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Saturday, June 30, 2007

Why Is The Left Constantly Downplaying The Terrorist Threat?

Some deranged jihadist in Great Britain loads a car up with gasoline, propane and shrapnel and drives it in to London looking to inflict maximum casualties.  Yet when he’s caught, and his plot is thwarted, certain elements on the left get all dismissive.  They claim that the guy was never a threat.  They call the attempted attack “fear mongering” and concoct wild conspiracy theories about the CIA pulling the strings on the attack in order to keep the populace scared so that the war on terror (which they also dismiss) can be perpetuated.

What I don’t understand is...why?

And it’s not that I don’t understand the impulse to reject government attempts to control us by keeping us scared (as though liberals have any room to talk in that area given that they love letting the government control us via regulations, invasive tax laws, socialized medicine, etc.).  I get that impulse.  I’m down with it.  But even so, I’m not down with dismissing the terrorist threat simply because this guy’s plot may not have worked.

Yet that’s exactly what the left would have us do.  They’d have us roll back security measures.  Stop counter-terrorism intelligence efforts.  Quit detaining sworn jihadi radicals and stop fighting against the terrorist threat in the middle east, thus leaving terror sponsors and groups like Syria, Iran and al Qaeda to foment jihad against western targets instead of concentrating most of their resources on middle eastern fights.

Why?  Who knows.  A lot of it has to do with liberal self loathing (they wouldn’t be fighting us if we weren’t such imperialist jerks) and a lot has to do with fear over appearing racist and/or unsympathetic to other people’s culture (because apparently terrorism is a cultural thing), but mostly I think this mindless twits take this “there is no terrorist threat” position because, well, their political opponents take the opposite position.  And they’re incapable of admitting when their political enemies are right.

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The wacky and increasingly mainstream left believes that it is all a government conspiracy to keep us fearful and therefore controllable. Somehow they miss the hundreds of thousands of radicalized Muslims who chant for our deaths in any number of marches. The Muslims are screaming to be heard and the left can only go “duh,..it’s Bush/Blair/Cheney/the government trying to scare us”.

likwidshoe on June 30, 2007 at 10:33 am

The Left believes terrorism to be overblown because it explodes their most cherished belief, cultural relativism.  In the eyes of the Left all cultures are equal and all cultures want peace.  The thought that AQ and the Salafists really do want to reestablish the Ummah on their terms simply cannot be comprehended by a bunch who believe all we have to do to “end terrorism” is throw Israel to the wolves.

The Left believes that their cultural relativism will be respected and rewarded by any and all cultures.  The fact that Salafism considers their relativism a sign of weakness that makes the West easier to kill just doesn’t register.  Their brains cannot grok the fact that the answer to “Why do they hate us?” isn’t found in any Western actions, but instead in the cold-blooded murderous mentality of the Salafists.

Captain Ned on June 30, 2007 at 11:21 am

’The enemy of my enemy is my friend’ explains a lot of strange alliances.  The 7th century barbarians are fighting back against GWB’s war machine and thus they fully support them.  Chavez publically calls bush a sulfur smelling devil and they fully support him.  Iran holds it’s ground to get peaceful nuclear electricity and they fully support that regime.  The barbarians launch missiles at the Israelly public (which is supported by Bush), thus they fully support Hamas/fatah/hezbollah.  Anybody who publically critisizes Bush will get the full support of the left.  The country-music hating elites suddenly dig the Dixie Chicks?  See the pattern?

I cant say if as a whole, the libs believe islamic terrorism is a threat.  They do however, believe the biggest current threat to the country is Bush/Cheney/Rove and that takes top priority.  I also honestly believe that the left thinks the barbarians will stop attacking the west when soft and cuddly Hillary is in power.  It will be one big group hug in 1/21/09.

RealManOfGenius on June 30, 2007 at 11:44 am
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First, the so-called Left is a straw man erected to prop up the arguments of conservatives. Please, identify the Left to me. And don’t say Michael Moore. Everyone with a brain knows he is full of shite. Secondly, the Left, if they did in fact exist, would be opposed to cultural relativism, which, I suppose, is what Captain Ned is trying to say. As far as RealManOfGenius’ comments go, not even conservatives like the Bush/Cheney/Rove dynamic. Seriously, incompetence is incompetence no matter what ideology you pin to your sleeve.

Brian on June 30, 2007 at 01:21 pm
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I forgot to add a comment for the esteemed author. Liberal self-loathing? Did you cut that out along with your other tired caricatures? Jeebus, it’s straight from the How to Talk Conservative Politics to Mindless Jerks handbook. Which is not to say that you don’t have anything interesting to contribute. However, spare us the pop-psychology and concentrate on substantive issues / information. That is, construct an argument grounded in logic and fact…

Brian on June 30, 2007 at 01:38 pm
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First, the so-called Left is a straw man erected to prop up the arguments of conservatives

So I’m not allowed to refer to the generic demographic of people who share liberal ideals as “the left,” but you’re allowed to make a sweeping indictment of “conservatives” for making sweeping generalizations of “the left.”

That’s...conflicted.

I think it’s pretty clear who I was talking about to people who aren’t affected pedants.

I forgot to add a comment for the esteemed author. Liberal self-loathing? Did you cut that out along with your other tired caricatures? Jeebus, it’s straight from the How to Talk Conservative Politics to Mindless Jerks handbook.

I think the “liberal self loathing” angle is relevant, given the left’s (GENERALIZATION!!!!) propensity to blame America first for just about all the problems in the world.

By the way, I know the use of Homer Simpson’s pronunciation of “Jesus” is meant as a jab at me, but it’s not really working because I’m an atheist.  Not that you’d make a sweeping assumption about all Republicans being Christian or anything.

So “Jebus” away, jackass.


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Rob on June 30, 2007 at 01:52 pm
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If the left is downplaying the terrorist threat, maybe its because they aren’t scared of them? Maybe too many conservatives types are just too easily frightened? Could that be the case? Who said give me freedom or give me death? Maybe conservatives should live by that quote, and stop being so scared.

veggiedude on June 30, 2007 at 02:45 pm

Brian, to be simple, the left are communists.  These are the same people who sat around in coffeehouses in NYC in the 1920-30’s and went along with FDR’s “new deal” because they were too lazy to work.  They are the same people who helped Walter Duranty lie about the Ukranian genocide in the 1930s. Read some of it here.  The left want to see the USA defeated so they can take over after anarchy.


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Chief RZ on June 30, 2007 at 06:03 pm

veghead, lead the way. Go to your local mosque and explain how you do not fear them, or their “god”. Meanwhile, I’ll just keep tracking their activities and cataloging their contacts, working up that target list.


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2Hotel9 on June 30, 2007 at 07:03 pm

Noted anarchist, Karl Hess said of the American Left:  “The American Left loves the Arab because, the arabs come from primitive pre-capitalist societies.”

Sluggo on June 30, 2007 at 09:11 pm

Damn, Slug, I had forgotten about Herr Comrade Hess!

And the point is no less valid for having been put forward by a moron(not you,Hess). The left’s clinging to the “Noble Savage” meme is absolutely comical, since leftards would be the first forced into slavery by the Authority/Leader figure they would worship. Just look at the first 20 years of Russian history after the revolution for all the evidence needed.


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2Hotel9 on July 1, 2007 at 05:01 am

The left believe that we can negotiate with these people, that we can buy them off with little improvements in their (leader’s) lives.
Remember “War is not the answer!” “Give peace a chance!” “Make love not war!”. What a crock…
...we gave peace a chance and radical Islam attacked us, perceiving us to be weak.


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ManofFireandLight on July 1, 2007 at 05:35 am

How many millions of dollars were showered upon Arafat? How well did that work out? How many millions of dollars are the Saudis showering upon Wahabi mullahs and Imams? How well is that working out?

I expect no answers of consequence from any leftard.


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2Hotel9 on July 1, 2007 at 06:32 am

veggiehead said, Maybe conservatives should live by that quote, and stop being so scared.

Recognizing a threat and then taking actions to counter that threat isn’t acting “scared” veggiehead. It is quite the opposite in fact.

likwidshoe on July 1, 2007 at 06:09 pm

2H9,

If violence is not working, you are not being violent enough.


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Rodney Graves on July 1, 2007 at 06:38 pm

Or, in the case of Wahabi Deathculters, no amount of violence will convince people to bow down to you.


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2Hotel9 on July 1, 2007 at 06:53 pm

Or, in the case of Wahabi Deathculters, no amount of violence will convince people to bow down to you.

They are serious wacknips. Them, “We do this for God’s glory. OK now let’s go kill a bunch of children.” I just don’t get the logic there.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on July 1, 2007 at 07:02 pm

They proclaim their desire to die for their “god” and I so dearly wish right now I could give them the rewards they so richly deserve.


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2Hotel9 on July 1, 2007 at 07:30 pm

sparkless,

Nits make lice.

Kill them, kill them all.


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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Rodney Graves on July 1, 2007 at 08:09 pm

sparkless,

Until such time as “un-conditoinal surrender” seems a good choice to the remnant of the jhadi’s.


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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Rodney Graves on July 1, 2007 at 08:10 pm
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