Why Are Ovaries A Prerequisite For Having An Opinion On Abortion?

  •  October 20, 2006

Mary Katharine Ham wonders:

i…f a man can have no opinion on the subject of abortion; if, because he has no ovaries; if he is prohibited from even pondering the question of whether taking a human life in the womb is right or wrong, why the heck should he feel any obligation to a child after it’s born? After all, he doesn’t have ovaries. The child was a choice and you made it. He had no say at all. Why does the child become his obligation once you need child support?
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I wonder how many women understand the pain of a man whose own child can be killed at someone else’s whim. I imagine, for a decent man, if could be “frightening,” “difficult,” and “horrifying.” A lot of these women don’t seem to think about all the “aspects involved” for a man.

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  • http://angrychad.blogspot.com/ Chad

    It is not up to you, nor I, to grant anyone power over their own body.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I’ll try to type slow so Chad can maybe comprehend.

    If the man only created a clump of cells that only became human when the female made that decision, then he shouldn’t be responsible for that decision. On the other hand if he had part of creating a human life seperate from his own he is responsible.

    Obviously we hold him reponsible.

    So like the man, the woman must be responsible for the life of the child that she’s been part of creating, seperate from her own. She no more has the right to murder that child than the guy would at that time.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    If the women are the only ones who have a decision if that fetus becomes a baby then the guy should be left out of it. That’s the contridiction.

    Are you obligated to impregnate anyone?
    It is not up to you, nor I, to grant anyone power over their own body.

    Last I heard the woman was supposed to have a say in the decision to have sex. Therefore she’s got control of her body. She might have to face the consequences of that decision if it results in creating a life seperate from her own.

  • http://angrychad.blogspot.com/ Chad

    The guy has a choice – not to have sex.

    “She might have to face the consequences of that decision if it results in creating a life seperate from her own.”

    And no one is saying otherwise. One of the possible options, of course, is abortion.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    Just the concept of abortion is bad enough. It is a selfish act that takes away any regard for the life being created inside a woman. So, we have no rights for the baby or the father. Hmmm…?

  • Dave_Comet

    I actually agree with this. The man and the woman should both have equal say in the decision on whether to abort the potential child or kill the newborn infant. While neither the fetus nor the infants have any rights, their creators do. Allowing the mother to kill her child without the father’s consent usurps his rights in the exact same way that the mother’s rights would be violated if a psycho killer her baby.

  • robert108

    The issue is why is it that the guy has no rights, only obligations.

    Answer: American feminism.

  • bruce

    Just roll em over………..

  • http://donsurber.blogspot.com/ Don Surber

    Q. Why Are Ovaries A Prerequisite For Having An Opinion On Abortion?

    A. Oh, why not? It is one less opinion I have to come up with. I would rather use my TAAT (thinking about abortion time) discussing baseball and all that guy stuff

  • Seth Williams

    Chad, your pat answers (ie “he has a choice: not to have sex”) don’t really advance your point of view. Women have a choice too: not to have sex. Are you really arguing that all women who abort are rape victims? If, as you seemingly believe, women have the choice to abort an unwanted baby, do you also believe that men should have the choice to not support unwanted babies?

  • robert108

    The reality is that only the woman has a say in whether or not sex takes place. If she says no, it doesn’t happen, otherwise it is a crime. Why this one-sided position? I though we all had equal protection under the law.

  • robert108

    Chad: Even if what you say is true, so what? Why is it OK for a pregnant woman to take a life on her whim? We don’t grant anyone else that kind of power over life and death. It’s just wrong.

  • http://angrychad.blogspot.com/ Chad

    “The issue is why is it that the guy has no rights, only obligations.”

    Are you obligated to impregnate anyone?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Chad said, And no one is saying otherwise.

    It looks like you’re saying otherwise Chad.

    One of the possible options, of course, is abortion.

    That’s not facing the consequence of her actions, that’s running away from them.

  • http://angrychad.blogspot.com/ Chad

    “I wonder how many women understand the pain of a man whose own child can be killed at someone else’s whim.”

    Chances are, if she’s going to be ridding herself of your seed “on a whim”, your relationship, to begin with, was on shaky ground at best. Not exactly the best enviornment to raise a child.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I don’t think we would have a problem with an health and rape exception IMO.

  • ausblog

    I’m 98% pro-life and 2% pro-choice, though the 2% didn’t come easy.

    World estimations of the number of terminations carried out each year is somewhere between 20 and 88 million.

    3,500 per day / 1.3 million per year in America alone.

    50% of that 1.3 million claimed failed birth control was to blame.

    A further 48% had failed to use any birth control at all.

    And 2% had medical reasons.

    That means a stagering 98% may have been avoided had an effective birth control been used.

    Australia (with a population of 20 million) terminated over 100 thousand young people last year. I’ve done the figures and Australia do more per head.

    Abortion has got to be by far the Mother of all holicosts, the most extensive crime against humanity the world has ever seen.

    Though it pains me to say it but, there may always be a need for the 2% medical reasons and such, but that’s all.

    So how do we get the other 98% to be responsible……………….

    How do we get them to be honest with themselves, about when life begins.

    Everyone knows it starts at conception, egg+sperm = human being

    Sadly many frefer the odd termination over using birth control, they have all kinds of reasons, each of them selfish.

    Then there’s the christian impossition,(all a bit talibanish), and their men in high places.(church and state should never entwine) their stance against b/c has only added to the numbers.

    Sanity must provale, abortions should remain available and safe to the 2% and the rest need to have a good look at themselves and get their act together.

    Have you seen ( HOT OFF THE SHOW! Throw-away babies )

    It’s a blog by Sharon Hughes?

  • Seth Williams

    I’ve been lurking, Rob. Haven’t had the time to write anything, there’s big changes afoot for me.

  • robert108

    Bill Clinton once said that abortions should be available , safe and RARE.
    He is a wise man.

    As usual, Clinton was lying; he supported nothing of the kind; he was, and is, pro-abortion, like all the rest of the lefties.

    I guess you misunderstood what I wrote; you referred to Christians as being “somewhat talibanish”, and nothing could be farther from the truth. Lefties, with their rigid, inflexible ideology, are much closer to the Taliban. Look what they did to Joe Lieberman and Zel Miller.

  • robert108

    Then there’s the christian impossition,(all a bit talibanish)

    Yeah, in my part of the country, the Christians are always strapping bombs on children and beheading women in soccer stadiums.(not) What a ridiculous fiction! Shame on you!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    The issue is why is it that the guy has no rights, only obligations. That’s also just wrong.

  • ausblog

    Robert,

    But they do want to assimilate the country by trying to impose their beliefs and ideals on everyone.
    With Bush and his pals in office you can forget about being known as the land of the free.
    Imposing their will whether by gun or by law.

    A good christian heart wouldn’t do that, they are more likely to serve the people in any way they can, offering assistance to those in need, maybe hoping that some may appreciate their efforts and want to be more like them.

    Bill Clinton once said that abortions should be available , safe and RARE. He is a wise man.

    I’d like to see an ultrasound in every clinnic to provide a more informed choice,
    before going through with something they may regret.

    I’d also like to see effective birth control made available to all who can’t afford it.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I hope your not talking about a sex change seth.

  • ausblog

    I am a 98% pro-lifer, 2% Pro-choicer, who has no religious convictions at all . I didn’t need the fear of god or anything else to come to my decision, just a good sense of what is right and wrong.
    You see we were all once a fetus. Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that when your mother first learned she was carrying you, she may have considered her options? What if she had decided to terminate? Would that have been OK?
    You would not exist, if you have children they would not exist, and your (husband or wife) would be married to someone else. You would have been deprived of all your experiences and memories. In this day and age with terminations being so readily available and so many being carried out, if you make it to full term you can consider yourself lucky.
    Lucky you had a mother that made the choice of life for you.

    Don’t you think they all deserve the same basic human right, LIFE?

    At the point of conception is when life began for you. This was the start of your existence. Your own personal big bang. Three weeks after conception heart started to beat. First brain waves recorded at six weeks after conception. Seen sucking thumb at seven weeks after conception.

    I am convinced that in the not too distant future, people will look back at many of the practices of today with disbelief and horror.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I’ve been lurking, Rob. Haven’t had the time to write anything, there’s big changes afoot for me.

    Well do tell…if you can.

    And we have reader blogs now. Any time you want to return to writing you’ve got an audience here ready and waiting.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Heh, good one Don.

    That sounds suspiciously like telling a woman to go and do the dishes while the men folk discuss the serious stuff.
    ;-)

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Seth! Where you been?

    Seriously, we heard from you more often when you lived in the far east…

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