Google it yourself.

I saw the dissemination of the soldiers with suicide and domestic violence rates in the very article. You just cherry-picked what CBS wrote and I actually looked through the whole article and there are no numbers nationwide per CBS’s sources. The sources themselves find it hard to tell or find out the nationwide numbers.

Ergo, your conclusion is incorrect in facts. I even googled veteran domestic violence and suicide rates in the nation. Nothing.

Both sides profit from cocaine. What is all this shit about connections between Uribe and CHavez? Still no links or information I see.

These are normal questions to ask during research. I asked these questions trying to find these connections as when I searched in Google for Uribe and the laptop, I found that ONE Reuter’s story, about many, many other sources excoriating Bush and Uribe–but upon looking at them they were more of snarky smear pieces than really holding any factual evidence, along with no conclusive evidence of Uribe’s involvement with the drug trade overall–since I could find no neutral information, and Chavez and the laptop involvement popped up in that search. That was a separate issue with Chavez. That raised questions of why and how it would be possible both on the Chavez situation and the Tovar situation.

Some new questions arise: Now, they have Tovar in custody, but where are the mass graves that they speak of? Where is the money trail? Is it confirmed that Tovar acted alone? I also did not see any links to Uribe at all regarding the coke trail other than emails. I have also not seen anything conclusive regarding that allegation at all. You need a money trail and physical trail to confirm your investigation. Apparently there are implications in these emails, but I do not see any further information in this article or any of the other articles I looked at to prove if these mass graves were confirmed by any reliable means.

So are you saying Chavez is a drug lord as well? He very well might be, he has all to profit. I don’t see how he would profit from the drug trade in terms of political capital–as many of my friends that lived in Columbia during those times can attest to. It was a very dangerous time. It might seem simple enough, but why would he risk his position with the US? These questions were left unanswered as I tried to find solid confirmation, but there was none. However, implied in your earlier post, it’s all about Bush.

What’s your real name you coward? I’d love to meet you.
Claude on April 18, 2009 at 07:15 pm

Why? You want to felate him?

Truth be told, I’ve been working on other things this evening but noticed Snarky was condemning Uribe.

I am no specialist in South American affairs, but I have observed Leftards working to cut loose American allies against Soviet and Chi-Com proxies during the Cold War and since.

They have done this consistently: in Cuba, Batista was no good, we ended up with Castro.

Before that, in 1949′s China, Chiang Kai-shek was no good. We ended up with Mao and 850 million instant Communists.

In Vietnam, it was Diem and Thieu, we ended up with Communist control of Laos, South Vietnam and Cambodia and about 2 million slaughtered.

And so it repeated, ad nauseum, in South Africa, South and Central America, the Middle East, wherever some country was fighting for its life, US-based commies were there to make sure US support was cut and victory was handed to them on a platter.

Democrats, Leftist MSM, Working for Marxist Triumphs

Chavez About to Really Screw Himself?

Peaceful, albeit Disgusting Resolution to Columbia Crisis

And yes, we saw ties between that Angel… Chavez, darling of the Left, FARC and it’s war on its neighbor and Nancy Pelosi.

Pelosi Was Sending Messages to FARC Terrorists?

So am I surprised to see a resident Leftard carrying the water for tyranny yet again?

No.

I looked at the source you provided it did not confirm and was under great contention regarding the veracity of the laptop’s data and did a little digging. Apparently the current story is that the slain FARC leader had a laptop apparently in an email wiring Chavez $300 million dollars. That has not been proved either. However, I’m more inclined to believe the people I knew that lived there and had experienced the terror of the FARC and drug violence both personally and through their own jobs.

We don’t all think like you do, homo.

Isn’t it surprising that more and more ZERO sounds like rev Wright?

socialist is different from authoritarian communist.

They are both ultimately authoritarian. Communism is complete government control of all resources outright (spreading the wealth), whereas socialism has control of the major industries. It may appear that socialism enables control of private property, but it advocates social interventionism (government or organization interfering in social affairs) as well as economic redistribution both in theory and it has been enabled in practice. It’s sort of a difference between getting stabbed or being shot.

and yes i spelled his fn name incorectly out of disrespect for this murdering, power hungry hitler wannabe

Actually let’s see here. I said that there doesn’t seem to be anything in the article that confirms ANYTHING that you said about Uribe. It just doesn’t. This was in October 2006. However, the more recent search brings up data about Chavez and the laptop’s link to him.

So if you have no doubt that Chavez supports FARC, then why is Uribe having a hand in this? Did you figure out why? Do you wonder how each of them would benefit from such a transaction? These are valid questions. How would President of Columbia benefit from an alliance with Chavez? How would FARC act as a go-between? Sounds like you didn’t think it through on your end. However, I did read some posts regarding the previous article and you said you don’t trust people. So, why did you even bother to ask me to research and disseminate it? Interesting.

Funny enough, you never gave any data of the amount of veterans that have issues of domestic violence to the ones that don’t. You’ve changed it from a general statement to a specific statement when you were caught in it.

So, provide unbiased data regarding this matter, properly disseminate it, show everyone else your conclusion, before you treat me like one of your Catholic students. Practice what you preach.

Perhaps Obama is trying not to openly associate with leaders who actively shoot the poor and defenseless.

LIKE CHAVEZ?

Chavez is a megalomaniac who has destroyed almost every semblance of press and individual freedom in Venezuela in his quest to become President-for-life. He also has aligned himself with and serves as an agent of Iran and Hezbollah.

H/T to William A. Jacobson

The files include the date and place of 558 murders, most of which have gone uninvestigated.

The victims, named in the files and believed to have ended up in secret mass graves, include merchants who were late in making extortion payments, union members and people suspected of sympathizing with Marxist insurgents.

State terrorism.

And Rob wants to know why Obama didn’t go to Columbia? Heh. Those are Bush’s type of guys. Like the Uzbeks.

Calling Uzbekistan a “friend,” President Bush told reporters on Tuesday that the United States expects leaders there to “honor human rights.”
…
The timeline and accuracy of the Uzbekistan events are still being pieced together as President Islam Karimov, who has ruled since the country’s liberation from the Soviet Union in 1991, continues to shut out most international media access. After initially allowing a few investigators in for unrevealing tours of the aftermath, he has rebuffed further international calls for an independent inquiry.
…
Numerous witnesses on the ground during the crackdown, including demonstrators and local human rights groups, reported to international news services restricted from the areas immediately following the events that the demonstration was largely peaceful…

According to limited news reports from the region, at one point during the protest, armored vehicles rolled up and government troops began firing into the crowd, mowing down demonstrators, many of whom were women and children. Over the next few days, the number of dead rose to more than 500, reported independent sources.

Wow. What a great friend.

Uribe is a brutal asshole and a liar. He supports paramilitary forces who kill poor, rural people all over Columbia. Moreover, this was all well documented when Jorge 40 got busted. Perhaps Obama is trying not to openly associate with leaders who actively shoot the poor and defenseless. We’ll see if he’s being consistent when/if he meets with the Kazaks and the Uzbecks, etc. They are also brutal, peasant-killing devils who Bush loved to have tea with.

ando
a significant amount of the liquidity in both their economies is from the drug trade. they are both drug czars, of a sort, on anyone’s estimation. my point it that URIBE is no better than Chavez, in reality, merely in rhetoric. We find scant verifiable reports, Jorge 40 being an exception that the Columbian govt had to deal with, and lots of slander from questionable partisan sources. Uribe’s fake disarming and his connections to Jorge 40 are not in question. Before the us cut venezeula’s aid money (under bush), they were accounting for 90% of the captured cocaine on s america. i bet obama wont give it back. who wants to waste money combating cocaine? bush cut it for rhetorical reasons when it was some of the most efficiently spent, results wise, money of the so-called drug war.

Of course we all know that, as soon as a few rich guys could take power by kidnapping in Venezuela recently, the US ambassador under bush ran down for a handshake and a picture, as hoardes and hoardes of citizens gathered to demand the reinstatement of the guy with… uh… popular support. I was not aware that ‘democracy’ included reference to term limits? I thought that even power sharing governments could be both ‘democratic’ and quite ‘socialist’ at the same time. Some of you urge that there is a contradiction in terms there. Perhaps we can begin by having you guys spell out why ‘democratic’ and ‘socialist’ are mutually exclusive? Morales? The guy in Nicaragua? Etc?

Please, do explain.

The funny part, for me, is that the popular support these people enjoy is directly related to ‘blowback’ from our exploitative activities in south and central america. see, for example, the Guatemalan coup d’etat of 1954.

The 1954 Guatemalan coup d’état was a covert operation organized by the United States Central Intelligence Agency to overthrow Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán, the democratically-elected President of Guatemala. Arbenz’s government put forth a number of new policies, such as seizing and expropriating unused, unfarmed land that private corporations set aside long ago and giving the land to peasants, that the U.S. intelligence community deemed Communist in nature and, suspecting Soviet influence, fueled a fear of Guatemala becoming what Allen Dulles described as a “Soviet beachhead in the western hemisphere”. Dulles’ concern reverberated within the CIA and the Eisenhower administration, in the context of the anti-Communist fears of the McCarthyist era. Arbenz instigated sweeping land reform acts that antagonized the U.S.-based multinational company United Fruit Company, which had large stakes in the old order of Guatemala and lobbied various levels of U.S. to take action against Arbenz.

that would be the beginning of a series of such activities. on behalf of united fruit company. how apropos. FRUITS.

US policy in that region of the globe has sucked since then.

down with the drug war. thank the GOPPERS for it. i used to get those candy cigarettes when i was a kid — under the lid it read ‘say no to drugs’. pretty ironic, imo.

isit2012
let’s have proof of Chavez mass murdering the poor and defenseless.

we know Bush supports it. look at Uribe and look at the Uzbeks and Tajiks, for example. if you can pull off the equivalence, then you only have an equivalence.

all of the sudden Rob’s disgust at Obama’s lack of a visit with Uribe the murderous asshole is full of peasant-killing irony.

keep working on that equivalence, 2012.