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Monday, October 31, 2005

Why Won’t Dean Say He’s Pro-Choice?

Dean on Hardball with Chris Matthews:

MATTHEWS: So the Democrats are the pro-choice party, period?

DEAN: The government…

MATTHEWS: The Democrats, your party, is the pro-choice party.

DEAN: No, my party respects everybody’s views, but my party firmly believes that the government should stay out of people’s personal lives.

MATTHEWS: But you’re a pro-choice party, are you not? You sound like you’re against them for being pro-life. Are you pro-choice?

DEAN: I’m not against people for being pro-life. I actually was the first chairman who met for a long, for a long time, who met with the pro-life Democrats…

MATTHEWS: This is a complicated thing for people. The people believe the Republican party because of its record supports the pro-life position. Does your party support the pro-choice position?

DEAN: The position we support is, a woman has a right to make, and a family has a right to make up their own mind about their health care without government interference.

MATTHEWS: That’s pro-choice.

DEAN: , A woman and a family have a right to make up their own minds about their health care without government interference. That’s our position.

MATTHEWS: Why do you hesitate to use the phrase “pro-choice”?

DEAN: Because I think it’s often misused. If you’re pro-choice it implies you’re not pro-life — that’s not true. There are a lot of pro-life Democrats. We respect them, but we believe the government should…

MATTHEWS: Do you believe in abortion rights?

DEAN: I believe the government should stay out of personal, of the personal lives of families and women. They should stay out of our lives. That’s what I believe.

MATTHEWS: I find it interesting that you have hesitated to say what the party has always stood for, which is the pro-choice position…

DEAN: The party believes the government does not belong in making personal decisions.

MATTHEWS: Okay, I’m learning things here about a hesitancy I didn’t know about before.


Video at the link.

Sounds like Dean has finally got it through his head that the Democrats aren't going to win any elections until they move their party back toward the center a bit.

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[...] Why Won’t Dean Say He’s Pro-Choice? By Rob on October 31, 2005 at 11:38 pm [...]

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I’m not trying to start an argument over abortion rights here. Just let’s remember that there’s more than two sides.

I understand your point, Todd, but you have to remember that for someone like me there are only two sides.  You are either in favor of killing unborn children, or you are not.  I am not.  I consider it a foul sort of crime that is having a terribly detrimental effect on our society as it decreases the appreciation for life and acting responsibly.

So, to me, the fact that Dean wants to avoid the pro-choice label means he wants to muddy the waters and appear to move more toward the center without actually compromising his beliefs.

It’s a political move, and indicative of the political climate right now.


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Rob on November 1, 2005 at 07:11 pm
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Hack job.  As much as I dislike Dean (and lemme tell ya..) he did repeatedly state a position: “a woman has a right to make, and a family has a right to make up their own mind.” He did kind of dance around the label ‘pro-choice,’ but Matthews focused on that instead lf what Dean was saying.
If I described my opinions on abortion to you, you’d label me ‘pro-choice,’ and you’d be right.  But there’s more to it than that, and tucking me neatly under that label basically lets you ignore the rest.
I’m not trying to start an argument over abortion rights here.  Just let’s remember that there’s more than two sides.

Todd on November 1, 2005 at 07:12 pm
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I agree with this:

he did repeatedly state a position: “a woman has a right to make, and a family has a right to make up their own mind.” He did kind of dance around the label ‘pro-choice,’ but Matthews focused on that instead lf what Dean was saying.

And this:

the fact that Dean wants to avoid the pro-choice label means he wants to muddy the waters and appear to move more toward the center without actually compromising his beliefs.

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