Would You Have a Personal Computer Without Free Markets?
Posted: 15 May 2009 08:24 AM   [ Ignore ]
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/would_you_have_a_personal_comp.html

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“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

“The goal of socialism is communism.”

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ”

“Crime is a product of social excess”

“It is true that liberty is precious - so precious that it must be rationed”

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Posted: 15 May 2009 02:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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A related question:

Would you have a personal computer if there were no government at all?

Both are needed in the right doses.

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Posted: 15 May 2009 02:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Carrick has a point.  Free markets do not mean anarchy.  We do need the government to enforce things such as contracts.  A criminal code.  Property rights, both physical and intellectual.

That being said, what is accomplished through the drive of millions of people acting in their own self interest never ceases to amaze.

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Posted: 15 May 2009 07:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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In the first place, there is always some form of govt, since anarchy is a very temporary, even fleeting, phenomenon.
In my view, the same freedom to be creative that runs the free market also generates the money that pays for govt, since govt produces nothing, in terms of economic growth.
The existence of personal computers, as detailed in the linked article, is a result of a govt so limited that it can’t interfere with personal, individual creativity.
To sum up, govt is dependent on the creativity that invented and produced the personal computer, but the invention and production of the personal computer is not in any way dependent on any particular form of govt.

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“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

“The goal of socialism is communism.”

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ”

“Crime is a product of social excess”

“It is true that liberty is precious - so precious that it must be rationed”

  -Vladimir Lenin quotes (Russian Founder of the Russian Communist Party, leader of the Russian Revolution of 1917, 1870-1924)

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Posted: 17 May 2009 10:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Most technological development was financed by the federal government. The personal computer was heavily funded by government R&D spending.

As for the Soviets, they made it into space before us, their weaponry was more advanced and the were on par with most all of our technology, if not surpassed us. Their failure was no different than the failure of capitalism this last year. The difference is that capitalism never fails, it just pretends things are fine even when it collapses. The benchmark for capitalism’s success does not exist.

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Posted: 17 May 2009 10:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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“what is accomplished through the drive of millions of people acting in their own self interest never ceases to amaze.”

It amazes because it’s false. The accomplishments of this culture have been through the cooperation and working together of groups whether on the corporate or government level.

The results of radical self-interest are evident in the economic meltdown we’re experiencing. No rules, no ethics, just fuck anybody and everything over to get rich. That’s the republican way.

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Posted: 17 May 2009 10:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Dino, why produce anything if not for personal gain?

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Posted: 17 May 2009 10:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Uneducated little dino brings his lies to the Forum, I see.  The personal computer was an individual accomplishment, in search of profit, which pays for everything.  So-called “govt research” is funded by the private sector, through taxes, since the govt is a parasite on the private sector.
The economic crisis was a crisis of govt social engineering, not the free enterprise system, dumb little dino.
All economic failures are failures of wasteful govt spending.  When the greedy govt takes too much from the private sector, which is the source of all wealth, bad things happen.
It’s always the greedy, parasitic govt.

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“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

“The goal of socialism is communism.”

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ”

“Crime is a product of social excess”

“It is true that liberty is precious - so precious that it must be rationed”

  -Vladimir Lenin quotes (Russian Founder of the Russian Communist Party, leader of the Russian Revolution of 1917, 1870-1924)

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Posted: 17 May 2009 04:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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There’s personal enrichment and gain but your ideology has taken it to the extreme. Imagine if Salk had produced the polio vaccine today. Instead of giving it to society as he did, his research funder, let’s say Pfizer, would set up an IPO for a spin-off company. The vaccine would be produced by Pfizer with a shortage built in. It would cost $1000 a pop, more if you wanted it in America.

In fact, ALL of man’s advances are due to cooperation not competition. Competition inhibits innovation. Ask me how.

This is why I choose not to work with republicans. They’re supposed to work with others in the workplace but always end up thinking of how they can get ahead by any means possible. Oh, they kiss the bosses ass so long as they can, grabbing the credit, deflecting the blame. But always they’re seeking an angle on helping numero uno. They’d sell out the company for a shiny object.

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Posted: 17 May 2009 04:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Again, Dino, why would anyone produce anything if not for personal gain?

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Posted: 17 May 2009 04:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Again, little dino, you project your hatred, greed and violence on your betters.  Competition is good when the competitors have high standards of personal morality.  Vicious haters like you should be institutionalized, since your violent greed ruins everything you touch.
This is why JudeoChristian morality is essential to the unprecedented success of the free enterprise system, and the present leftie efforts to debauch those standards are responsible for the failures under this immoral President, whose economic greed is destroying record amounts of American wealth.  Again, the private sector, motivated by competion for profit, pays for everything.

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“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

“The goal of socialism is communism.”

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ”

“Crime is a product of social excess”

“It is true that liberty is precious - so precious that it must be rationed”

  -Vladimir Lenin quotes (Russian Founder of the Russian Communist Party, leader of the Russian Revolution of 1917, 1870-1924)

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Posted: 17 May 2009 04:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Competition establishes the best solution, then cooperation makes it widely available at a reasonable price.

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“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

“The goal of socialism is communism.”

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ”

“Crime is a product of social excess”

“It is true that liberty is precious - so precious that it must be rationed”

  -Vladimir Lenin quotes (Russian Founder of the Russian Communist Party, leader of the Russian Revolution of 1917, 1870-1924)

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Posted: 26 May 2009 10:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Hello everyone. Newbie here. In a perfect world we would take the best from all governments and maybe have something. Speaking of communism, Trudeau was a member of their party years ago. Look at our system now. With all the control the government has over our life, we are not far from it I feel. If the government had their way we would probally not be able to own a personal computer.

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Posted: 21 July 2009 11:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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