Say Anything Blog

Neiman:  Thank you. Coming from you, that is high praise indeed. I would be remiss if I didn’t say that I feel exactly the same way about you.

As to my banter with RBB: we both share a common trait… he’s crazy and I might be. 

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Whistler: You may need to go back and do a more accurate anaysis of the University of Missouri/David Konisky study:  After polling 1,000 respondents, this from Table 2:

Thinking about environmental issues X, how much effort do you think the government should put into addressing this issue?

Preventing the loss of the world’s tropical rain forests?  A LOT MORE: 36% MORE: 23%

Reducing emissions that contribute to global warming?
A LOT MORE: 38% MORE:  23%

Preserving damage to the ozone layer?
A LOT MORE: 35% MORE:  23%

Sure looks like a bunch of ferverant people to me. Doesn’t it to you?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

PParents:  Shame on you.  The first choice was “a lot more.” The second option which you merely said “more” is actually “a little bit more.”
Here’s the link for people to see it themselves.

Heck I think doing a little bit more research on switch grasses or putting in a few CFL’s in my house would probably be a good thing. 

Come on PP, you don’t have to resort to misleading people, particularly when you’re going to get called on it.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Whistler:  In every case, A LOT MORE was the largest percentile, followed by A LITTLE BIT MORE, the next largest percentile.  {My apology for not noticing the “A LITTLE BIT"]

However, there is no way to conclude that a majority of those polled are not concerned about the issues listed in Table 2.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Not noticing! baloney.

Meanwhile those 38% are hard core Dems for the most part.  Pandering to them is not going to work.

Now you could split the difference I guess, BUT McCain’s extremists cap and trade scheme which will double gasoline, electricity and natural gas isn’t the way to go.

Working on more research, switch grass, clean coal, might attract some of the “a little more” without driving away the people that actually HAVE principles.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

But hey if you want your candidate to address an environmental issue that people actually care about shouldn’t he go for the top of the list rather than the bottom?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Whistler:

Meanwhile those 38% are hard-core dems…

More inferred conclusions from the study?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

No I assumed that all by myself.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Hey here’s a feather in McCain’s cap:

HAVERFORD, Pa.—Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) praised Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for his willingness to break with his party on the issue of global climate change but insisted she would go further than her potential Republican presidential rival.

“I’ve actually worked with Senator McCain on this issue,” Clinton said in response to an audience question during an event on the grounds of Haverford College this afternoon. “I commend him for breaking ranks with Republicans [and] for even talking about this issue and taking it seriously.”

Clinton added that whereas McCain has said he would support the Kyoto international global warming treaty only if India and China also agreed to sign it, she would work to bring the countries together. “My attitude is let’s do it together,” Clinton said.

Any time you can please Hillary Clinton you know you’ve got your on the right track with Republicans. 

By the way I love it how she disagrees with McCain on Kyoto.  He’ll do it if China and India come in.  She disagrees and will talk to China and India to join her.

How are their positions different?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Remember, Whistler, that I never claimed that McCain was doing anything other than responding to a political reality, which, by the way, your own link confirms as valid.

Would I have advised him to do this? No.  But I fully understand why he’s doing it. 

What do you think is Bush’s reason for moving further to the center on this issue?  Why has Newt Gingrich taken up the cause? Why are most major corporations going ‘green’? Why have conservative fundamentalists embraced this?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Baloney, the study shows that 62% of the people say we should do little more or less.  That’s hardly an endorsement for his extreme cap and trade scheme. 

Let’s let the voters know that John McCain wants to increase the price of energy by 100% and take away 8% of what everyone has.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

What do you think is Bush’s reason for moving further to the center on this issue?  Why has Newt Gingrich taken up the cause? Why are most major corporations going ‘green’? Why have conservative fundamentalists embraced this?

Lemme guess...they’re all wimps?

Embracing a yet unproven theory to please their constituents or customers, which will end up costing the country untold woes.

What do you wanna bet, Newt is doing the low wire act above a Comfort Master mattress to situate himself for a run at the white house in the near future.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

Laydown:  Well, since corporations and conservative fundamentalists aren’t running for any office I know of, what’s your best guess on why they’re folding?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Apparently you’re having trouble comprehending, maybe you should read my post again.

Conservative fundamentalist? That’s a joke. If you’re taking about Newt, he’s willing to do (and say) anything to get back in some leading position in the beltway. Pat Robertson is a single issue moralist in the mold of Jon Kyl. I know you, must be thinking of that great conservative the right Rev. Alfred Charlie Sharpton.

Why do you think some small group of environmental activists are controlling the way we do business and how we operate within the confines of this terra firma?  Who put the cuffs on DDT and banished it forever to the clean rooms along with such real threats as small pox? If you think this was a majority of intelligent investigators, you’re living in the pirates cave at Disney World.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

No, Sally.  The religious right - as a group - conservative fundamentalist churches - have adopted a new environmental theology. Why?  That’s what I’m asking.

My question to you was not an effort to put you on the spot or creat some “Aha! Gotcha!”.

In spite of your cheap shots earlier: I don’t understand debate, my brain is under the influence of morpheus, etc: I generally respect your views.

If you would rather not engage in conversation, just say so.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

The same reason McCain has…they aint real conservatives. That and they’ve been bamboozled by a small group of activists. Remember conservatives THINK and liberals FEEL.

Ever hear the saying: You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

Individuals and corporations alike are led to the water by small groups of very loud people, the difference between these entities and the equine world is you can always make them drink… no matter how tainted or infested the supply.

When WalMart initiates a new “green” policy they do it for one of two reasons: it’s profitable or it improves on their tarnished image.

Why is Jesse Jackson able to extort millions from corporations with threats of boycotts, when these companies do much to be ‘inclusive’ of minorities within the ranks of their upper echelon of management?

Can you spell W-I-M-P-S.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

LDS:  Thanks for the lecture.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Just like always pparets,

You’ve already made your mind up…so why bother to discuss it.

And this:

I generally respect your views.

The kind of respect that enabled you to say during a previous thread, “ Thanks Sally for your unreasonable reason.”

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

pparets - Would you prefer McCain’s market-based approach on global warming or Mr. Obama’s mandates?

Neither.

You hold McCain’s feet to the fire on all of these issues.

McCain is toying with the idea of creating an economy that deals in a non-existent product. “Cap and trade”, sold as an “incentive”, is nothing more than wealth redistribution under the direction of meddling bureaucrats.

We as conservatives don’t have to accept any of McCain’s liberal solutions. No.

Fight for what you want, then take what you can get when you can get it. Oppose McCain on these issues.

Would The Best Thing For Republicans Be A Loss This Election Season?
... election-day losses for Republicans would be like “creative destruction” for the party.  ... I tend to agree, and have been saying as much since around the time Fred Thompson dropped out of the race.  The problem with the GOP right now is that the American people don’t trust Republicans.

Exactly Rob.

But there is a very good reason for this.  What better way to control government than announcing yourself part of the opposition and moving up the ranks, only to sabotage it from within?

You will have control of both political parties and any semblance of political choice for voters is completely illusory. I think this is what has been happening with the GOP/RNC.

So it is with McCain. 

While he may be slightly more conservative than the hyper-Leftists Hitlery and Obamination, at the end of the day he is still a Leftist carrying a stolen GOP membership card. 

He is not alone in that group known as Republicans in Name Only (RINO’s) who, in large part, ensured that Democrats had stealth control of Congress the entire time it was allegedly in the hands of Conservatives (Gang of 14 anyone? )

RINO’s can only function as long as constituents continue to reward fraud with reelection. 

I say fraud because if the Republican brand is supposed to stand for Conservative, Middle American values, a strong national defense, leaner, less-intrusive government, respect for religion, lower taxes and a vigorous defense of Constitutional Rights, the candidate runs on that ticket, but then turns around and casts his or her votes like a Leftist (cough-McCain-cough) then that is a form of fraud.

How we can ever make campaign lying an impeachable offense, subject to recall or even against the law is hard to imagine, as you would be asking Sen/Reps to confine themselves to the truth.  We’d probably have better luck asking Congress to take a voluntary pay cut.

At this point the Republican name brand has been sullied, not because they are too Conservative for America, as Leftists wonks will try to spin it, but because they have failed to live up to the Conservative promises made to that part of America which voted them in.

I think it is necessary that there be a Night of the Long Knives, a purge of the RINO’s to open up vacancies for the Conservatives to fill.  New folks who haven’t had their FBI files stolen by the Clinton White House Dirty Tricks team

...for great justice

The problem with the GOP right now is that the American people don’t trust Republicans

So we throw the entire Republican party under the bus because we don’t like McCain?  That borders on insanity as there are many conservative Republicans in Congress many of them from my state.  Really how many RINOs are in that contingent? 10 percent? 20 percent?  Don’t we owe the conservative Republicans our support?

And by the way, it wasn’t the Republican party that picked McCain.  It was the people who voted in the Republican primaries.

You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

Since the Republican Party has be declared DOA when does the new party forming begin??

I think it’s time.

the AVATAR
Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

LDS: 

Thanks for your unreasonable reason

Unless I am mistaken, that comment [which you took out of context] was accompanied by a smiley-face, indicating that it was a joke only.
If not, it should have been.

If I actually had any doubts about your ability to reason, I would have said so in clear, unmistakable terms.

You’ve already made your mind up.

That’s just crap. If I were one of those “don’t bother me with the facts” types who post here, I would still be mourning the loss of Rudy Guiliani and whining that ‘we are so screwed’, etc.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

DocDave:

It wasn’t the republican party that picked McCain, it was the people…

Exactly!  If nothing else has been demonstrated in this protracted primary season, one thing has.

It is the republicans who respect the will of the voters - free from sleezy caucus manuvering and free from the ‘super-delegate’ sham - which the democrats use to keep the unwashed masses under control.

The extreme left and the extreme right share a disdain for the people in general. They differ only in how best to get around them.

Likewise, It baffles me that not one ardent Fred Thompson supporter at SAB has seen fit to point out that Fred is now on the campaign trail with John McCain. Why is that?

In the event that McCain wins this election, I hope that Fred Thompson becomes a part of his government.
UN Ambassador or Director of the EPA comes to mind. Fred would drive the liberals crazy in either post with his dry, spot-on wit and ability to take them down.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Since the Republican Party has be declared DOA when does the new party forming begin??

Good luck on that. New parties have been tried without any measurable success.  Thirty or so years ago, the Libertarian party was formed to do that very thing and where are they now.  There waa also the Green and Constitution parties who also never got anywhere.  Face it, our country is addicted to the two party system.

You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

One obvious fact: As the Republican Party has moved to the Left, it has started to lose elections.  The solution should be apparent: move to the conservative side; give the voters a real choice; contrast what we stand for against what they stand for.  Not so complicated.  If McCain won’t do this, he’s not our man.

The secret of financial success:

If you can’t afford it, you don’t deserve it.  Even if you can afford it, that’s no reason to buy it.

.....he’s not our man.
robert108 on May 17, 2008 at 08:33 am

Time to start looking at your woman. Maybe she is the one.
Or take a second look at B. H. Obama.

Rob,
I applaud your bravery for telling the truth about the Republican party. Better watch your back.

Whatashitwad,

My guess is Rob can do without your endorsement.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry