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Tuesday, March 04, 2008

Who Said Home Foreclosures Were A Bad Thing?

One family’s loss is another’s gain.

If you’re facing foreclosure, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson wants to help. “If someone is willing to make a call to reach out,” says Paulson, “there’s a chance we can save their homes.” But Paulson can’t save these homes because the homes are not endangered in the first place. They stand to change hands, not to vanish.

None of these foreclosed houses is going to disappear. After a foreclosure, one family moves out, and another moves in. We see the sad faces of the people moving out, but we don’t as often see the happy faces of the new homeowners moving in. Nevertheless, those happy faces are out there, and we should not discount them.

What I’ve never understood about the debate over the subprime “crisis” and home foreclosures was why should bail out people who made poor borrowing decisions.  Or, from the other perspective, why we should bail out companies who made poor lending choices.  If we insulate people from the consequences of their bad decisions do we not empower them to keep making those bad decisions?

When I see a home get foreclosed I don’t just see a family moving out, I see an opportunity for another family to move in.  More than likely at a bargain price.  And what’s so bad about that?  Nobody likes to see a family lose their home, but those homes aren’t going to stay empty so the societal impact ends up being neutral.  One family loses a home, another gains one.

Certainly this isn’t something we should try to “fix” with crafty policy schemes or the expenditure of large sums of tax dollars.

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By and large these foreclosed upon homeowners couldn’t afford the houses they were buying.

If there is a cause to this mess it’s that houses are too expensive now days for the average folks to move in.

Rising home prices don’t even benefit the people living in them as all they get is more house to pay taxes on. 

Why are home prices so high.  I would wager that the only party really at fault is government through protecting owls that don’t need protection, environmental regulations and building codes.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on March 4, 2008 at 07:26 am

Certainly this isn’t something we should try to “fix” with crafty policy schemes or the expenditure of large sums of tax dollars.

Amen to that. If you let the parties off the hook this time then what lesson will they take away for the next time?


"The nation has been hypnotized by the swaying and the gesturing of the Watusi and the Frug.”
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MikeAdamson on March 4, 2008 at 07:49 am

TW

I would wager that the only party really at fault is government through protecting owls that don’t need protection, environmental regulations and building codes.

There’s lots of blame to go around. Thismight help.


"The nation has been hypnotized by the swaying and the gesturing of the Watusi and the Frug.”
*J. Helms*

MikeAdamson on March 4, 2008 at 07:57 am

A lot of the people who are loosing their homes bought way to much home, and purchased for speculative purposes.

Two years ago a 3 bedroom house in my area could cost $500,000. The price had been driven up by a frenzy of people hoping make a killing in real estate by flipping their house a year later when it went up to $700,000. Now the same houses are going for $250,000.

A lot of the people who are stuck with bad mortgages are people who refinanced when prices were at their peek so they could buy RVs, ATVs, and ski boats. Now they have a garage full of toys and can’t refinance their house into a lower interest rate.

Who’s fault is it if someone decides to make risky real estate investments using bad loans? Who’s fault is it if someone shose to pull equity out of their house for a new sports car and a trip to France?

Not the taxpayers.

Wing Chun Geologist on March 4, 2008 at 08:24 am

Wing.  Correct.  They BET on the housing market.  Now they are trying to hide behind public opinion.  But, all this would not have occurred had it not been for the social democrats with the pen of Jimmy Carter.


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Chief RZ on March 4, 2008 at 08:34 am

Yep.

I live in a brand new neighborhood:


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A fair number of the smaller places (first round of construction) are in foreclosure.  Almost all of those were bought on speculation.


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Rodney Graves on March 4, 2008 at 09:31 am
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Bailing these people out is rewarding reckless speculation, ignorance and/or stupidity, which will ensure more in the future.
... But that’s easy for me to say, I bought a house I could afford.

foutsc on March 4, 2008 at 11:55 am

I bought a house I could afford.

That was dumb.  You should have bought a mansion and then insisted that someone else pay your mortgage. 


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on March 4, 2008 at 11:57 am

Well, they’re bad in that every foreclosure is a case where people “lost a bet” that they could pay a mortgage, to be sure, but just as certainly it would be even worse to solve the problem in the wrong way.

Bike Bubba on March 4, 2008 at 05:05 pm

True that BB. The other thing that concerns me is the trillion dollar market in derivative products which is based on those defaulting mortgages. Somebody is going to be left holding the bag on those bad bets as well and history says its not the guy who laid the bet.

It’s hard for capitalism to work efficiently when moral hazard is removed from consideration IMO.


"The nation has been hypnotized by the swaying and the gesturing of the Watusi and the Frug.”
*J. Helms*

MikeAdamson on March 4, 2008 at 06:26 pm

Of course the underlying value is MOSTLY there so how much real loss is there going to be out there.

Of course maybe the market won’t take that into account and some folks will make a load of money picking up the junk.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on March 4, 2008 at 06:42 pm
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