I, personally, think that voting for someone simply because they’re black (or female) is every bit as bad as voting against someone for those same reasons.
In a colorblind society shouldn’t we be...colorblind?
You know if Elisabeth had told Whoopi that something was a “very black way of looking at things” she would have been fired over the next commercial break. That’s one of the most racist things I’ve ever heard.
I agree that it’s irresponsible to vote for someone just because of their race or gender. People who are that stupid have no business voting. Hearing people not only admit to this but defend it makes me very very nervous.
Look at whoopies comments from the opposite view. Then who is the racist… the buck toothed ni.... who thinks she’s funny?
"we should select our leaders on principle first, electability second.”
A young man whose wisdom far exceeds his years
I thought it was ‘very white’ to judge by the color of one’s skin...Im cornfused...now I dont even know how to act white anymore. I’ll eagerly await Whoopie’s next installment to help me have a deeper understanding.
"I’ve never seen a black (person) in a position of power”
Except Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, because they don’t share her politics. She’s never seen a hard left liberal black man in a high position of power is what she means. She doesn’t just want white people to get past race (which I, frankly believe they absolutely have, Powell could have been president), She wants them to accept a black man/woman with her brand of politics. I got news for you Whoopie: no white person with far left politics is going to be elected president either. I ain’t a race thang, its a liberal thang, honey.
Look, I think to a small degree I understand what Whoopi is saying. I mean try and put yourself in her shoes. Slavery and segregation are historical facts and to many of those who suffered under these injustices the thought of a black President would be an absolute impossibility. This mindset existed not so long ago, and it undoubtedly was passed on to subsequent generations. Just because the democrat party sought and seeks to capitalize politically on this does not mean that this mindset is without justification. We are only one generation removed from segregation. I disagree with liberals and I don’t want to see a liberal win no matter the ethnicity of the candidate, but I could see how a deeply rooted hope would be realized by the election of a black President. And, to those whose politics are less than convictions, the party wouldn’t matter all that much.
I don’t think we will have a black President until the “black community” gets over past history and stops being a separate group of Americans. The ball is in their court. Most white Americans probably know that most black Americans hate them because of their skin color. Only a small fraction of white Americans ever owned slaves, and even fewer white Americans today are descended from slaveowners, as if that matters. Many Americans are descended from European immigrants who came here after Emancipation.
Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:
It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.
robert: exactly! You know what, even though I completely disagree with Obama on almost every single issue, back in January-early Feb, he had me fooled. I thought he _had_ transcended all that, and I have to admit I was a little excited by the fact that we might have a black president, kind of like, that’ll show ‘em, it would heal a lot of wounds and change a lot of opinions about white Americans. I mean, I’m sensitive to being thought a country of racists as anyone.
But then the mask started to slip. Turns out, he’s every bit the race-baiter Jackson and Sharpton are, he just started out hiding it better.
You are exactly right, no black person will be elected to high office until they get past that (only Congressmen can still play that game), and I don’t think its possible to get nominated in the Dem party without it, so the first black president will probably be a Republican.
I agree that it’s irresponsible to vote for someone just because of their race or gender. People who are that stupid have no business voting.
You mean like the founding fathers? Why do you hate America so much?
People who are that stupid have no business voting.
Oh, and look who is wanting to take away peoples right to vote? Classic.
Now, if only I could find a comment from a Republican who could complain about Americans who make too much money (Pilgrim). Then, I might be able to make a case about how Republicans want to take away freedoms and how socialist they are. Then, I just might earn some credibility around these parts.
The more I stick around this site, the smarter I get. Thanks everyone for contributing so much to the advancement of my critical thinking ability.
HG,
Good comments. It’s nice to see that someone has the ability to see the other persons perspective, even if they don’t agree with it.
I thought Goldbergs comments were pathetic, but I can understand why she said it. This double standard BS is driving me nuts. We have to get past this.
back in January-early Feb, he had me fooled. I thought he _had_ transcended all that, and I have to admit I was a little excited by the fact that we might have a black president, kind of like, that’ll show ‘em, it would heal a lot of wounds and change a lot of opinions about white Americans. I mean, I’m sensitive to being thought a country of racists as anyone.
Weasel,
Think a bit deeper for a moment. How does a black leader get the “black community” to follow him in a different direction? By abandoning and turning their back on them?
How about if he led by example? How about the idea that he listened to them and then when the world was watching, talked about the area where they may be misguided and mis-directed?
What better person to do this than a presidential candidate who the country has seen as a force of change.
We need a guy like Barack who bridges the gap between the mind set of yesterday (Wright) and pulls them to the mind set of tomorrow (Powell).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auco5TU8Y9g
Powell on Obama talking to Iran..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K4vj3yOZ60
I encourage you to think about this just a bit more. Don’t get caught up in all this emotional hyperbole Rob has been pushing. He is pushing divisive nonsense.
What do you think Obama would do if he were to get in power? Turn the tables so the “black man will have the whip hand over the white man”?
Right now blacks have humor, sports and black republican politicians who are generally dismissed when they express their own views that differ from the party. (Powell)
We need leaders, not followers.
Voting for anyone because “they Look like me” would be the dumbest reason to vote for anyone.
The odd thing about Whoopie’s rational for campaiging against the female is that black men received the right to vote before women of any color received the right to vote.
If I were to return to my old ways of feminist thinking I’d have to say that Whoopie Goldberg is a ‘cave-dwelling sexist neanderthal keeping females suck barefoot in the kitchen cooking up slop for the man’.
Fortunately change has come for me and today I agree with this wise statement:
Voting for anyone because “they Look like me” would be the dumbest reason to vote for anyone.
There is Hope for Whoopie but she won’t find it by supporting Collectivist groupthink.
I love how sanni’s attempt to derail this thread failed utterly.
Whoopi is the most racist piece of crap on TV today. Were she white and making such statements she would be vilified roundly.
HG, not to be nitpicky, can you point to anyone that falls into this"Slavery and segregation are historical facts and to many of those who suffered under these injustices” category? Seeing as slavery was ended in the mid-1860s that would be one hell of a senior citizen.
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The double standard is jsut sickening, you can not take your white goggles off as they both keep their black goggles on.
The first thing I thought about was (and forgive me for not remembering exactly where it was) a recent study done that most black americans (not African Americans)claim to “know” discrimination still exists however, they can not recount one instance of it happening to them personally.
She wasn’t sayig that either one was or was not qualified she was simply saying that to vote for one or the other based solely on race or gender is wrong, just as to not vote for them based solely on that is wrong then two people stand up and say it is ok to do exactly that and then to only defend the one that is the same race and not the same gender.
Somebody should send them this: racism
Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
— rac·ist \-sist also -shist\ noun or adjective
And we should all realize that you can not fix racism by practicing racism.
it’s irresponsible to vote for someone just because of their race or gender
Not irresponsible, but childish and simple. You don’t vote for someone or buy something just because of what color it is or what it looks like. The intelligent lady on the right (no pun) expressed a logical statement. If that is “white” to Whoopie it is because of the “don’t act white” thing that went around in public schools starting two decades ago. I admit, and some others here (especially women) that I would not buy a new car if its color were pepto bismo pink. correct. I could buy the car and have it repainted, but only if the price allowed that. Now, there are quite a few (90% at last election) that seem to vote based on the color of one’s skin. Maybe they are unable to think or see past the color of their skin. Neither of the democratic candidates are acceptable to me because of their past votes, their philosophy and their integrity.
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People who are that stupid have no business voting.Oh, and look who is wanting to take away peoples right to vote? Classic.
Classic Hannitized! YOU made that very argument on this very blog and we called you on it! Now, you puff yourself up with faux self-righteous indignation over the comment! Classic, all right! Classic Hannitized bullshit!
The more I stick around this site, the smarter I get.
That’s only because with you, Little Orphan Hannie, it would be impossible for you to get any dumber! Heh!
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Nothing in what Whoopi may believe will make Hillary or Obama any more qualified than their obvious limitations already displayed in the public. Ironically, the polls indicate that at least 20% of the supporters for both Hillary and Obama already believe that a good reason to vote for either candidate is exactly what Whoopi is saying. It is hypocritical to believe that gender or race will hold the key to an “ideal” leadership situation. Personally, as a white male I am getting tired of being blamed for past problems experienced by women and minorities. Whoopi herself most likely would not even be hosting that show if she were white. If not for her color what does she offer? She is no different than the others.
Actually, bullshitter Hannie, if I remember correctly the comment you made was worse. Here, some one said they “had no business” voting, whereas I believe you actually spoke of taking the right to vote away from them. I correctly identified you as a “fascist” at that time.
Lots of people do what they ought to “have no business” doing. Taking away the right to vote, is fascist in nature. Your nature.
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Look, I know it’s hard for all the stupids to understand that I just keep getting smarter all the time and will forever even though I don’t need to because I am soo extremely smart right now that it’s basically impossible to measure how extremely smart I am. Don’t even try it! I’m pretty sure I believe what I’m saying but let me keep saying it because that helps. I am SMART! You are all dumb! I am the smartest!! Now don’t go voting based on emotion, just vote for the guy that you hope will change things. You’re just emotional if you question his judgement based upon things he has stated in the past or the people he has chosen to associate himself with. That’s emotional. SMART people just hope he’ll change things and think about the way that makes them feel. I’m smart. No really! I don’t say that lightly and I’m totally trying to convince you stupids of how smart I am. It’s not like I keep talking about how smart I am or how dumb you are in comparison to me because I secretly don’t believe a word or it or know deep down inside that I’m a sputtering made infantile Democrat partisan with absolutely no social skills or life outside of heckling better people than myself on the interenet to build up my extremely low self esteem owed entirely to my borderline mental retardation. Not at all! I am smart because I’m smart. And don’t you dare do anything that even comes close to proving otherwise or I’ll deny it vehemently and without fail. Even if it makes me look like a complete fucking imbicile and further deteriorates my hopelessly wanting self image. EVER! Obama 08! Excuse me while I call in some fake accusastions of child abuse on religious folk in Texas. Stupid people.
I admit, and some others here (especially women) that I would not buy a new car if its color were pepto bismo pink. correct. I could buy the car and have it repainted, but only if the price allowed that.
RZ, you’re talking about John McCain here, right?
“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob
A couple facts: 1. The USA did NOT invent slavery. 2. In Africa being called racist is a badge of honor. 3. Every race on the planet has at one time or another been both a slave and a slave owner. 4. Slavery is still widespread in most of the 3rd world and socialist paradises such as China, Indonesia, N. Korea, Africa, Mexico, etc. 5. Whoopie is once again laying on guilt trips in a attempt to obtain preferential treatment. 6. The world is not all at the same level of civilization or equally evolved. Some cultures still practice witchcraft, cannibalism, etc., and none of those are white cultures. A savage with a cellphone is still a savage.
That’s the reality.
Mickey.
Or Obama either. Someone last week made that comment, and they were correct. If any other first term (two years so far) junior senator threw his hat into the ring, and they were “white” do you think they would have gotten this far unless their skin color were similar to his?Whoopi herself most likely would not even be hosting that show if she were white.
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So, boob, your telling us that McC is responsible for Whoopi being a racist? Really? Do you make this crap up, or do you steal it from Conehead O’Brien?
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Fred. Well put. “ America did not invent slavery.” There is another group of people who are past masters at laying (misplaced) guilt, but they are a religious group as well as merchants of motion pictures. In Africa, slavery is still a commodity. Some people can change their positions, but they must be in their adult. Unfortunately, some are stuck in their child because of over-parenting, drug addiction, or deciding to take the easy route instead of the more difficult, but morally straight route. My wife commented that she would not want to be seen test driving a car of “that” color. This is an interesting issue. I wonder what would have been returned if the right woman said, “can you take off your black glasses?”
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Chief RZ, thanks. It just drives me crazy when people promote or buy into the “America"/"White" race is always the bad guy. Sometimes we are/have been, but we are not unique in that respect, and more often than not we take extreme measures to avoid or correct past or future injustices, which is more than I can say for any other culture. More people need to educate themselves about the history of human cultures instead of just mouthing off in ignorance. BTW, you might be interested in a good book by a famous anthropologist - “Cannibals and Kings” by Marvin Harris.
I take it you were/are Navy? Retired USMC, myself.
He is pushing divisive nonsense.
You should really stop highlighting Obama’s faults. Yes, we know he and his church hate America and whitey, and that he looks down on all those hicks that love their churching and guns. Well, at least he looks down on those folks when he’s out with his limo leftist buddies in San Fran, and not when he’s standing in front of those Bible-thumpers and trying to get their votes....and please stop trying to push the most leftist Senator as some kind of bipartisan force. It just makes you sound brutally dishonest, and is frankly kind of embarrassing.
who the country has seen as a force of change.
And yes, definitely. Somebody who will stand up to all those other politicians and special interest groups and vote “present.” This guy is solid.
We need leaders, not followers
All the more reason to vote for McCain.
""That’s the problem with you lefties, you’re not willing to get your hands dirty. I’d suggest you roll up your sleeves.”
-Jack Bauer
Fred. Retired Air Force. Take a look at my profile/blog if you have some time.
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Whoopi Goldberg (wonder how she got a Jewish name) the crotch grabber. Totally irrevalent.
You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.
A savage with a cellphone is still a savage.
Fred,
I like this… a lot. With your permission, I’d like to use it.
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
Oh, and look who is wanting to take away peoples right to vote? Classic.
Believing that someone has no business doing something is not the same as wanting to ban them from doing said activity.
For example, you really have no business discussing anything of import...but no one here is talking about denying you the right to mangle whatever you talk about, even if it’s terribly important.
Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.
I’ll have to dig for it, not sure who first said it. The quote as I remember it was"A savage with a machinegun is still a savage, he merely kills more efficiently.” Believe it came from the late ‘40s or early ‘50s. And seems it came from a British officer fighting the Communist insurgents in Malay.
Still a good line. Perhaps we should look into making a poster using it!
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Classic Hannitized! YOU made that very argument on this very blog and we called you on it! Now, you puff yourself up with faux self-righteous indignation over the comment!
Ding, ding, ding!
Congratulations Proof, you win second prize for almost understanding sarcasm and irony.
The point of saying such is to emphasize the stupidity of coming the that conclusion.
Here, some one said they “had no business” voting, whereas I believe you actually spoke of taking the right to vote away from them. I correctly identified you as a “fascist” at that time.
Oh i see. This must be just like when Rob assumes something retarded its not lying, but when I assume something, its a lie. I get it.
You are precious proof. I never imagined you would come to that conclusion, never.
You should really stop highlighting Obama’s faults
Is that the adult version of “I am rubber and you are glue”. Thanks. You are so witty that I am left with nothing to say in response.
Yes, we know he and his church hate America and whitey, and that he looks down on all those hicks that love their churching and guns.
As I said before, it is hard to debate with someone who believes their own illusion and is not open to consideration.
You do an excellent job of representing someone with an open mind.
Well, at least he looks down on those folks when he’s out with his limo leftist buddies in San Fran, and not when he’s standing in front of those Bible-thumpers and trying to get their votes…
So you mean when John McCain talks about how Reaganesque he is, and how conservative....he is merely being a leader who speaks the truth?
I can’t do much with you bud....you are not open to consideration. This is a right-wing circle jerk. You are the recipient.
.and please stop trying to push the most leftist Senator as some kind of bipartisan force. It just makes you sound brutally dishonest, and is frankly kind of embarrassing.
Having a different approach is not partisan. Especially when a lot of his positions and character traits are conservative in nature.
The only thing that is embarrassing is watching you convince yourself with your false conclusions. Please demonstrate how my suggestions are not considerations and conclusions.
Except Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, because they don’t share her politics. She’s never seen a hard left liberal black man in a high position of power is what she means.
Yeah that is right, they aren’t liberal enough for Whoopi, the view is a stupid show and I am surprised it is still on the air.
Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World
Once again we get treated to the “I was just being sarcastic/facetious/playing devil’s advocate” line of shit. It can’t remember what it posts from hour to hour so it scuttles about, desperately trying to cover its ass.
Classic, indeed.
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2h, I ignore almost everything that insannitize, boob, sparkless and poodle publish (did I leave anybody out that should also be on that list). They usually have nothing to bring to the discussion but indirection and distraction.
You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.
The point of saying such is to emphasize the stupidity of coming the (sic) that conclusion.
Like the point of saying that you are mind numbingly stupid is redundant in light of the plethora of examples you give us?
Or should we point to all the mind numbingly dishonest things you have said as a means of demonstrating that all those times we thought you were playing stupid, you really weren’t playing?
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
I ignore almost everything that insannitize, boob, sparkless and poodle publish (did I leave anybody out that should also be on that list). They usually have nothing to bring to the discussion but indirection and distraction.
Well, that is typically how right-wing circle jerks work Doc. What can I tell ya?
Believing that someone has no business doing something is not the same as wanting to ban them from doing said activity.
Your smart Kenny. Now explain to me why people like Pilgram who say that certain Americans that make “too much” money, aren’t socialist.
If you are able to go two for two, I will be impressed.
You’re…
BatOne, Hotel, and anyone else: Just for future reference, anything I post that y’all think you’d like to borrow, bend, or steal, be my guest. 
This is a public forum, and therefore I have no “intellectual property rights” hangups.
I believe Hotel is correct as to the original quote re: savages and machine guns. I just updated it some. I’ve heard other versions also, including one that pertained to cannibals and expanding their menu via the Internet. As a general observation, it’s my opinion that the vast majority of people in the “civilized world”, specifically the USA, Britain, etc. have been much too insulated from the realities of the rest of the world. That’s beginning to change as those realities come to visit us in the form of certain categories of illegal aliens. I’m not referring to the honest hard working ones just looking for a better life, but to those who are associated with various gangs and primitive tribes. A lot of the world is still living in the stone age and acts like it.
...people like Pilgram (sic) who say that certain Americans that make “too much” money…
Where exactly did he say that pray tell? Too much trouble to provide a link?
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Or should we point to all the mind numbingly dishonest things you have said as a means of demonstrating that all those times we thought you were playing stupid, you really weren’t playing?
Please do. Because you have TONS....yet you only produced one, half assed example the last time you made this claim.
You can start with your conclusion that Obama never answered the Jimmy Carter question in the diner. Then you can move to the example where I stupidly said that Obama was referring to a long standing Liberal meme, that people in mid-west vote on issues like guns, religion because they feel they cant make a difference by voting on economic issues. Remember, when that I idea was such a stretch that you dismissed it out of hand...then low and behold a video shows up of Obama saying that same thing....in 2004?
All these examples of the mind numbingly stupid points, that nobody else brought up, somehow come from my mind. I am dumb, you are smart.
Thank all of you, for being so clear of thought and open minded. It’s a wonder to behold such exercises in thought and reason.
Where exactly did he say that pray tell? Too much trouble to provide a link?
Proof. Quit pretending as if you would answer honestly if I did provide the link. You are just going to make yourself look like the predictable, dishonest, apologist that you are.
Well, that is typically how right-wing circle jerks work Doc. What can I tell ya?
More misdirection and insults too. Thanks for proving my point about the value of your comments.
You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.
Doc,
What is your disfunction? You throw an insult by saying:
I ignore almost everything that insannitize, boob, sparkless and poodle publish (did I leave anybody out that should also be on that list). They usually have nothing to bring to the discussion but indirection and distraction.
....then expect me to remain silent? Typical. I thought you might be better than that?
Why do you ignore this argument? example:
Weasel,
Think a bit deeper for a moment. How does a black leader get the “black community” to follow him in a different direction? By abandoning and turning their back on them?
How about if he led by example? How about the idea that he listened to them and then when the world was watching, talked about the area where they may be misguided and mis-directed?
What better person to do this than a presidential candidate who the country has seen as a force of change.
We need a guy like Barack who bridges the gap between the mind set of yesterday (Wright) and pulls them to the mind set of tomorrow (Powell).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auco5TU8Y9g
Powell on Obama talking to Iran..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K4vj3yOZ60
I encourage you to think about this just a bit more. Don’t get caught up in all this emotional hyperbole Rob has been pushing. He is pushing divisive nonsense.
What do you think Obama would do if he were to get in power? Turn the tables so the “black man will have the whip hand over the white man”?
Right now blacks have humor, sports and black republican politicians who are generally dismissed when they express their own views that differ from the party. (Powell)
We need leaders, not followers.
or this one;
HG,
Good comments. It’s nice to see that someone has the ability to see the other persons perspective, even if they don’t agree with it.
I thought Goldbergs comments were pathetic, but I can understand why she said it. This double standard BS is driving me nuts. We have to get past this.
How much of a distraction is that?
You demonstrate the fact that this blog isnt interested in debate. It is only interested in having its ideas re-enforced, no matter how illogical, unreasonable. And it is prefers its challengers to be nice enough so that you can out of hand reject their ideas in either a smarmy, rude or arrogant way.
I don’t typically allow for that to occur, and when I try to play it as you pretend you want it played..i get slammed anyway.
You are only kidding yourself my friend. But people, who lack self confidence need to tear others down in order make themselves feel better. Good on ya.
Quit pretending as if you would answer honestly if I did provide the link.
Bullshit artist Hannitized strikes again! Unfounded allegations are his stock and trade!
Congratulations Proof, you win second prize for almost understanding sarcasm and irony.
More bullshit! Let me demonstrate for the Kahuna of the Kiddie Pool how one comments sarcastically in a forum such as this:
That Hannitized! He never posts anything dishonest or stupid! /sarcasm
See the “ /sarcasm” tag oh, brain dead one? That is how honest people communicate sarcasm. Dishonest bullshitters like you claim it after the fact, after you’ve had your ass handed to you! Pathetic!
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Unfounded allegations are his stock and trade!
Making false accusations is Robs game and also yours. I had the link, I was sitting on it to force you to commit to your stupid position that Pilgrim couldnt have said something that sounded so socialist. But, he did.
Now lets watch you squirm and talk about context, nuance and all that jazz you like to call bullshit when it comes out of my mouth. Hypocrite.
The point of my piece was that Dowd (besides the fact that Dowd’s an overpaid, bitter hack) couldn’t even manage to slam Hillary without slamming the annoited one as well.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/maureen_dowd_resorts_to_dr_seuss_to_tell_hillary_to_well_just_go
Now, it seems to me that a capitalist wouldn’t mind how much someone makes, why would you? But, that is just me being logical. I’m weird.
That is how honest people communicate sarcasm. Dishonest bullshitters like you claim it after the fact, after you’ve had your ass handed to you! Pathetic!
Pshaw....you are delusional on top of idiotic. Have fun making excuses for Pilgrim.
I have to be going now. It’s Oracle and NetApp fiscal year end. I have a .5mil deal with Oracle and Decru that I have to close by days end.
I will be dropping by to read your precious gems. Let me have it proof....i can’t wait.
Personally, I’ve never heard Pilgrim say that anyone made “too much money”. (Class envy being the almost exclusive purview of the Left!)
Could this just be the voices inside little Hannie’s pointy head again?
(BTW, Do the voices in Little Orphan Hannie’s pointy head wear pointy hats? )
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Or how about honesty, integrity and public service first. Air Force values, lived them: Integrity first, service before self, excellence in all we do.
There are so many good people “of color” like Thomas Sowell who are dismissed because of their “politics” it makes me wonder if many “people of color” can discriminate or even notice the differences without some “big bad daddy” to tell them what to do, who to vote for and how to react to everything in their lives.
I could relate numerous stories from 29 years of teaching in public school to illustrate more if anyone is interested.
Communism is evil
Hey Rob wouldn’t it just be easier to just nuke Hannitized so we didn’t have to read his crap? My God, It appears that Hannitized is just a liberal trol that doesn’t let the facts sway him that is probably nothing more than a paid obama staffer.
Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World
That’s IT? That’s ALL YOU’VE GOT? Pilgrim asserts that one individual makes too much money based on the inferiority of her performance and from THAT you postulate that
..people like Pilgram (sic) who say that certain Americans that make “too much” money…
One individual equals “certain Americans (plural)? And that wasn’t a “socialist” argument you dumb ass! It was an argument of merit! Are you seriously so brain dead that you would make that mistake?
And I thought you were dishonest before this! Holy cow generalizations like that only come from mind numbingly stupid or mind numbingly dishonest people or both! Which are you? (My money’s on “both”!)
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Please do. Because you have TONS....yet you only produced one, half assed example the last time you made this claim.
You can start with your conclusion that Obama never answered the Jimmy Carter question in the diner. Then you can move to the example where I stupidly said that Obama was referring to a long standing Liberal meme, that people in mid-west vote on issues like guns, religion because they feel they cant make a difference by voting on economic issues. Remember, when that I idea was such a stretch that you dismissed it out of hand...then low and behold a video shows up of Obama saying that same thing....in 2004?
All these examples of the mind numbingly stupid points, that nobody else brought up, somehow come from my mind. I am dumb, you are smart.
Thank all of you, for being so clear of thought and open minded. It’s a wonder to behold such exercises in thought and reason.
Why do you even bother posting here? I haven’t seen you do anything but attack people and troll everyone of Rob’s posts. I don’t get it? We get it your schill for Obama.
Hey Rob wouldn’t it just be easier to just nuke Hannitized so we didn’t have to read his crap?
Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World
Brain Dead Kahuna of the Kiddie Pool. Pilgrim, as a good capitalist doesn’t mind how much she makes per se, it’s how much she makes for the mindless dreck she produces. (I know you can identify with “mindless dreck, having produced so much of it yourself!)Now, it seems to me that a capitalist wouldn’t mind how much someone makes, why would you? But, that is just me being logical. I’m weird.
that is just me being logical. I’m weird
If you were wise, you would know that logic is only as good as one’s presuppositions. Your presuppositions are full of shit, therefore your logic is shitty as well. It leads you to the wrong conclusions. I’m glad you’re proud of shitty logic, but then, you already confessed to being “weird”. Heh.
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
If the rest of you milquetoasts won’t do it I will defend Pil!!
He did in fact say that Teddie Kennedy is paid too much money! He also said Nanny Pelosi is paid too much money. Ditto that saucy little ho Eliot"I’m Morally Superior To The Entire Human Race” Spitzer was banging. Along with Eliot"I’m Morally Superior To The Entire Human Race” Spitzer, that morally degenerate scumbag lawyer has been given far too much money. And sanni is paid too much money. How else can it buy all the meth it does?
Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem
Fred, thanks. I will probably have to go to the stacks to find the original. Came up dry with google.
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Whoopi Dahlin, “It’s Very Ignorant and Irresponsible To Believe That Policies Should Not Matter More Than Race Or Gender”
I said that, lol… and feel free to quote me
Squirmy worm says:
Pilgrim, as a good capitalist doesn’t mind how much she makes per se, it’s how much she makes for the mindless dreck she produces.
In America, people create their own worth and value, and are paid on such. Dowd, as much as you dislike her and her work, has tapped into something her employer sees value in and pays here for that talent.
Much like Michele Wee, who hasn’t won crap gets a pretty penny from Nike....isn’t fair...for what she produces. She is a marketing phenomenon.
Congratulations....you have discovered capitalism in America.
Now the question remains. Why do you and Pilgrim hate American capitalism so much?
Now the question remains. (Inside the little voices in his head) Why do you and Pilgrim hate American capitalism so much?
Thanks for not answering any of the questions we posed Insannitized! Congratulations! You remain the biggest joke* here, hands down!
*Mind numbingly stupid/ mind numbingly dishonest division
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Dowd, as much as you dislike her and her work, has tapped into something her employer sees value in and pays here (sic) for that talent.
Kinda like a “pet rock”, eh?
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Since Obama is half black & half white, doesn’t that make him look like both? OR is Obama saying he is a black man? I’m confused!
That’s IT? That’s ALL YOU’VE GOT? Pilgrim asserts that one individual makes too much money based on the inferiority of her performance and from THAT you postulate that
Proof, please accept the incredibly intelligent 2hotels “defense” of pilgrim as other examples.
If the rest of you milquetoasts won’t do it I will defend Pil!!
He did in fact say that Teddie Kennedy is paid too much money! He also said Nanny Pelosi is paid too much money. Ditto that saucy little ho Eliot"I’m Morally Superior To The Entire Human Race” Spitzer was banging. Along with Eliot"I’m Morally Superior To The Entire Human Race” Spitzer, that morally degenerate scumbag lawyer has been given far too much money.
So much fun.....so little time.
Thanks for not answering any of the questions we posed Insannitized!
What questions? Bring it.
If I missed one, it wasn’t intentional.
Proof,
Now the question remains. Why do you and Pilgrim hate American capitalism so much?
Still waiting?
Wrong again, Hannie! The argument (if your infantile mind could wrap itself around the concept) is NOT socialism (as you stated) or classism, but competence. ANOTHER concept you’re not familiar with!please accept the incredibly intelligent 2hotels “defense” of pilgrim as other examples
If you’re not going to bring an argument, just say so!
What questions?
Spoken like the moron you are! Yesterday, I quoted one of your own questions, and right under it, I said: I could ask the same question of you and you asked the same stupid question then: “What question?”
Until you bring more than a 2 year old’s mentality to the blog, why should I waste me time with you? Again, I used to think you were merely acting stupid. Who knew you weren’t acting?
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Now the question remains. Why do you and Pilgrim hate American capitalism so much?
My question remains:
How’s the view from your anal necklace, Hannie?
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Squirmy worm proof dried up in the sun and thought he got a tan.
That is it. I am done with this site. I am dead certain 80% of your pool is fucking retarded Ron.
Seriously, dude.....that is just fucking complete lunacy. Go back to school, you lack basic reading comprehension skills. It explains a lot though.
Hannitized on January 7, 2008 at 08:04 pm
Were you lying then, or are you lying now?
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
And, as I pointed out on another thread, the “Ron” that the worm obsessed one was talking about, was in fact “Rob”.
Hannie’s fine attention to detail has not improved in the last three and a half months!
Nor, has his ability to find the door or punch his way out of a paper sack!
(The paper sack, coincidentally, being the difference between Hannitized and a sack of dog shit!)
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Three and a half months of whining, crying, lying, slandering and promising, promising, promising to take his dishonest lying ass out of here never to return, but like a bad case of the clap, Hannitized is hard to get rid of!
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
After having established beyond any shadow of a doubt that Whoopi is a racist, we have moved on to kicking sannitized in what is left of its teeth. Repeatedly. Its stupidity spew in this thread clearly shows it to be a massive drug addict. Perhaps we should contact its parents, so they can do an intervention. Or shoot it in the head. Put it out of their misery.
Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem
Now the question remains. Why do you and Pilgrim hate American capitalism so much?
Gilligan?
Now the question remains. Why do you and Pilgrim hate American capitalism so much?
Seriously, dude.....that is just fucking complete lunacy. Go back to school, you lack basic reading comprehension skills. It explains a lot though.
Heh.
For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.
Frederick W. Kagan
Hey Rob wouldn’t it just be easier to just nuke Hannitized so we didn’t have to read his crap?
Another nutter, calling for the freedom of speech to be taken away from opposing voices.
Now we can add Facism to the list. See, you guys are teaching me “good”.
Another nutter, calling for the freedom of speech to be taken away from opposing voices.
Now we can add Facism to the list. See, you guys are teaching me “good”.
You add nothing to the conversation, not one bit. All you do is attack people that don’t drink the Leftwing kool aid. I know for a fact that the leftwing dogma is flawed and wrong and no matter what you say it won’t change any of our opinion. I have yet to see you say anything that is civil on this blog. Why not go over to the Huffingtonpost or Daily Kooks blog they speak your language over ther
