Who The Terror Apologists Support

Some of you may be familiar with a group called the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR. This is a group that describes itself as the “Muslim NAACP.” Some of its leaders stood by President Bush and Colin Powell as those men spoke out against backlash against Muslims in the wake of 9/11. CAIR spokespeople are routinely quoted as authorities on the Muslim-American community and the relationship between Islam and the American population in general.
To many this group may sound benignly positive, even necessary, in this age of extreme tension between westerners and practitioners of Islam. The truth about this group, however, will probably shock a lot of people.
To quote Daniel Pipes and Sharon Chadha:

…there is another side to CAIR that has alarmed many people in positions to know. The Department of Homeland Security refuses to deal with it. Senator Charles Schumer (Democrat, New York) describes it as an organization “which we know has ties to terrorism.”[3] Senator Dick Durbin (Democrat, Illinois) observes that CAIR is “unusual in its extreme rhetoric and its associations with groups that are suspect.”[4] Steven Pomerantz, the FBI’s former chief of counterterrorism, notes that “CAIR, its leaders, and its activities effectively give aid to international terrorist groups.”[5] The family of John P. O’Neill, Sr., the former FBI counterterrorism chief who perished at the World Trade Center, named CAIR in a lawsuit as having “been part of the criminal conspiracy of radical Islamic terrorism”[6] responsible for the September 11 atrocities. Counterterrorism expert Steven Emerson calls it “a radical fundamentalist front group for Hamas.”[7]
Of particular note are the American Muslims who reject CAIR’s claim to speak on their behalf. The late Seifeldin Ashmawy, publisher of the New Jersey-based Voice of Peace, called CAIR the champion of “extremists whose views do not represent Islam.”[8] Jamal Hasan of the Council for Democracy and Tolerance explains that CAIR’s goal is to spread “Islamic hegemony the world over by hook or by crook.”[9] Kamal Nawash, head of Free Muslims Against Terrorism, finds that CAIR and similar groups condemn terrorism on the surface while endorsing an ideology that helps foster extremism, adding that “almost all of their members are theocratic Muslims who reject secularism and want to establish Islamic states.”

CAIR’s fostering of extremist Islam varies from the laughable – like their photoshopping of hijabs onto the bare heads of women pictured at a photo-op – to the horrifying, like their blatant antisemitism and support for Muslim supremacy. To this observer, it seems as though CAIR is little more than a well-funded propaganda group aimed at downplaying and whitewashing the danger of Islamic terrorism and extremism.
In 1998 the group demanded the removal of a billboard in Los Angeles which depicted Osama bin Laden as “America’s sworn enemy.”
In April of 2005 the founder of a Texas chapter of CAIR was convicted of supporting terrorism.
Shortly after the 9/11 attacks CAIR was caught misdirecting funds they were allegedly gathering for 9/11 relief to Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, a group that later had its funds frozen by the Treasury Department because the group was funding Hamas. Later, in 2004, the Holy Land Foundation was indicted for conspiracy, providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization, tax evasion and money laundering (a case that is still in the works).
Just this year CAIR was pressuring schools to white wash the events of 9/11 in school textbooks in order to avoid giving students a bad impression of Islam.
I could go on and on about CAIR’s connections to international terrorism and their efforts to downplay the threat of terrorism here in America, but those examples should tell you pretty much all you need to know about this group.
So why am I telling you all of this about CAIR? Certainly America has its fair share of radical, extremist, racist groups…so what does it matter that CAIR represents one more entry in that category? It matters because we are in the midst of a war against the very ideology CAIR supports, and many of our elected leaders seem to have political agendas that match up much too closely with CAIR’s for comfort.

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  • http://steveshodgepodge.blogspot.com/ Steve Harkonnen

    AOW presents two interesting questions:

    Q: Why is CAIR even allowed to have any offices here in the United States?

    A: Thanks to tolerance and pandering, it’s allowed. Thanks to the inactions of our president, it’s allowed. Thanks to the old world league of nations method of thought, it’s allowed.

    Q: Must we promote the subversion of our nation?

    A: We’ve been promoting that since the end of WWII. We’ve allowed our borders to be opened up so that virtually anyone can cross it. We’ve been promoting “multi-culturalism,” which is a total joke; all that does is dilute our security and our national pride.

  • Friend of USA

    Rob if I were a zillionaire I’d buy a few pages in a few Newspaper and post this story.

    The facts are simply amazing, I nearly fell off my chair when I saw how many Democrats were on that list!

    Everyone should know about that list and what CAIR is really about.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    The headline says “who the terror apologists support”. Rob’s got a list of who they gave money to for whatever their reasons. By the way, it’s maddening that they support Rob’s congressman, Earl Pomeroy.

  • http://pillageidiot.blogspot.com/ Attila (Pillage Idiot)

    Where do we find out the issues or votes on which CAIR based its rankings? I mean, we can all guess, but it would be nice to see specifics.

    Just wondering, because I know Robert Wexler (D-FL) is strongly pro-Israel, which ought to count against him in CAIR’s eyes, and I believe a bunch of the others are, too, including Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL).

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Dave seems tense. Too much coffee or (insert Airplane II line here).

    It’s a simple fact that Kerry and Kennedy are nearly identical. One group might see Kennedy 100% liberal and Kerry 99% liberal. Another group may see Kerry 100% liberal and Kennedy 99% liberal.

    I fail to see any distinction.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    There’s no possible way he’s more liberal than Ted Kennedy or Barbara Boxer

    He’s got that going for him. He’s also not as big a liar as Bill Clinton.

  • http://www.freerepublicans.com/ FreeRepublicans.com

    Which isn’t surprising because the people making the “we should just declare victory in the war on terror” argument lately are all libertarians.

    Libertarians were split on the war since Day 1. (It’s how I ended up associating with the GOP because I supported the war and most LPers didn’t)

    Libertarians don’t support war in general, certainly not war in the name of Global Democratic Revolution. This is where Libertarians and Buchananites do see eye to eye.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Or maybe they have additional reasons to give money to those congressmen.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    So you agree with what I wrote,

    No I was using Sarcasm to make a point that it doesn’t make a difference between the liberalism of Kerry and Kennedy. Sorry it was over your head.

    and have just been pointlessly arguing for the sake of arguing. Lovely.

    No, I just joined the conversation to make a point that you had no point.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Cause I like to think I’m better than that.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I misread, my mistake those Congressmen did not take money from these folks.

    Sorry.

    Once again I learn to read carefully before I jump in.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Ummm, right above the comments.

  • gregdn

    I’m surprised to see Howard Berman (who’s from my neck of the woods) on the list. He’s a staunch supporter of Israel.
    Could there be some mistake?

  • http://wizbangblog.com/ Kim Priestap

    Thanks for posting this information, Rob.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I have always supported infanticide.

    I hope you get a chance to debate the issue in your next job interview.

  • Bat One

    It’s interesting, if not terribly surprising, that the same Heather Wilson noted here earlier for her attempts to outlaw electronic surveillance except for a 45 day period AFTER and attack, shows up as one of the few Republicans endorsed by CAIR.

    Along with John Murtha, Cynthia McKinney, and nearly all the Democrats’ House leadership.

  • http://www.rigoletto.com/blogger.html ZZMike

    Democrats that are on CAIR’s list who are also in the Progressive Caucus: Abercrombie, Baldwin, Becerra, C. Brown, S. Brown, Capuano, Carson, Clay, Cleaver, Conyers, Cummings, Davis, DeLauro, Evans, Farr, Fattah, Filner, Frank, Grijalva, Gutierrez, Jackson, Jackson-Lee, Jones, Kaptur, Kilpatrick, Kucinich, Lantos, B. Lee, Lewis, Markey, McDermott, McGovern, McKinney, Miller, G. Moore, Nadler, Olver, Owens, Pastor, Payne, Rangel, Rush, Sanders, Schakowsky, Serrano, Slaughter, Solis, Stark, B. Thompson, Tierney, T. Udall, Waters, Watson, Watt, Waxman, Woolsey.

    Not on CAIR’s list: Bordallo, Christensen, DeFazio, Hinchey, Holmes-Norton, Velazquez.

    Not surprising, as these people would likely vote together as a bloc.

    It is surprising how many Progressives there are in the House. More than the last time I looked, last year. Currently sixty-two, or 14%.

    Also interesting, that CAIR’s ratings are either 0% or 100%. Sounds like a case of “you’re either with us or against us”.

  • http://bamapachyderm.com/ Beth

    OK, I looked at some of the other groups, like the ones that are against Israel (for all practical purposes). Ros-Lehtinen and the two Diaz-Balarts are fine with those ratings, but Ron Paul? He’s voted consistently with the dhimmis on the foreign policy issues (per Vote Smart). And here’s another little thing I found that he wrote–published at Counterpunch. This too. UGH. Why the f*ck does this asshole call himself a “Republican?” He’s NOT. His opponent in the election is more of a friggin Republican than he is. (At least he calls himself a “conservative Democrat!”) F Ron Paul. I don’t even care about his other issues when he’s like this with national security/foreign policy.

  • http://bamapachyderm.com/ Beth

    Well, the Real ID thing explains the three from Florida, considering it covers asylum-seekers as well (including Cubans). I can see why they would oppose it for that reason alone, even if they’re strongly anti-terror (anti-CAIR). I’d give Ros-Lehtinen and the two Diaz-Balarts a pass on this one. The other five, though, can kiss my ass.

  • http://www.freerepublicans.com/ FreeRepublicans.com

    Ron Paul is a Libertarian in every sense of the word.

    Are you sure what they rank as “supporting CAIR” isn’t Ron just voting against government involvement entirely?

  • 2Hotel9

    Wow, CAIR really knows how to help their friends! I wants me some friends like CAIR!

  • Charles

    Read The Letter at the end from Project Vote

    Hi Rob,
    The ratings from CAIR came in that percentage form i.e. We did not convert them. That said, they were – as you suspected – based upon a single vote (The Real ID Act). This is rare. But, nonetheless, that’s where the figures came from.

  • Doug Purdie

    Uh Oh! Richard Pombo is my Congressman. I was considering not voting for him because one, he is an incumbant and two, he is tainted by Abramoff money. But, his Democratic challenger is soft on the war on terrorism. I was under the impression that Pombo wasn’t. I guess I’ll have to do some research on the other candidates.

  • Babs

    Oh God! My congressman, Timothy Bishop is on the 100% list.

  • robert108

    Ah, the Peaceful, Tolerant Vegan speaks.

  • Robohobo

    Well, good post and it points out that kitman is alive and weel in the US. The supporters of Islam in this country do not realise their peril.

    That being said, Heather Wilson is in my district. I will vote for her. The alternative, NM Atty Gen Patricia Madrid IS a bleeding heart libtard. I wouldn’t vote her in as dog catcher in a town filled with rabid rottweilers (well, on second thought)……

    On all other issues Wilson is solid. She votes the party consistently.

    The Hobo

  • Dave

    The ratings from CAIR came in that percentage form i.e. We did not convert them. That said, they were – as you suspected – based upon a single vote (The Real ID Act).

    Jeez. It reminds me of that “John Kerry is the most liberal senator meme!”, a ranking that was based on like 17 votes from just one year. Why do people take this seriously?

  • http://bamapachyderm.com/ Beth

    Yeah, I was kinda surprised to see Ileana Ros-Lehtinen on there too. And considering the scores are either 0 or 100, it leads me to believe the ratings are based on one vote. I wonder what that vote was?
    I don’t get it. None of these are my people, but I’m not sure that one vote of theirs would make me change my vote (although that depends, of course).

    Maybe it’s something to do with immigration? (Just guessing.)

  • Philip Saenz

    Let’s not call liberals PROGRESSIVES! That’s horrendous! Liberals are in the habit of destroying every thing that is beautiful. Liberals destroy babies before they’re born. They destroy our schools. They destroy minds. They are purveyors of destruction! They, too, should be called terrorists. So let us never call them progressives. THEY ARE LIBERALS! Period!

  • http://www.islamanazi.com/ Rastaman

    So the CAIR rating is based entirely on a single vote. A vote against the Real ID Act put a person on the 100% side of the CAIR list. While I agree that the Democrats generally are less alarmed by the muslim problem, I have to say that I don’t think that one vote means all those people are in favor of CAIR. I’m willing to bet that by now, a year after that vote, that most if not all of them are well aware of just exactly what a crew of scumbags CAIR is. The same applies to the few Republicans that voted Nay.

    This is the problem with party partisanship. People will follow the leader like lemmings and look to their party bosses to tell them which way to vote instead of using their own common sense and being concerned with how their vote will affect America and their home-state constituents. Which tells me that maybe a lot of them actually don’t have any common sense.

    Anyway, while I’m not nuts about a lot of stuff the Democrats like, I have problems with a few items on the Republican Love List too. No one has a hammerlock on all the truth. All Republicans are not conservatives, all Democrats are not liberals. Most Democrats unfortunately tend to be liberals, so of course CAIR would rather align with them, but I bet most Democrats would rather not align with CAIR. Liberal doesn’t necessarily mean stupid…. At least not always. :)

    So I take that CAIR list with a grain of salt, since it’s only based on a yea or nay vote one time, a year ago. Who knows where all those peoples heads are at now?

    Bottom line is that Liberalism is affordable in peacetime but this isn’t peacetime. The liberals on both sides need to get with it or be voted out. The world has changed and a lot of freedoms have to be given up if we’re to win. Either bite the bullet or buy a prayer rug. That’s the choice.

    Rastaman
    http://www.islamanazi.com

  • 2Hotel9

    Kerry’s entire political record labels him a liberal and a leftard. You think not, davey?

  • http://steveshodgepodge.blogspot.com/ Steve Harkonnen

    Interesting post. I’ve passed this on to Andrew Whitehead of Anti-CAIR. Hopefully he will post a comment.

  • Dave

    This is not a “fake” concern you fucking idiot. CAIR released a ranking that wasbased on insufficient date and inaccurate. I pointed out that the National Journal had done the same thing back in ’04. Then Whistler started arguing for the sake of arguing.

    Whistler:

    it doesn’t make a difference between the liberalism of Kerry and Kennedy.

    If a lazy ranking based on insufficient evidence states that Kerry is more liberal than Kennedy (and, in fact, that Kerry is the most liberal of all), and the more accurate rankings state that Kerry is NOT the most liberal senator (and that Kennedy is more liberal than him), we have seen that the first rankings are flawed.

    Don’t you have a fucking job or something?

  • 2Hotel9

    Then you best seperate you from yourself damn quick, davey.

  • Jokerman66

    Bottom line is that Liberalism is affordable in peacetime but this isn’t peacetime. The liberals on both sides need to get with it or be voted out. The world has changed and a lot of freedoms have to be given up if we’re to win. Either bite the bullet or buy a prayer rug. That’s the choice.

    Hardly. This “war” we are in consists of what? 9/11? This hardly compares to the incessant bombings of London by the Germans — day after day. May more killed. AND GUESS WHAT? They showed backbone. We act like little girls afraid of spiders. These “terrorists” suck. They have got nothing. Quit being so afraid of them. When did Americans become such wimps?

    Bite the bullet. Yeah, bite the bullet and grow a backbone.

  • Dave

    Kerry’s entire political record labels him a liberal and a leftard. You think not, davey?

    I can think of a few senators with more liberal records than Kerry. I can think of a lot with more liberal records than his running mate, John Edwards. Senators vote on thousands of thousands of bills a year; these type of rankings that grade everyone based on how they voted on 20 issues in just one year are very flawed, as we’ve seen with these CAIR rankings.

    And it’s fucking “whom.”

  • Dave

    He’s got that going for him.

    So you agree with what I wrote, and have just been pointlessly arguing for the sake of arguing. Lovely.

  • michael

    Now that you guys have sucessfully diverted attention away from the datum that the CAIR rating was based on a single vote out of hundreds, or thousands, you can deal with Davey.
    I suggest you put on your brown shirts, hunt him down, and give him a good thrashing. Afterwards, you can enjoy a few beers and a good song. Here, I’ll get you started:

    Die Fahne Hoch, die Reihen fest geschlossen
    Die Strasse frei, den braunen Batallionen

    you know the rest of the words, don’t you? Join in anytime!

  • Dave

    Dave seems tense. Too much coffee or (insert Airplane II line here).

    Maybe he’s just sick of dealing with idiots.

  • http://www.campus-watch.org/ Dirty Jack Cash

    Dave seems tense. Too much coffee

    Maybe he’s just sick of dealing with idiots.
    Dave on September 15, 2006 at 12:16 PM


    He’s with himself 24/7/365

  • 2Hotel9

    davey gonna squeeze a tear out for us now. I have a job, doing it between posting here. Why? Because it pisses you off, davey.

  • http://alwaysonwatch.blogspot.com/ Always On Watch

    A friend of mine alerted me to this outstanding article. Well done!

    CAIR and its subversiveness of our culture is what made me jump into the blogosphere. I found a book placed by their library project–a book so filled with lies that I almost had a stroke reading it.

    Why is CAIR even allowed to have any offices here in the United States? Must we promote the subversion of our nation?

  • 2Hotel9

    Mike, he is a wise man. If he gives you advice you should probably listen.

  • 2Hotel9

    Inane circular arguments are all davey has. Notice he avoids addressing the actual topic, just expressing a fake concern for his hero, JFKerry.

  • 2Hotel9

    Come on, Toot. This is davey we are talking about. Remeber? Infanticide boy? And when people held his feet to the fire on that one he blew it off with”I did not really mean that.” So anything you say to him is fine, cause he really does not mean or believe anything he posts.

  • michael

    Would you characterize a vote against the patriot act as a vote in support of CAIR?

    Would you characterize a vote against gay marriage rights as a vote in support of CAIR? It demonstrably is something they would support. That puts a big chunk of the Republican members “in support of CAIR”.

  • 2Hotel9

    Now davey gonna cry? WAAAAA! Your such a self absorbed hoser.

  • http://jihadwatch.org/ Bezu Fache

    the CAIR rating was based on a single vote out of hundreds, or thousands,
    michael on September 17, 2006 at 11:30 AM

    Good try!

    Your faulty assumption that led to your flawed conclusion is that there were hundreds maybe even thousands of votes on CAIR that year, and out of those, the politicians only voted once to support CAIR.
    How many votes on this issue were there that year?
    Do you even know?

    If there was only “ONE” vote, and the politician voted in favor of CAIR, would you concede that the level of support was 100%?

    Stunning affirmation of my original thesis

    More arrogant liberal vomit!!

  • http://jihadwatch.org/ Bezu Fache

    Michael

    Now that you guys have sucessfully diverted attention away from the datum that the CAIR rating was based on a single vote out of hundreds, or thousands….brown shirts…Nazis…singing german folksongs..beerhalls…and more liberal vomit etc

    The ratings indicate the degree that each elected official supported the interests of the CAIR in that year.So it wasn’t hundreds or thousands.

    Michael’s remark is just another example of exagerated emotional hyperbole in place of facts.

    Here’s CAIR’s rating list of politicians friendly to their cause.

    LIST

  • Mike

    An African American friend of mine stated to me once in a political debate over the NAACP that they were in his words ” the most racist group the world has ever seen”. When speaking to him the other day about the CAIR he stated. “The NAACP has some competition.”

    And he is a US gov. employee

  • michael

    One vote (that happened to be on a bill CAIR was ineterested in) out of hundreds cast (on all bills) by the House. Your willful refusal to understand speaks volumes.
    If a representative voted in favor of a bill that by coincidence was one favored by, oh, say Opus Dei, would that mean he voted to “support” Opus Dei?
    If you say yes, you are irretrievably stupid and further discussion is pointless. Bills are voted for and against for all sorts of reasons. Real ID is a hideous invasion of privacy, and should have been voted down. The fact that there was a tangential interest in the bill by CAIR, and that they chose to trumpet opposition to the bill as “support” of their cause, was a propaganda ploy intended to suck in the gullible and stupid.
    Obviously, it worked like a charm.
    We who look at bills on their own merits and not on what fringe group might “support” or “oppose” the bill are able to bring a somewhat more mature perspective to the table.

  • http://jihadwatch.org/ Bezu Fache

    Would you characterize a vote against the patriot act as a vote in support of CAIR?

  • http://jihadwatch.org/ Bezu Fache

    How many votes does the Senate cast a year? According to you, it’s fewer than 100

    Sorry Davey boy- the question is not how many votes the senate casts a year but rather how many did they cast about support of CAIR in a year.

  • michael

    Bezu

    The ratings indicate the degree that each elected official supported the interests of the CAIR in that year.So it wasn’t hundreds or thousands.

    Stunning affirmation of my original thesis, i.e., one vote. Real ID is a stinker no matter which side of the aisle you’re on, and for that chance coincidence to be used to condemn reps as “supporting CAIR” is moronic, at best.
    As someone who ecstatically supported Reagan, I’ll let your “liberal vomit” slide. I can recognize a brown-shirting when I see one, though. I’m sure Dave has a history here that provokes such reaction; his point about skewed statistics was dead-on.

  • http://jihadwatch.org/ Bezu Fache

    It’s not a matter of it being a true or false question about one vote Dave but a question about the degree of support.
    Since you and Michael wanted to split hairs over numbers I asked:
    If there was only “ONE” vote, and the politician voted in favor of CAIR’s interests, would you concede that the level of support was 100%?

    So, if there were 5 votes on bills that supported CAIR’s interest and a Senator voted 5 times in favor of it, that would also be 100%.

    Please, by all means, take Rob’s list and break it down for us by Representaive and then by vote.

    Then tell us why you feel that their support or lack of support for a prticular bill proves or disproves your assertion.

  • Dave

    The ratings indicate the degree that each elected official supported the interests of the CAIR in that year.So it wasn’t hundreds or thousands.

    How many votes does the Senate cast a year? According to you, it’s fewer than 100.

  • Dave

    Bezu: All this list tells us is how our Congressmen voted on the Real ID act. That’s it. Nothing else. Rob’s even dropped it, and he started the damn thread. Give it up.

  • http://jihadwatch.org/ Bezu Fache

    Time to go to work…
    Don’t miss me too much Dave
    Sincerely,
    Bezu “Dave’s Best Friend” Fache

  • robert108

    TW: In fact, it is the epitome of “a distinction without a difference.”

  • Dave

    Oh Whistler, it’s never too late to learn how to read.

  • 2Hotel9

    So now you are saying you do support infanticide?

  • robert108

    Dave: Since you are known to be unable to do simple logic, I will school you.

    1. Hitler rode a bicycle. 2. George Bush rides a bicycle. 3. George Bush supports Hitler!!!

    The missing step: Everybody who rides a bicycle supports everyone else who rides a bicycle in everything.
    If you had said that, your syllogism might have added up, except that the statement is obviously untrue. Try again.

  • http://jihadwatch.org/ Bezu Fache

    Rastaman

    I’m willing to bet that by now, a year after that vote, that most if not all of them are well aware of just exactly what a crew of scumbags CAIR is. The same applies to the few Republicans that voted Nay.

    I’m not so sure about this Rastaman. It’s easy to find out who is still in bed with them!

  • 2Hotel9

    Round and round and round,,,,,,,

  • Dave

    And when people held his feet to the fire on that one he blew it off with”I did not really mean that.”

    You’ve made this claim in like 3 different threads now (am I that fascinating to you?). Can you at least link to it so I can see how exactly you’re twisting it? Thanks. (If you’re not twisting my words, you have nothing to hide.)

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  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Denial Dave:

    All rankings show Kerry as a very liberal Senator.

  • Alexander Alt

    “Democrats: Striving Every Day to Protect the Rights of Terrorists, from Evil Americans Who Might Do Them Harm.”

  • Dave

    I agree. Just one showed him as the most liberal senator. There’s no possible way he’s more liberal than Ted Kennedy or Barbara Boxer. The National Journal admitted to the ways in which their “famous” rankings were wrong. The accurate rankings are here: (http://www.alternet.org/election04/19507/)

    Kerry came in at No. 11, behind my aforementioned Kennedy and Boxer, as well as “Say Anything” regulars like Durbin and Leahy. Edwards was, not surprisingly for a southern senator, actually in the moderate wing of the party.

  • Dave

    Rob’s got a list of who they gave money to for whatever their reasons.

    Where is this list? My spidey sense isn’t working today.

  • http://jihadwatch.org/ Bezu Fache

    One vote (that happened to be on a bill CAIR was ineterested in) out of hundreds cast (on all bills) by the House…. a representative voted in favor of a bill… by coincidence

    OK…coincidence then. I’ll accept that. A far cry from “Stunning affirmation of my original thesis”

  • robert108

    Dave: Tell us about it; you do it all the time.

  • Dave

    1. Terror Apologists oppose the Real ID Act.
    2. 160 Congressmen opposed the Real ID Act.
    3. Therefore, these 160 Congressmen support the terror apologists.

    ————————————-

    1. Hitler rode a bicycle.
    2. George Bush rides a bicycle.
    3. George Bush supports Hitler!!!

    These are fun! It’s amazing what you can say when you abandon entirely the rules of logic.

  • Dave

    By the way, I (and almost every conservative on this blog) agree with the Ku Klux Klan on affirmative action. This does not mean we agree with them on, say, lynching black people.

  • 2Hotel9

    davey don’t, why should you?

  • Dave

    Bezu, True or False:

    The CAIR rankings Rob posted in this story are based on exactly one vote.

  • aNONOMISLY

    Good investigating report, rob.

    CAIR is nothing but a Wolf in Sheeps clothing.

    I only had time to check one person; Congressman Benjamin Cardin (D) who wants my vote for Senator. According to CAIR he is 100%! But when I checked at AIPAC http://www.aipac.org… he voted the way I wanted him to vote on several occasions as a supporter of Israel. In fact I think he spoke at the Stand with Israel rally in DC over the summer.

    Ben Cardin is also a Jew.

  • dave

    Whistler:

    Or maybe they have additional reasons to give money to those congressmen.

    What money, when did they give it, how do you know this? Buck the trend and state a fact.

  • Dave

    I wrote:

    Will you pussy out again?

    2hotel9 responds with:

    Yes! Because I never have proof of my allegations, because I just make shit up all the time!

  • Friend of USA

    1. Hitler rode a bicycle.
    2. George Bush rides a bicycle.
    3. George Bush supports Hitler!!!

    I like this game. let me try,

    1. American leftists hate the USA as it is now.
    2. Islamic terrorists hate the USA as it is now
    3. They support each other!!!

    Ok I admit it I needed an excuse to show my new
    “G” rated Gravatar…

  • Shifra

    Sorry to cross post with another blog but I think it very important we cross check these rankings before we go voting off some maybe good people.

    I only had time to check one person; Congressman Benjamin Cardin (D) who wants my vote for Senator. According to CAIR he is 100%! But when I checked at AIPAC http://www.aipac.org… he voted the way I wanted him to vote on several occasions as a supporter of Israel. In fact I think he spoke at the Stand with Israel rally in DC over the summer.

  • Dave

    You’ve quoted me as saying “I did not really mean that” without A)Telling me what “that” means or B)Providing a link to this quote.

    I have always supported infanticide. You are the one making the positive claim here: provide proof that I’ve changed my mind on this issue.

    It looks like your feet are on the fire now. Will you pussy out again?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I don’t care if Ron Paul is a libertarian, if CAIR is giving hima 100% rating then he’s dead wrong on foreign policy…at least so far as the war on terror goes.

    Which isn’t surprising because the people making the “we should just declare victory in the war on terror” argument lately are all libertarians.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I wish I had more information on how CAIR came up with these rankings, but it just doesn’t seem to be out there.

    Though, from what I can tell looking at the list, stance on American foreign policy seems more important than support for Israel. CAIR seems to be supporting the politicians who would have us pull out of the middle east and be less aggressive about fighting against the war on terror.

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