Woman Faces Fines For Having Peace Sign Christmas Wreath

• November 27, 2006

My goodness but I hate these homeowner’s associations.

DENVER – A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti- Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan.
Some residents who have complained have children serving in Iraq, said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Linda Homeowners Association in Pagosa Springs. He said some residents have also believed it was a symbol of Satan. Three or four residents complained, he said.
“Somebody could put up signs that say drop bombs on Iraq. If you let one go up you have to let them all go up,” he said in a telephone interview Sunday.
Lisa Jensen said she wasn’t thinking of the war when she hung the wreath. She said, “Peace is way bigger than not being at war. This is a spiritual thing.”
Jensen, a past association president, calculates the fines will cost her about $1,000, and doubts they will be able to make her pay. But she said she’s not going to take it down until after Christmas.
“Now that it has come to this I feel I can’t get bullied,” she said. “What if they don’t like my Santa Claus.”

Good on her for not backing down. The people who are getting worked up over this sound like twits. Personally, I think the peace-sign-waving hippy generation is one of the worst things to ever happen to this country, but getting all up in arms over a peace sign on someone’s house is just plain un-American.
On a related note, I just don’t understand why anyone would buy a home in a neighborhood with a homeowner’s association. That seems like just inviting your nosy, picky asshole neighbors to start telling you how to do your yard and what signs you can put up on your house.

Tags: Cultural Marxism, Freedom Of Speech, Politics, War On Terror

http://www.MySpace.com/rubylightening Margie

Apartments are worse. Mine tells me I must have white drapes over the large patio windows so that everyones is uniform, quiet time begins at 10:30, if your kids come to see you, they must park two blocks away and walk, if they stay overnight they must have a pass obtained in advance on their windshields. We have been threated with eviction or having to chip in on the costs of clean up if a kid in our building marks on the hall walls. A few calls reassured me that they can’t do that, but I bet they try. I paid $125.00 to avoid my grand-daughter being towed away for parking in the wrong place. Don’t get many visitors anymore. I don’t approve of marking on the walls and believe in the “broken windows theory” but I won’t be responsible for what someone elses kid does.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

I just don’t understand why anyone would buy a home in a neighborhood with a homeowner’s association.

I agree, in principle! I have seen HA’s that quibbled over whether someone’s paint was eggshell or antique white, lawsuits over replacing one’s roof with something more fire retardant than wood shake. One poor fellow in Sacramento ran afoul of his homeowner’s association for flying the American flag, because it violated the “earth tone colors” of his HA.

Nonetheless, last year I moved into such a neighborhood. I have not yet run afoul of the Picayune Patrols, possibly because we have similar tastes. However, I can see the necessity for such rules in cases where, what attracts you to a neighborhood is a certain look or ambiance. You make a sizeable investment in the real estate and then one or more of your neighbors deviates from the standard with questionable taste.

The aesthetic of a neighborhood can translate into monetary advantage or harm. This is my “investment” house. When I retire, I’ll move, stick my flag, wreath and dead Santa display where ever I please. Until then, I’ll follow the (sometimes stupid) rules.
HG

Appearantly the ‘peace’ symbol bears a striking resemblence to ‘Nero’s cross’. That is the offensive symbol these Christians are objecting to.

Personally, I see the striking resemblence to..
“The Footprint of the American Chicken”.

So if these anti-war kooks wish to display their cowardice by branding their front doors with such an appropriate symbol, have at it.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

Jeff: Just between you, me and the fence post, I don’t think the objections to the American flag I mentioned were really over the color scheme…but I see your point.
robert108

PE: Of course, your point is that it’s a matter of personal choice, right? You do a cost/benefit calculation, and then make your housing decision. I don’t like HAs, either, but no one is forcing me to live in such a place. If I thought the advantages of living in such a place outweighed the disadvantages, I would make that choice. Not all that complicated, but then I’m not much of a “victim”.
http://www.MySpace.com/rubylightening Margie

Hear, hear, children! Noone likes war, blood, or death, but sometimes it is necessary to self-preservation and the ideals we live by. Not agreeing with a paticular war and the necessity for it does not make one a coward or not a patriot. Sometimes the essense of patriotism is daring to disagree when you feel your country is headed down a wrong path that will harm it. Nor is a person who sincerely believes that a war is necessary in his country’s interests a bloodthirsty warmonger who just takes pleasure in violence. There is room for all kinds of opinions in this country and civil debate is good, name calling is not.
GroovyPKP

Any of those H.A. morons ever heard of just plain ol’ “peace on earth?” Nothin’ but brotherly love behind that statement, man. Groovy.
Jeff P

In response to Proofreader emeritus, the complaints were because some people had children in Iraq, and others thought it was a symbol of Satan.. Not because of aesthetics.
I bet people besides Ms Jensen have wreaths out for Christmas in that neighborhood. It seems that those idiots would want peace because it would mean their kids could come home. Bob Kearns is a retard as well. What’s wrong with people these days? :/ I’d go to jail before I’d ever pay that fine.
Meg Brizzolara

Anyone know where I can buy one of those Peace Symbol Xmas wreaths to give to the HA pres down the street?
HG

Not agreeing with a paticular war and the necessity for it does not make one a coward or not a patriot.

It does in this case (see Bat One’s post above).
robert108

Margie: What the lefties call “dissent” is in reality propaganda and undermining of the fundamental principles of this country. That is the difference. It is unpatriotic to support those who would destroy your country.
Bat One

Meg,

Contrary to your snide implication, the truth is that America’s professional military people do not “LIKE” war and killing and death.

On the other hand, the radical Islamists that make up such groups as al-Qaeda, Hamas, al-Fatah, the Islamic Brotherhood, Abu-Sayef, Hezbollah, and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, et al, are eager to kill anyone, man, woman, or child, who is not a true believer, and equally anxious to martyr themselves in the process.

And those who believe that this country’s best and wisest course of action against such murderous determination is to sit down and negotiate and demonstrate our patient good will and an abject willingness to accommodate those who would destroy us, those people are not only world-class fools, but a “clear and present danger” to the rest of us.

Have a nice day!
HG

I wonder what they call this bloodthirsty disorder?

Defending Liberty.

We wouldn’t have America and the rights she secures without war and death.
robert108

Margie: Where do you get the information you are putting out? It has been proven that at least some of the reports of Shiites burning Sunnis are fabricated; we can only guess how much other info we are being fed is also false. BTW, to compare the terrorists in any way to our Revolutionary War is completely offensive to this American! For someone who claims not to be influenced by the MSM, you somehow parrot all their lies about the war.
http://www.MySpace.com/rubylightening Margie

In that confusing mess, we can not even idenify the enemy! The Shitte soldier standing next to you, that you just finished training is probably going to turn his weapon on you when he gets through torturing and killing all the Sunnis he and his buddies get hold of after dark. You can’t annihilate a whole religious culture. We are no safer now than we ever were, which in gorrilla warfare is never, regardless of what you do. The British hated that we refused to stand in neat little lines and be mowed down in proper fashion.We won despite our “dishonorable” tactics of hiding behind trees and doing the mowing. So we deplore their tactics, rightly so, because of a disregard for civilians, but we certainly can’t question the fact that we have no real defense againt them, despite our superior fire power. Engaging in this war is getting us nowhere.
Bat One

What the lefties call “dissent” is in reality propaganda and undermining of the fundamental principles of this country.

Robert108,

When the “lefties” do it, they do not call it dissent. The current imaginative buzz word/phrase is “speaking truth to power.” Which merely proves that even horse shit can appear to be imaginative.
HG

Margie,

Your line “We are no safer now than we ever were” is simply crap. Anyone can see we haven’t been attacked. We know where the enemy is hiding. We let them go half of the time to protect a mosque, cemetary, residential complex, or some other ‘safe’. This is war, not hide-and-go-seek for cryin’ out loud! We could kill a lot more of them if we simply had the will to do so. We don’t have the will becausse of anti-war propaganda has clouded the thinking of some.
robert108

Ever heard or compromise?

Yes. In war, it is also called defeat. The French are very good at it.
Victory requires unbending commitment, especially when the enemy has unbending intent to kill/subjugate us. Wake up!
HG

There is more than one way to skin a cat, such as using those troops to install tighter security around nuclear plants and ports and on the borders.

In war, the best defense is not just to defend. Annihilating the enemy needs to be our #1 priority. In so doing we will deter terrorists — they can’t attack when they are in hiding, being hunted, and being slain.
Meg Brizzolara

You mean, there are people who actually LIKE war?? And Death? And see it as cowardice if they don’t want their children to die for Haliburton? I wonder what they call this bloodthirsty disorder?
http://www.MySpace.com/rubylightening Margie

You are confusing opinion with fact, Robert, everyone has one. One attack inside our borders five years ago does not seem to many the doomsday senerio that it does to you, nor does our presence in Iraq while the Shiites and Sunnis battle it out for supremacy seem like a necessity to some. There is more than one way to skin a cat, such as using those troops to install tighter security around nuclear plants and ports and on the borders. Unbending, rufusal to consider any view but your own leads to hardening of mistakes that with discourse can be corrected. Ever heard or compromise? Bushs unbending refusal to consider any information he did not want to hear, listen to any opinion other than his own or even consider for a moment that he might be wrong about something has alienated most of Americans, even many Republicans. Evidently, Democrats are supposed to go along with whatever the conservatives think, without thought or argument or they are traitors. How stupid and un-American is that?
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

Leave the French out of it.

!!! The French are Appeasers-in-Chief and yet that doesn’t exempt them from rioting and near civil war from the enemy within.

The French people didn’t want a war.

and yet, they’ve got one!

Big deal. Maybe they don’t think the danger’s that great. And is it? Do you really think our whole civilisation is under threat? And hasn’t this war just fanned the flames of anti-Western, anti-American sentiment?

The fact that the French opted out of the Iraqi conflict did not make them less of a target for the Islamic faction in their own country.

Yes! Perhaps our whole civilisation is under threat!
robert108

PE: Those who doubt that violent Islam is a threat to our civilization should go to the “Islamic Violence in Thailand” thread in the reader blogs. None of the “reasons” popularly given to excuse Islamic violence are present there, and yet the violence is the same as it is in Iraq, France and England, to use a few examples. Check it out.
calmdown, USA

Leave the French out of it. Lame xenophobia, nothing more. Did it occur to you that maybe France has a reason for disliking pre-emptive invasions? Such as, they suffered one? The Great War was also fought on the fields of France. Perhaps you might show a little understanding for a nation that went through two wars on its own soil. The French people didn’t want a war. Big deal. Maybe they don’t think the danger’s that great. And is it? Do you really think our whole civilisation is under threat? And hasn’t this war just fanned the flames of anti-Western, anti-American sentiment?
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

This just doesn’t seem consistant with the whole ‘land of the free’ thing. I know I will never live in close enough proximity to large quantities of other people so that I have to: paint my house a certain color, have white drapes, be quiet at 10.30pm, or not sit on my porch naked doing target practice at 10.30am. God bless the rural woods.

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