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Friday, March 07, 2008


Will Teacher’s Unions Support Higher Teacher Pay?

Bart Hinkle notes a conundrum for teacher’s unions:

Should they support a school that will pay teachers as much as $125,000 a year — even if it is a charter school?

I think that decision will be directly proportional to whether or not the teachers working at that school will be unionized, and how much the union’s take of those big salaries will be.

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Comments

The teachers working at that school will not be unionized. And at $125k a year—given the hours that a teacher works—I am considering a career change.


“Behind Communism, Fascism, behind all occupations and invasions lurks a more basic, pervasive evil… a parade of people marching by with raised fists and shouting identical syllables in unision.” - Milan Kundera

Hairy Polemic on March 7, 2008 at 12:26 pm

$125k a year

Enticing? Absolutely. Enough for me to return to being a public school teacher?  Absolutely ... NOT.

given the hours that a teacher works

Hairy, like most people, you have no compendium as to the working hours it takes to be an earnest teacher our society needs and desires.


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Anna on March 7, 2008 at 01:43 pm

Hairy, like most people, you have no compendium as to the working hours it takes to be an earnest teacher our society needs and desires.

Maybe he’s just basing it off of the average NEA slob. A lot of public school teachers sleepwalk through their jobs. They just go through the most basic of motions.

As to our society’s needs and desires, I’m not sure our society desires good education. America keeps on giving more and more control over to the feds. There’s a consistent negative track record and all objective measurements of performance keep on getting worse. If America really desired good education, it would reject big government controlling it.

likwidshoe on March 7, 2008 at 02:30 pm

Anna,

Hairy, like most people, you have no compendium as to the working hours it takes to be an earnest teacher our society needs and desires.

I wasn’t griping about how easy it is to be a teacher. But, even if it takes 70hrs a week to be an earnest teacher, that would be 30hrs less than my work week (and I don’t get summers off). I was expressing my sincere interest in the job.


“Behind Communism, Fascism, behind all occupations and invasions lurks a more basic, pervasive evil… a parade of people marching by with raised fists and shouting identical syllables in unision.” - Milan Kundera

Hairy Polemic on March 7, 2008 at 02:46 pm

Maybe he’s just basing it off of the average NEA slob. A lot of public school teachers sleepwalk through their jobs. They just go through the most basic of motions.

If we really wanted better teachers, here’s what America would do.

We’d close down all the ed schools. I’m talking about actually removing accreditation from colleges that offered classes in education. I’ve taken about 25 classes, and am qualified to teach some of them. Most of them lack any intellectual or vocational credibility.

We should have math teachers credentialed by math departments, science teachers by science departments, and so on. Elementary credentials should be awarded to any college graduate who completes a 1 or 2 year apprentiship under an experienced teacher.

The sheer stupidity of education classes weeds out the brightest bulbs.

Wing Chun Geologist on March 7, 2008 at 04:20 pm

The sheer stupidity of education classes weeds out the brightest bulbs.

Word. But if you had a real degree from a real program (e.g., a Masters in Math), you probably wouldn’t take a job as a teacher except at this school. So the money really does make a difference.


“Behind Communism, Fascism, behind all occupations and invasions lurks a more basic, pervasive evil… a parade of people marching by with raised fists and shouting identical syllables in unision.” - Milan Kundera

Hairy Polemic on March 7, 2008 at 04:47 pm
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