007
Great verdict. I have witnessed their vileness while standing in flag lines at funerals. I agree everyone has the right to protest but there is a time and place for it, not at the funeral of a fallen soldier.
tom - 03:10pm on 10/31/2007
Tom, where you stand watch? I’m in PA, been toe to toe with this scumbag twice. He tried to have me PFAed and the Federal Judge in Pittsburgh smacked his ass down. I greatly enjoyed watching him stare at the floor and mumble till she ordered him to look up and speak clearly. What a fuckbag. He sends his daughter into PA now, he is scared we will have him arrested.
2Hotel9 - 03:10pm on 10/31/2007
Now we’re getting some place.
While the protesters were speaking out against exactly the type of thing the framers intended for them to have the right to do, there never was an intent to give anyone the right to disrupt privacy. There was also not an intent to allow vulgar or obscene language. In many democratic European countries, this is considered an assault punishable by fines and/or jail time.
The framers sought to guaranty political and religious freedom.
ews48 - 03:10pm on 10/31/2007
I hope the reason the jury took so long was deciding what to award as damages and not guilt. I also hope the punitive damages are equal to compensatory damages with a large positive exponent in this case, just to send a clear message.
spartacus - 03:10pm on 10/31/2007
I think that if they had kept it clean and done the protest properly, they would have been fine. But to be vulgar, loud and disrespectful really ended up putting the proverbial nails in the coffin. I think the fact that their vulgarity and disrespect was aimed at the soldier personally caused the final verdict.
Obviously, the guy and his family are a little twisted and are really misguided if they claim that they do it in the name of God.
They got their due. But I see it going on to the court of appeals and possibly on to the Supreme Court also.
donkephant - 04:10pm on 10/31/2007
Agreed, Donk, but this will send a clear warning to others of his ilk. Protest if you wish, but at the very scene of a funeral is off limits.
Pilgrim - 04:10pm on 10/31/2007
They got their due. But I see it going on to the court of appeals and possibly on to the Supreme Court also.
I really hope you’re right on that one Donk. I also hope the decision is supported all the way through the process just to clarify to those who seem to not understand that although speech is free, it’s often wiser to take a few minutes and think about what your message is and how you should present it.
spartacus - 04:10pm on 10/31/2007
I hate those effin “people”. Just hate them.
One quibble: What these pigs do is not “protest”.
It’s “demonstrate”. Their hatred. Their dark-heartedness. Their need for a thorough ass kicking.
“Protest” implies that they have some agenda beyond hating everyone who isn’t them.
rickinstl - 04:10pm on 10/31/2007
BTW, the jury just decided on the punitive, total loss for the clan is just under $11 million. I’d have liked to see it 2.9 to a minimum of the tenth power, but with the price of gas now-a-days this might slow them down..a little.
YES!!!!!!
Now I hope the rest of the people who had to endure these vile creatures disrpting what should have been their time sue them too. And take every damn thing they’ve got.
But, hey, that’s just me.
Great verdict. I have witnessed their vileness while standing in flag lines at funerals. I agree everyone has the right to protest but there is a time and place for it, not at the funeral of a fallen soldier.
Tom, where you stand watch? I’m in PA, been toe to toe with this scumbag twice. He tried to have me PFAed and the Federal Judge in Pittsburgh smacked his ass down. I greatly enjoyed watching him stare at the floor and mumble till she ordered him to look up and speak clearly. What a fuckbag. He sends his daughter into PA now, he is scared we will have him arrested.
Now we’re getting some place.
While the protesters were speaking out against exactly the type of thing the framers intended for them to have the right to do, there never was an intent to give anyone the right to disrupt privacy. There was also not an intent to allow vulgar or obscene language. In many democratic European countries, this is considered an assault punishable by fines and/or jail time.
The framers sought to guaranty political and religious freedom.
I hope the reason the jury took so long was deciding what to award as damages and not guilt. I also hope the punitive damages are equal to compensatory damages with a large positive exponent in this case, just to send a clear message.
I think that if they had kept it clean and done the protest properly, they would have been fine. But to be vulgar, loud and disrespectful really ended up putting the proverbial nails in the coffin. I think the fact that their vulgarity and disrespect was aimed at the soldier personally caused the final verdict.
Obviously, the guy and his family are a little twisted and are really misguided if they claim that they do it in the name of God.
They got their due. But I see it going on to the court of appeals and possibly on to the Supreme Court also.
Agreed, Donk, but this will send a clear warning to others of his ilk. Protest if you wish, but at the very scene of a funeral is off limits.
I really hope you’re right on that one Donk. I also hope the decision is supported all the way through the process just to clarify to those who seem to not understand that although speech is free, it’s often wiser to take a few minutes and think about what your message is and how you should present it.
I hate those effin “people”. Just hate them.
One quibble: What these pigs do is not “protest”.
It’s “demonstrate”. Their hatred. Their dark-heartedness. Their need for a thorough ass kicking.
“Protest” implies that they have some agenda beyond hating everyone who isn’t them.
BTW, the jury just decided on the punitive, total loss for the clan is just under $11 million. I’d have liked to see it 2.9 to a minimum of the tenth power, but with the price of gas now-a-days this might slow them down..a little.