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What is the point of identifying Alex Jones as a ‘Ron Paul buddy’?  Ron Paul does NOT, and has stated that he does NOT, believe that 9/11 was arranged or ‘allowed to happen’ by the the Bush Administration or the US Government. Just because he talks or listens to Alex Jones does not make him a so-called ‘truther’.

Then perhaps he should openly distance himself from Alex Jones and the other wackjobs spewing this stupidity. Ya think?

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Willie smokes so much dope that it’s hard to take anything he says seriously.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Man, think about what moniker you are giving to people that believe 9/11 was a staged event by a shadow government: “Truthers”. Are you afraid of the truth? Would you have to reevaluate your life? Is that uncomfortable for you?

Willie’s got it right.  The truth hurts.

What is the point of identifying Alex Jones as a ‘Ron Paul buddy’?  Ron Paul does NOT, and has stated that he does NOT, believe that 9/11 was arranged or ‘allowed to happen’ by the the Bush Administration or the US Government. Just because he talks or listens to Alex Jones does not make him a so-called ‘truther’.

I didn’t say Ron Paul was a truther, I said Ron Paul was Alex Jone’s “buddy.” And in that, I’m not wrong.

Of course, Ron Paul isn’t exactly above pandering to to truthers either.

Are you afraid of the truth?

No, but the morons behind the 9/11 “truth” movement are.

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

Willie is a great singer/song writer.  One of the best ever, but on this he’s dead wrong.

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

it’s alright to be scared of the truthers.  No one said you had to believe what willie and alex were saying.  just go back to sleep and pretend you didn’t hear it and you’ll be fine.  go watch fox news and they will set you striaght, they’ll give you all the facts you need to know.

Not that any level of fact and reason will penetrate your cloud of conspiracy, but a lot of very smart and very independent people have reviewed the 9/11 attacks and concluded that they were what they were: Terrorist attacks.

Plus, common sense tells us that massive conspiracies (of the size that would have to exist to pull off something like 9/11) don’t survive.  Especially not with the level of scrutiny applied to 9/11.

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

got two words for ya!!  GOOGLE THERMITE!!!!

go watch fox news and they will set you straight (sic), they’ll give you all the facts you need to know

Don’t be silly, Fox News don’t deal in facts.

Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

You’ll live to see the real story of 9/11 exposed to the light of day.

“In the beginning a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared and scorned. But in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be patriot.”

-Mark Twain

You’ll live to see the real story of 9/11 exposed to the light of day.

I already has been; I’ve got the video.  You’re in denial of an obvious truth.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

homegrown? You obviously smoke too much of your crop. And I don’t need to google thermite, I know quite a bit about it, just as I know quite a bit about demolition work and explosives employment. No, the question of the moment is"Where are all those people?”. Got an answer, moron?

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Rob:
I hope your ignorance is blissful, sadly,it’s all you have. I’m a Conservative/Biblebelter that also enjoyed my “bliss” until I did just a small amount of research on 9-11. Believe me, I wish what Willie said was not true, sadly it is VERY true! If you think only kooks believe this take 10 minutes and go to http://www.patriotsquestion911.com Willie, like millions of Americans, has joined the ranks of “conspiracy theorists” like Copernicus when he said the Earth was not the center of the universe.

Where are all those people? Are you telling us that the USG vanished them? And then vanished all the people involved in the operation? Then vanished all the people involved in vanishing all those people?

You need to back off the dosage or double it. You are seriously screwed up.

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Speaking of smoking some bad dope, anyone who still defends the spoon fed ‘official’ fairy tale of that day has to be the dumbest, most naïve fucking inbred this fluoride drinking nation has left to offer… I mean my God there has never even been an indictment of Bin Laden!!!  They fucking left the CIA media division logo in the corner of one of his ‘authentic’ videos!  Our own FBI’s Chief of Investigative Publicity Rex Tomb said word for fucking word “The FBI has no hard evidence connecting Osama Bin Laden to 9/11.”!  I’m sorry but you have to be serious fucking impaired to still believe this shit.  If you can’t figure it out just go run back to your cable news (oh right this was on ABC LOL…), well turn to FOX News, keep smoking crack and I’ll see you in the fucking draft!

Hotel:
“Where are these people?” You are the one that need to back off the crack pipe. Let’s start over again: http://www.patriotsquestion911.com. Are you literate enough to read? I guess poor Truman asked the same stupid question...."where are all these people that created the A-Bomb” when FDR died. Grow up you idiot!

Just answer the question. Where are all those people?

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Hotel you are really stuck on what happened to the people who ran 9/11?  Over 130,000 people were involved in the Manhattan Project and able to keep it secret… and with 9/11 it doesn’t matter anyway what happened to them.  Over a third the country and half of New York doubt the official story, so what difference does it make if the people involved ran around screaming 9/11 was an inside job or kept their mouths shut.  All that matters is what the mainstream media says at the end of the day.  There were plenty of people at ground zero and people at home who just used common sense and knew the truth about 9/11 on 9/11.  And even before 9/11 people knew about it, Alex called it out three months before on live radio, whatever happened to those people involved is irrelevant.

A minimum of 2000 people vanished. Where are they? And where are the people who ran the op? Point them out. Prove it, now, or shut the fuck up.

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Americans now need an internal passport (National I.D.) to function in the U.S.
America is becoming a Police State.
All in the name of fighting terrorism.
Al-CIA-da was created and handled by the C.I.A.
This is a known fact.
But the U.S. Borders are wide open!
The U. S. Government is set to impose marshal law.
Building 7 fell into it’s own basement in less than 9 seconds.
This was all done to advance the New World Order. A one world government.
There is just one thing standing in the way of the Neo-Con’s Empire. It is called the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
The Globalist must destroy America before they can have their New World Order.
Welcome to the North American Union. 
Rub your two brain cells together sheeple.
The people of this country are not being told the truth about 9-11.

Awwww. The comments here are so absurdly stupid, they’re almost cute.

AE911truth.o r g

You want engineers? There you go…

Still no proof. Perhaps you mental midgets ought to get Arlen Sphyncter to investigate. You idiots believed the Warren Report. What fucking morons.

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Hi Rob,

Apparently, the codswallop put forward by the Bush Administration regarding 9/11 is more to your liking. This requires a certain lack of intellectual rigor on your end, of which, I am sure you are capable.

To believe that version of reality, you must accept the contradictions of military brass about what happened that day;

Here are the earlier claims made by the military--as represented at a Commission hearing in May of 2003 by Colonel Alan Scott and Major General Larry Arnold--followed by the contrary information provided by the tapes:

(1) The military’s earlier claim: When fighter jets at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia were scrambled at 9:24 that morning, they were scrambled in response to word from the FAA that possibly either AA 77 (as implied by Colonel Scott) or UA 93 (as stated by General Arnold) had been hijacked and was headed towards Washington.

What the tapes indicate: NEADS did not learn that AA 77 and UA 93 had been hijacked until after they had crashed. The Langley fighters were instead scrambled in response to “phantom AA 11”--that is, to a false report that AA 11 had not struck the World Trade Center and was instead headed towards Washington.

(2) The military’s earlier claim: Having learned from the FAA about the hijacking of UA 93 at 9:16, NEADS was tracking it and was in position to shoot it down if necessary. (Although the claim about the 9:16 notification is not reflected in NORAD’s timeline--which instead has “N/A”--both Arnold and Scott made this claim in their May 2003 testimony.)

What the tapes indicate: NEADS, far from learning of the possible hijacking of UA 93 at 9:16, at which time it had not yet been hijacked, did not receive this information until 10:07, four minutes after UA 93 had crashed. So NEADS could not have had fighter jets tracking it.

(3) The military’s earlier claim: NEADS was prepared to act on a command, issued by Vice President Cheney, to shoot down UA 93.

What the tapes indicate: There was no command to shoot down UA 93 before it crashed. Cheney was not notified about the possible hijacking of this flight until 10:02, only one minute before it crashed, and the shoot-down authorization was not given by him until many minutes after UA had crashed.

Assuming that the newly released tapes provide the definitive account of NEADS’ conversations on 9/11, the implications go far beyond the conclusion that Colonel Scott and General Arnold made false statements to the 9/11 Commission, evidently deliberately (Commission members, pointing out that the military had reviewed the tapes, dismiss the view that Scott and Arnold could have simply been confused). http://tinyurl.com/2csksh

Are you OK with that?

The story of how 9/11 was planned, (according to the 9/11 Commission), is based on the torture of the key 9/11 suspects;

Those subjected to waterboarding were suspected Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and senior al Qaeda leaders Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, Hayden said at the Senate hearing on threats to the United States. http://tinyurl.com/2t4syb

The torture model that the CIA used was based on an earlier program from the Cold War;

Nevertheless, the SERE experts’ theories were apparently put into practice with Zubaydah’s interrogation. Zubaydah told the Red Cross that he was not only waterboarded, as has been previously reported; he was also kept for a prolonged period in a cage, known as a “dog box,” which was so small that he could not stand. According to an eyewitness, one psychologist advising on the treatment of Zubaydah, James Mitchell, argued that he needed to be reduced to a state of “learned helplessness.”

Steve Kleinman, a reserve Air Force colonel and an experienced interrogator ... said that ... “...It starts with isolation. Then they eliminate the prisoners’ ability to forecast the future—when their next meal is, when they can go to the bathroom. It creates dread and dependency. It was the K.G.B. model. But the K.G.B. used it to get people who had turned against the state to confess falsely. The K.G.B. wasn’t after intelligence.”

The CIA used torture techniques designed to elicit false confessions to base the “Official Conspiracy Theory” of 9/11 on.

Are you OK with that?

I am glad that Willie feels free enough to speak his mind on 9/11. It is not tenamount to to Holocaust denial, as has been suggested! People who deny the Holocaust say it never happened. 9/11 Truthers are saying that the whole truth of that horrible day has yet to be told. and yes, there IS a difference!!!

Nevertheless, the SERE experts’ theories were apparently put into practice with Zubaydah’s interrogation. Zubaydah told the Red Cross that he was not only waterboarded, as has been previously reported; he was also kept for a prolonged period in a cage, known as a “dog box,” which was so small that he could not stand. According to an eyewitness, one psychologist advising on the treatment of Zubaydah, James Mitchell, argued that he needed to be reduced to a state of “learned helplessness.”

Rep,

So, what?

Perhaps you are unaware, but there are probably tens of thousands of us, active duty personnel and veterans, who have undergone exactly this same treatment as part of our training.

It is certainly uncomfortable, particularly with “guards” beating on the “box” at irregular intervals with some sort of wooden or metal stick… never mind the incessant Chinese “bubble gum music” played for our displeasure.  But the smart-asses among us, when asked by the “guards” why we didn’t respond more quickly, replied that we were “upstairs taking a nap” and hadn’t heard the doorbell.  And the more limber among us managed top turn themselves around 180 degrees, despite the confines of the “box” and drop our pants to that when the “guards” opened the door they were greeted with a nasty ol’ butt smiling back at them.

Torture is what John McCain, Jeremiah Denton, and Admiral James Stockdale and hundreds of other American warriors endured… broken bones, dislocated joints, untreated infections, dysentery, relentless beatings, starvation, deliberately inflicted acutely painful injuries to various parts of the body.  The SERE stuff you cite, even waterboarding, is nothing in comparison.  Effective...Yes.  Thankfully.  But torture?  Not hardly!

Besides, in the final analysis there is no rational justification for treating men like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri anywhere nearly as well as they were.  Men such as these, who have sworn a blood oath to destroy our civilization, our way of life, and anyone who refuses to accept their religious dogma, can have no claim on the benefits afforded by that civilization, that way of life, and our institutional tolerance.

If a man breaks into my home, I am not about to ask him politely if he is there to merely steal my art collection or whether his intentions toward me and my family are perhaps more savage.  I will kill the SOB on the spot, assuming the worst and secure in the knowledge that the intruder left all claim to tolerance and presumed innocence outside the door or window he came in.

And only a witless fool, you included, would do any different.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

I like the justification that was given by Hayden for more extreme measures in this case:

He told Congress: “We used it against these three detainees because of the circumstances at the time.

Michael Hayden (R) spoke as Mike McConnell reported to Congress
“There was the belief that additional catastrophic attacks against the homeland were inevitable. And we had limited knowledge about al-Qaeda and its workings.

“Those two realities have changed.”

I’ve expressed my reservation about the general utility of these more extreme interrogation methods, but this is exactly the circumstance where the risks of not using the methods outweigh the problematic issues with the quality of the intelligence so gathered.  I would guess that the CIA people agree, because they have refrained from using the method, even with authorization, outside of this particular circumstance.

In any case, reprehensor’s arguments are false.  The purpose of the extreme interrogation methods were not to confirm what we already knew from multiple intel sources about the planning of 9/11, but rather to reveal whether there were other similar attacks planned for the future.  And as Hayden explained in the link above, to expose secret details about the organization, financing and training in the al Qaeda organization.

Al Qaeda was severely compromised by the capture of these three thugs who reprehensor cries crocodile tears for.  And the world is safer because of it.

Carrick,

Not to get into the proverbial “pissing contest”, but your “reservation(s) about the general utility of these more extreme interrogation methods” seem to be at odds with the results attested to by General Hayden and DNI McConnell yesterday.

The rogue nuclear or biological weapon scenario is by now almost a cliche, but it is certainly no less pertinent.  A president, any president, who would not avail himself (or herself) of any and all means to locate such a weapon and identify the terrorist plotters would be guilty of dereliction of duty

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One, I’ve made it clear all along that there are circumstances where I thought it was justifiable.  Interestingly enough, for the good intel that we gathered e.g. from KSM, there is a long list of erroneous information that was unfortunately acted upon, sometimes to the embarrassment or general detriment of our nation.

Bad intel gets people killed as often than a lack of intel does.

If, as you continue to intimate, it’s such a damned successful program, why do you suppose they suspended it (and years before it became public knowledge)?

Bad intel gets people killed as often than a lack of intel does.

Emotionally satisfying, but a bit hard to quantify the consequences of a lack of intel, isn’t it?

One nuke in the middle of a crowded city covers a lot of wrongful convictions, I think; even some dead agents.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Carrick, as I have pointed out several times, the “bad intel” you keep referencing mainly came from unreliable HumInt sources, not interrogations. Interrogation works. You can deny that till Hell freezes over, and all you will have is the fact that interrogation works. And frozen Hell.

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Court Cases in the US District Court,
Southern District of New York,
with Attorney Jerry Leaphart:

** Dr Judy Wood, suing on behalf of the United States of America and demanding a Trial by Jury, has evidence that Directed Energy Weapons were a causal factor in the destruction of the World Trade Center.

http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Qui_Tam_Wood.html
Docket No. 1:07-cv-03314-GBD
Title: Wood v. Applied Research Associates, Inc. et al
Judge: George B. Daniels

** Dr Morgan Reynolds, suing on behalf of the United States of America and demanding a Trial by Jury, has evidence that the Media broadcasted cartoons of an airplane hitting the South Tower.

http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=federal_case
Docket No. 1:07-cv-04612-GEL
Title: Dr. Morgan O. Reynolds v. Science Applications International Corp. et al
Judge: George B. Daniels

PRESS RELEASE: Scientists See WTC - Hutchison Effect Parallel - On a Washington DC local radio station, WPFW, Scientists discuss true nature of destruction of WTC Complex on 9/11 and conclude it was related to a known effect:

http://www.prlog.org/10048184-scientists-see-wtc-hutchison-effect-parallel.html

The 9/11 attacks, the 9/11 cover up, and the 9/11 “truth movement” were orchestrated by people associated with directed energy weapons and the media:

9/11 Directed Energy Weapon / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline

The Twin Towers did not “collapse”, they were pulverized:

Wow, Rob, this one has brought the nuts a running. What you want to bet they got Luap Nor bumperstickers and yardsigns?

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The Twin Towers did not “collapse”, they were pulverized

Why not both?

It’s called kinetic energy. Look into it. It’s amazing what half a million tons of mass crashing down to the Earth will do. It pulverizes all matter.

Holy shit, imagine that!

Personally, I think the recent tornadoes were a government plot to instill fear in the populace on their way to installing a

...wait for it…

A dictatorship.

Yes folks. You can go back to sleep if you want, but the truth is the truth and it is understood if this truth scares you. Just go back to sleep.

For all of those who want the truth,

GOOGLE CLOUD SEEDING!!!!

Don’t believe fox news! They are in on this conspiracy.

Wake up sheeple, the 2/5 Truther Movement is growing. Don’t believe the official fairy tale.

Now Lik! You shouldn’t tease the mentally handicapped. Thats my job.

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Just look at the firefighters oral histories.. allot of them mention they heard explosives inside the building.. another glaring issue is the WTC is 100 stories high… 100 stories fell in around 12 secs… almost 10 floors a second..if this is correct that means they fell as if there was no resistance and in a vacuum.. which is impossible as there was plenty of concrete and steel to go thru..so how do you create a vacuum?? the answer is simple explosives. either that or the buildings were made from playign cards oh I forgot to mention WTC7 which was a classic demo.. just ask any demo expert and you can see for yourself just compare it too the 100s of demos you have seen.. (one actually involved in demolitions not surveying or writing about them ) Anyone who would lambast an Americon Icon excersicing his 1st amendment should probaly go to China or Cuba as a Communist would feel much more at home there.

Free-fall speed myth debunked

Watch and enjoy.  Actual footage, hard to argue with.

Collapse for first tower 14-16 seconds, second tower around 20 seconds.

Congratulations, Miami!  You can now join the 911-truther doubters.

No?  Then you’re a loon.

The terrorists were in league with aliens. A UFO flies away from WTC1 at about 14 seconds into the clip of the second plane hitting.

The Martians are Muslims.

Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

Flammer? Did you check out some of the other truffer stupidity? Some seriously wack photoshop crap going on there. They could get jobs working for Reuters. Wait. Maybe the do work for Reuters! That would explain a whole lot.

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Wow, I’m surprised the NeoCons have so many STUPID people employed typing RUMORS and trying to DISSUADE intelligent people from drawing their own conclusions.

Propaganda is their main strength of course.

9/11 was an inside job.. check out zeitgeist the movie, loose change and other movies on YouTube, and learn the TRUTH ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON!

9/11 was an inside job.. check out zeitgeist the movie, loose change and other movies on YouTube, and learn the TRUTH ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON!

Wow. You’re so sure of yourself.

Why don’t you check out Screw Loose Change.

And then you can learn about the TRUTH ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON!

That is, if you’re not just a STUPID person employed typing RUMORS and trying to DISSUADE intelligent people from drawing their own conclusions. (Capitalized for your benefit.)

Propaganda is your main strength of course.

Btw idiot - did you notice that you’re allowed to spew your insulting crap at this website? Think about that as you capitalize random words and insult those who give you a forum.

wow.. you tore a whole in the universe by swithing around what a said.. I take it back, you’re a total genius. 

Ok, now I believe your side of the story.  But what is your side? Bin Laden has been de-bunked.

Truth is, your story has so many holes in it it’s not even funny.

Plane engines, seats (and bodies) don’t just vanish into thin air after a crash. Think about it long and hard.

Egh, whatever “Paul Revere”. If you’re going to lie about what happened and characterize things as vanishing into thin air, then you’re going to find holes in that story. The thing is, it’s your story that you’re debunking.

Good job there, chief. You’re debunking your own story.

CNN Admits 9-11 Inside Job !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyMIqVfH8zY#GU5U2spHI_4

So, you are telling us that CNN attacked America? OK, I can buy that one.

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