Woman Being Stalked Thanks To Newspaper Disclosing Gun Owner Addresses

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Putnam County Clerk Dennis Sant, who is refusing to go along with requests for gun owner data from a newspaper that has already put the home address of tens of thousands of gun owners online, told reporters today that a retired law enforcement officer and a woman who has been the victim of stalking in the past have both been put in danger by the disclosure (via Gateway Pundit).

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“This one narcotics officer from Westchester County just retired. Dedicated his whole career to protecting the citizens of Westchester County and they can’t protect him now. He said I’ve never been so fearful for the safety of my family… This one lady whose been stalked for years in West Chester County. She finally found peace, two years without the stalker contacting her. Two days after that paper released her information she gets hangups all night long. She lives in fear, her and her three daughters.”

The assault on the privacy of these law-abiding citizens, in the name of the liberal media’s anti-gun agenda, is nothing short of tragic. But nearly as tragic is the damage this does to the cause of open government.

I am an outspoken advocate for government transparency, but when news outlets abuse open records laws in this fashion, they give government an excuse to close records off to public scrutiny.

In this instance, I think the government is right to keep the home addresses of gun owners private, but you can be certain that governments across the country will be quick to use this debacle as an excuse to close off other records in the name of public safety.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • mickey_moussaoui

    oooooo, the silent phone stalker….scarry. Obviously it’s part of the war on woman from the NRA, Tea Party or maybe even George Bush himself.
    I get “dead-air” phone calls at least 4 times a week and all this time I just thought it was crappy service. Now I live in fear.

    • Bat One

      Mickey, A big dog and a few guns and you’ll never have to live in fear again. Incidentally, the firearms aren’t for protection as much as to finish off what’s left after the dog gets gets tired.

      • slackwarerobert

        Gee, why have they never published who and where the pit bulls are? But as long as you finish them off so they don’t sue your dogs, I have no problem with them missing parts out of their neck. I also have a cat that will rip open a jugular and eats faces. It knows that flesh is the only thing you attack, so goes right by clothing, and from long training sessions, it learned that faces are unprotected more than any other place on the body.

      • Stephen Zeigler

        I usually let the smaller pit have whats left….

    • slackwarerobert

      I thought the NRA loved for women to carry? How is that a war? But I would look closer to the current tyrant occupier for the dead air calls. Remember he is wiretapping everyone without warrants and killing US citizens with WMD’s. Sort of iran’s imanutjob with a tan.

    • Stephen Zeigler

      no mickey..it’s just bad phone service………have fun with it…..if it’s a stalker…Get some old Boris Karloft movies and record the screems, are my favorite….in Young Frankinstein…..”It’s Alive” play that for them…..or more up to date those movies about …I know what you did last summer…has to be a few good lines in that.

      • Stephen Zeigler

        what’s that movie….ate somebody..had wine with farber beans….hisssss….that should make anyone calling you think your more nuts then they are….

  • mikemc1970

    Poor leftist journalistic hacks. Don’t they realize it is very difficult to bully a gun owner, let alone a CC license holder? Which is the reason the left wants American citizens disarmed. A cowed public dependent on the government for protection is more likely to suffer any tyranny in order to maintain that protection.

    • borborygmi

      It is difficult to bully a gun owner ……Why is everyone upset about the release of names then. THey are gun owners so they are safe, right? People put signs in their windows, ‘member of the NRA, Protected by Smith and Wesson etc. . What is the hullaballoo about then?

      • mikemc1970

        Being worried or frightened that you’ll have to fight off an attack caused by some imbecile yellow “journalists” doesn’t mean you’ll cave to their bullying tactics. I’m not surprised you don’t understand the difference.

      • donwalk

        By posting the list of gun owners they are also revealing those who don’t own guns, thus jeopardizing their families also. Is there anything you do understand? Of course, those families without guns can always dial 911 and wait – just like those in Newtown did for eleven minutes. Eleven minutes and 26 murdered individuals.

      • slackwarerobert

        No, there are lots of gun owners who don’t keep them on themselves. It is difficult to bully a gun carrier though. Then you have nut places like NYC that don’t let you have enough bullets to get the job done right the first time. Don’t let you use armor piercing rounds, even though all the latest nuts were using body armor. I keep a 30 round mag of them just in case someone is breaking in the door yelling police. Since there is no LEGAL way for them to be breaking in, I shoot the crooks wearing armor through the door.

      • Stephen Zeigler

        There’s a woman gun owner, which as required by law had to leave her weapon in the car to enter a resturaunt. A man drove the window with his car, got out and shot and killed a number of people. Her mother and father were two of the people killed. It’s on youtube, her talking with our US Congress on what had happen.
        Owning a gun does not make you safe, it gives you a chance to fight back, to defend yourself. If one owns a gun and it’s not loaded, you might as well throw at the perk. If the bad guy gets the jump on you it’s a little to late to say…hey let me run back into the house and grab my .357.
        BorBor….you like so many others….it’s not the gun….really stop thinking in terms like that….congress wants to control you ….me and anyone else it can. If gun control worked, England would be a shining example. It’s not the facts do not support it.
        There are many cases where people with guns have stopped a robbery or attempts to kill children at schools. You have to look to find these stories as our liberal media does not want you to know the real facts. Try going to the website for the NRA, read some of their facts, open your mind. You may not want to believe it….but we are safer with more guns. The facts do support that statement.

  • borborygmi

    Isn’t that the same taking the good with the bad when it comes to freedom and transparency. You have free speech and some idiot is going to say something hateful. You have public information well …..its public.

    • Stephen Zeigler

      we do have FREE speech ? You might want to think that one over….try going into a police station and telling them it’s hold up….free speech …right….use the “n” word down in the getto…see where you end up…..but I jest. Some info should be know to the public, as how much taxes did the major’s brother pay in city taxes after he got that million dollar contract.

  • Snarkie

    The whole complaining victim thing has worked so well for you.

    Best of luck.

    • Onslaught1066

      Sez the crybaby who whined about his sick wife, and it all being Bush’s fault.

      Poor Butfuckle

  • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

    Rob, how do you feel about on-line websites being used to stalk people, like SAB for instance?

    • Spartacus

      If you’d quit stalking Proof you wouldn’t be able to make that association.

      • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

        10 X! That boy’s got more projection than a multiplex!

    • guest

      How do you feel about a short little narcissist’s willingly furnishing personal information over websites, like SAB, then complaining about all the attention he gets after begging for it?

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      How is SAB being used to stalk you? You made your info publicly available here, not me. That other people took advantage of.it isnt my problem.

      • Bat One

        S M A C K !!!

        • Spartacus

          Yup. An ass gets introduced to Robs foot. Laughter will ensue.

      • Spartacus

        Hmm… no reply. The water must be cold around Hawaii today subjecting wee willie to experience unforeseen shrinkage.

        • LastBestHope

          The Top Commenter on SAB was only here on his lunch break. He’s now way too busy to post, as he has to visit “many military bases every day.”

          • Spartacus

            Okay. He finally had to go back to work after a seven year lunch break. Yeah, that’s the ticket!

        • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

          On another thread he said he wears 6mm rubbers. Funny what a dose of Viagra and staring at my screen name all day long can do for the boy!

        • slackwarerobert

          Nothing wrong with keeping a small target profile. If they can’t see it, they can’t shoot it off.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        Uh, that’s not true. What’s happened is your SAB conservatives did all their stalking and published it here. What’s been made available is people who post their real names and facebook links to their discus handle. I haven’t done that.

        But by your standards it’s ok to pull that stuff up and use it, yes?

        • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

          You always were the biggest hypocrite, Tiny Sociopath. You put up your own pictures. You linked to your own name. Then you pretend that you are a victim, and then stalk other people. Typical POS hypocrite. (Well, except for the part about you being able to walk under closed doors without ducking your head. )

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Rob just defined the rules. If posting your name and a link to Facebook is his standard, then there it is. I never posted my linked info, and I never posted my Facebook info, but Rob allowed it to be used. So, there it is. Nothing hypocritical about it.

            So if that’s the standard, then there’s plenty more where that came from.

          • LenYol

            Oh look, short little hanni spending another night alone typing with one hand.in search of attention.

          • Carl

            Why don’t you run your mouth again about that crappy surfing video that list’s your name, willie bonilla? Then you can run your mouth again about where you work and how important you think you are.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “there’s plenty more where that came from”

            Threats, Tiny Hanni? You always were the biggest hypocrite, Tiny Sociopath. You whine that this site somehow “victimizes” you, that’s why it’s your first stop every morning and your last stop every night…often with hours of nattering bits of nothing in between. Right!

            You blather on about everyone’s “sockpuppets”, a) not having the slightest clue if it is true or not and b) guilty of having more sockpuppets here than anyone evah! (No hypocrisy there! /sarc)

            You accuse other people of stalking you, even though it has been proven that you not only stalked me, searching my screen name from your company’s ISP and even going so far as impersonating me on another site (One that we know of!) And now it appears that you are stalking other people as well.

            You call people names and then whine that people call names rather than debate. You complain about stalking, mostly imagined and feel justified in doing the same to others. You post literally dozens of photos of yourself, your house, your dog, your magic necklace, your belt buckle, your surfboards, your toys, a link to a video with your name on it, when no one else does, and then you wonder why people call you a “narcissist”? Please!

            If you want to discuss politics on a political blog, please feel free to do so. But, as we see here once again, you are trying to make this entire thread about you, Tiny Narcissist. And if you continue to stalk people, it will be to keep the threads all about you.

            Please seek professional psychiatric help. If you were only to commit yourself for an evaluation, I’m sure you could get the help you need.

            If you want to blog about yourself 100% of the time, knock yourself out! Start your own blog or a reader blog. Blog about what a good looking, studly surfer you are, all the time. Just don’t do it here. Please, let the adults talk about the important stuff here uninterrupted.

          • LastBestHope

            Sadly, even a good blog is like a public restroom at the bus station. Ew-ew that smell, can’t stop the clientele.
            Hanni is phantom of the stalls, posting here almost 16,000 times. (++ more when he goes guest/sockpuppet mode)

            I’d guess no good male role models growing up, so he copied the movie/TV guys he watched, who were all metro low T types.

            and the result is….

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            16,000 of just that one screen name. I suspect the real number is at least 3X that. He resides in Hawaii, but he lives on this blog.

          • $16179444

            bang…..may want to look into some burn creme after that Hanni.

          • $16179444

            hey doorknob – you DO realize that there are ways to surf the internet and stay private right? you DO realize that social sites like FB have settings to limit what content is seen and who sees it?

          • Carl

            You do realize that if hanni, Rob’s little pet troll, put limits on his exposure on social web sites and the internet, he wouldn’t get the level of attention he so desperately craves and needs.

            Trust me, even though he plays the sissy victim role, he doesn’t mind at all that everyone squats over his face and craps, he loves it, he needs it, he wants it.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Do people still say doorknob? That’s about right for an old tubby who cycles but pretends to surf.

            My FB information was always private, you idiotic twit. They don’t just stalk me, they stalk anyone associated to me. By SAB rules that means since you posted your FB information they that Rochelle is fair game as well. But you’ll notice liberals don’t do that.

            The stalking is the last resort of people who can’t win a debate. That’s why you see so much vitriol and hatred. You guys can’t stand having your ass handed to you on a daily basis.

            Get it right, Tubby, or just listen and learn.

            LOL.

          • guest

            Do liberals still use the word “derp?” Of course they do.
            You love being crapped on every day, you need it, you want it. It’s the only attention you get. That’s why you’re here first thing in the morning, last thing at night, and usually all day long.
            BTW, your FB wasn’t always private, try to stop lying, as hard as it may be.

          • Kris

            If your FB was private, how can you claim people were able to get your information and/or contact your “friends?”

          • $16179444

            oops, now what Hanni?

          • $16179444

            tubby? look at Mr. Internet Tough Guy! go away son, you’re trying to mix it up with adults and failing miserably.

        • $16179444

          doesn’t bother me one bit – you like my picture? i posted it knowing full well that its open to the public — damn, i’m good looking.

          • Hal637

            He won’t post his own picture anymore. After talking about what a stud he thought he was, he was exposed as a little man and a fraud.

          • $16179444

            a thumbs down vote Hanni? ah, poor widdle fella is jealous!

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          I haven’t provided any information on anyone who uses SAB. If they identified you, they did so based on information you provided.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            What you did was allow people to post information they searched out, which was never made available here.

            That’s the policy you set, so everyone else is fair game. Therefore, it’s rather odd that you would be whining about public information being posted.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        The SAB conservatives use the internet to stalk information not just about me, but anyone associated with me and then they stalk them. How does that make sense in your tubby brain?

        • guest

          As Carl said above:

          “Why don’t you run your mouth again about that crappy surfing video that list’s your name, willie bonilla? Then you can run your mouth again about where you work and how important you think you are.”

          • ellinas1

            Happy New Year, harpy.

          • guest

            Happy New Year, goat fuc*er.

          • ellinas1

            Happy New Year, harpy.

        • donwalk

          You were politely asked a question earlier, why not answer it?

          “If your FB was private, how can you claim people were able to get your information and/or contact your “friends?”
          You are increasing the concerns about FB privacy for numerous readers and we would like to know from an expert on how stalkers are obtaining the information from FB.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Nobody cares about the privacy of others on SAB, why should I care about yours? If you don’t know how to secure your stuff, that’s on you.

            Unless Rob starts enforcing some rules he’s opening you up.

          • Onslaught1066

            I know you don’t, what was the name of that lady you were libeling by implying she was a friend of yours that Proof got deleted from your posts after she stated she did not wish to be associated in any way with you?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You mean the one that asked me recently if she could publish our shows on a website? Yeah, you’re a liar and idiot just like the rest of the stalkers.

          • Onslaught1066

            Not your Mylarsian, the real woman who wants nothing to do with you.

            [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/59qpy.jpg[/IMG]

          • LastBestHope

            Hanni’s soul mate.

          • Onslaught1066

            More like sole mate.

          • Hal513

            “You mean the one that asked me recently if she could publish our shows on a website?”

            Didn’t the Howdy Doody show go off the air, or are you painting frekles on your face and bringing it back?

          • donwalk

            You answered exactly the way I figured you would, i.e. fail to answer the question because your accusations of having your private info disclosed on FB doesn’t jive with your claim that you had everything on your FB classified as “private.”

            Subject: [ndsayanything] Re: Woman Being Stalked Thanks To Newspaper Disclosing Gun Owner Addresses

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I can’t fix your stupid. I can only give you data. If you don’t know how FB works, it’s not up to me to explain it to you. I’m not on Rob’s FB, but I can see every single person on his friends list.

            You will notice I don’t go around posting their pictures on SAB.

          • LastBestHope

            For the love of God…stfu already about your phony claims of victimization. You should be paying Rob rent for living on his blog.

          • Hal513

            ” I’m not on Rob’s FB, but I can see every single person on his friends list”

            Please let us know if Rob’s FB is in “private” mode or not. And please, try not to whine so much.

          • donwalk

            So now you are claiming that your own friends gave out private information on yourself? Nice friends you have there Hannitized – all 2 of them.

            Subject: [ndsayanything] Re: Woman Being Stalked Thanks To Newspaper Disclosing Gun Owner Addresses

          • Hal513

            If you don’t know how to secure your stuff, that’s on you. But you don’t want your “stuff” secured.

        • $16179444

          um, didn’t you DO THE SAME THING when you posted my picture? LOL – you’re an epic failure kid

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            LOL, you didn’t even understand that changed when Rob indicated that’s policy for SAB. Up until Rob defined what is considered to be “posted”, you were just a fat slob living in Bend Oregon, anonymously. Now every one knows you a slug, tubby.

            Now they can post pictures of your friends and family.

          • Onslaught1066

            But seeing as how he is not a reprehensible POS asking to be dumped on, it is a pretty slim bet that this will happen… Unless you are contemplating changing your handle to “Hanni boo boo, Marks Stalker”.

    • $16179444

      LOL – you are THE stupidest person on the internet. and of course you NEVER answered Rob’s inquiry.

      • Stan

        The dumbest guy on the Internet:

        • LenYol

          And here’s hanni using someone else’s name to hide behind. hanni, you’re just a punk ass pussy.

        • guest

          And here’s little hanni using someone elses name, again.

        • $16179444

          at least get a sack and post under your real ‘handle’

    • slackwarerobert

      So what, you shoot stalkers like any other threat. Why aren’t you carrying 24/7 already?

  • Waski_the_Squirrel

    Transparency is for government, not private citizens. Transparency is publishing minutes of meetings and making the bill available. Transparency is not identifying which private citizens own guns. Transparency also does not mean publishing what I pay in taxes or what my house is worth.

    We should always strive to protect the information of our citizens.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      I agree, though I’d point out that property tax records are public.

  • $16179444

    can we not then post the names and addresses of people who have had an abortion?

  • BLD

    Just because the newspaper can legally do this, it doesn’t follow that the newspaper should have done this. It seems the newspaper is doing its part to “villify” legal gun owners. Nothing like using the First Amendmemt to subvert the Second Amendment.

    • slackwarerobert

      Although I would love the names and addresses of the people who denied someone a permit. That would be more useful info, as it would show a pattern of who is denying rights.

  • slackwarerobert

    The way you stop them is you make them file a specific FOI for every gun owner by name. They would have to ask for the permit for each person by name, and pay for the info.

    But I hope this proves what I have been telling my 3 washington scumbags. They can’t give the paper the info if you don’t register the guns in the first place. But NY is a very bad situation, because they don’t let you take your gun with you when you leave the house, so once you go to work they know the gun is there unprotected.

  • slackwarerobert

    Has anyone checked if the armed guards the paper hired have their name and address printed on the web page?

    • Bat One

      Ann Coulter has suggested publishing the names of women who have abortions. Kinda makes sense, since although the right to keep and bear arms is explicit in the Constitution, the right to “privacy” from which the Roe decision flows peaks out, sort of, from behind an imaginary penumbra.

  • code4blue

    True story. For nearly five years I worked with Peggy from an adjoining shipping company. She and I would work the late shift each week the vessels arrived and we usually didn’t leave until around two or three in the morning when the ships departed. She carried a Coach purse, for those of you who don’t know it is one of the most expensive hand bags made. One morning, around 2:30 am we were walking to our car when a man approached us with a knife and demanded our purses! Being frightened by this I was more than willing to hand over my purse when Peggy touching my arm slightly puts her hand inside her purse loads a round in the chamber and says to the man with the knife, “if you want my purse come and get it!” Realizing she had a gun this guy sprinted out of sight. I was shocked because I worked with her for five years and had no idea she carried. I was so impressed how composed she was. That night I went home and told my husband I wanted a gun! Since that time Peggy and I go to the gun range on a regular basis and I have a CCL. On February 10th 2013 my daughter and granddaughter will be going for their CCL. For Christmas I bought them both purses made with pouches for carrying their weapons. Never in my wildest dreams growing up in America that I thought it would be so critical as a woman to be able to defend yourself.

    • slackwarerobert

      Your friend needs to have her head examined. You don’t load the gun when you need it, you load the gun at home as soon as you finish cleaning it. Chambered round for a semi.

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