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It is times such as these that we, the United States, need someone with the vision, the language skill and the leadership of a Winston Churchill.  It seems that half of our country’s leadership does not understand that the U.S. has again lived up to our commitment to Freedom for people everywhere. These appeasers have failed to lead--plus they have willfully misled about half our people. The Dem’s will pick a candidate for President out of that bunch?  Chamberlain by another name?

Now isn’t that is a cute story.

What would have happened if bushco had listened to the generals who told him he needed more troops BEFORE he invaded a country that did not attack us.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Imagine how much farther we would be along the path of peace in the ME without the undermining and treachery of the Dems/lefties/MSM?
I call for the Dems to come back to America!

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

What would have happened if bushco had listened to the generals who told him he needed more troops BEFORE he invaded a country that did not attack us.

It is easy for someone to sit on their fat buttocks after the fact and say ‘if only he had done this or that’ things would be different. The problem is, Bush didn’t have that luxury, he had to decide in real time, measuring the best advice and move forward. All the world’s intelligence agencies were claiming Saddam had WMD’s and there was a nuclear component, plus Saddam’s history of mental instability in gassing the Kurds and invading Kuwaiit. Had they all been right, and I believe future information will support virtually every claim, had Bush not moved and American, British and Jewish lives were lost in the Middle East and gas prices jumped to $5.+ a gallon he would have and should have been impeached.

Then it is a matter of hearing from the military and it is hard to justify Bush listening to the minority of generals clamoring for more troops. It was the same thing with Lincoln in the Civil war, bad advice and many missteps. But, like Lincoln Bush was sure that he did the right thing and he waited for his General Grant - Petraeus. In both cases the right general emerged and we are on a solid path to victory.

You are just mad because like most Democrats you were rooting for our defeat in Iraq. Damn, you must be mad today!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Don’t let your chain mail get all in a bunch there Ivanhoe.

Not ALL the worlds intelligence agencies were claiming what you desperately need to believe.

What did Hans Blix say?
What was Scott Ritter saying?
What was Mohamed ElBaradei saying?
What was written in the Downing Street minutes?

And after bushco ordered the invasion/occupation what was not found?

And to my point, what did General Shinseki say?

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Notice how the leftie has changed the subject from the Dems being wrong about cutting and running from Iraq.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Robert108: Have you ever noticed that the Liberals and Democrats look at all facts as ”Inconvenient Truths?”

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

You are just mad because like most Democrats you were rooting for our defeat in Iraq. Damn, you must be mad today!

Listen up Ivanhoe, you can shove that kind of crap right back up your f*ckin ass you piece of sh*t bush swallower. F*uck you for thinking and having the f*cking nerve to write down half the sh*t that dribbles out your pathetic *ss. Half this country, our country, is dem. If for one f*cking minute your little gop brain thinks that we want the U. S. to be defeated anywhere at any time then the W d*ck you suck is poisoning you more than you know. Are there dem soldiers? Are there dem marines? Are there dem’s in the navy? Is your neighbor or you neighbor’s neighbor dem? Are more than half of our governors dems? Is the majority of our elected congress dem? Do you have any doubt as to the overall outcome of the election this year? And yet somehow you pull - dems rooting for our defeat right out of you loose brown *ss.

Wipe yourself Ivanhoe. You are an embarrassment.

Sorry Rob, but someone had to say it.
When I see it, I will respond.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Sorry Rob, but someone had to say it.
When I see it, I will respond.

Res ipsa loquitur.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Hey r-Gumby, have you found an Ace of Spades headline to “borrow” from today yet?

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

RBB: Well, now we know you are all grown-up because you can use the “F” word! Tsk Tsk Tsk! A man that has to resort to such base language to make a point do so because they lack a command of the English language and are unable to engage in debate with anyone over the age of two without cursing every other word.

I hate to yank your immature, cry-baby chain any more, but actually Rob has written many threads accusing the Democrats of rooting for our defeat in Iraq. So, I am not alone by a long shot in not only accusing Democrats (leadership mostly)of rooting for our loss in Iraq, but the leadership of the Democrat Party actually going to foreign lands to give aid and comfort to our enemies. You know, like traitors? They have called our troops Nazi’s, murderers, rapists, terrorists and all sorts of filth and even said “we have lost the war in Iraq,” “Iraq is a quagmire, another Vietnam,” and “Get out of Iraq now!”

Ivanoe was fictional character written by Sir Walter Scott. He was a gallant warrior and knight fighting against evil men and being victorious. So, thank you so much for the wonderful compliment!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

What would have happened if bushco had listened to the generals who told him he needed more troops BEFORE he invaded a country that did not attack us.

Hindsight is 20/20 boob.

Sorry Rob, but someone had to say it.

Hey, don’t apologize to me for making a profane rant that made you look like an ass.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Robert108:

Res ipsa loquitur is a legal term from the Latin meaning literally, “the thing itself speaks” but is more often translated “the thing speaks for itself”. It signifies that further details are unnecessary; the proof of the case is self-evident. The doctrine is applied to tort claims which, as a matter of law, do not have to be explained beyond the point where liability is established. It is most useful to plaintiffs in certain negligence cases.

I just want to know who is the “thing?”

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman: In this case, rbb and his comment.  It speaks for his true nature quite well, I think.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

I just love it when RBB gets all intellectual and stuff. He has an amazing command of the English language rarely heard outside of a Bronx ghetto. His motto must be… When all else fails, get vulgar.”

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

Fact is with the Dems in charge, we would have been overrun by now and paying 90% taxes and in a severe depression and a REAL police state.

(That ought to set em off)

If Lincoln had not been elected, we would not have had a civil war. In less than a hundred years, the country had already drifted away from the ideals of a Constitutional Republic and into the disenfranchising ideals of a democracy. Lincoln guaranteed that the process would continue. The lack of a strong Constitutional leader resulted in the violent oppression of a large portion of the country and the deaths of 700,000 Americans. Lincoln ignored and violated the Constitution and was the cause of the Civil War. It would be much better to be remembered as the man who prevented the Civil War. He just didn’t get it.

This is an election year. Do you think that things will look better in Iraq? We could have ended the war in Iraq years ago. Instead, we have chosen to sustain it and it has worn on the country and our military.

We now have a leader who, like Lincoln, chooses to ignore and violate the Constitution for his own ideals. He doesn’t get it. Bush thinks that he is smarter than the men who framed this country and he is not. He has just been brainwashed by the worldwide elite.

Do you think that the framers wanted the majority of Americans to grasp frantically for air as members of the other party are elected to be the ruling class by money? The idea was to elect public servants who would administer the Constitution and protect the rights it guarantees for everyone, not just the party in power. Why do you live in fear that the other party will be elected?

to the Republic for which it stands

Reality Bob… Many of the Dems. have swallowed the Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, anti war, anti American baloney. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton etc. have been preaching the defeatist sermon.  As Americans we have voted in these politicians who are destroying our country’s image. Those particular politicians wanted to refuse the troops money after they voted to send them to Iraq! If many of us seem to believe the Dems are defeatists certainly you can understand why? I am glad to see you were upset about being called a defeatist. Hopefully you can inject some of your backbone into the rest of the Dem party?

ews48: Do you honestly believe one word of that claptrap you just deposited? I was rather astonished how you dislike Lincoln, probably our most revered President and then I remembered - he was a Republican and that alone is enough to make you lie about him.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Robert108: I have a confession to make, I had to look up Res ipsa loquitur, I had no idea what it meant. But, now I do so thanks for the education.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Why do you live in fear that the other party will be elected?

I don’t “live in fear”, becsuse I have Second Amendment rights, but the reality is that the Dems want nothing less than “the dictatorship of the proletariat”, until every last American is thoroughly brainwashed to believe their Marxist ideology of control over our lives.  They want to dictate to us what we can eat, how we can travel, what vehicles we can drive, and how much of our earnings we get to keep.  They want to take the majority of what we earn and redistribute it to their favored groups.
If you think real Americans want that, you are insane.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Neiman: Thanks; always glad to be of service.
Res ipsa loquitur is a fancy way of saying: “Look who’s talking!”, in ordinary conversation.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

ews48: I’m curious. Exactly what disenfranchisement took place during the first 100 years of the Republic?  And maybe you have forgotten what Lincoln knew: The British, Spanish and French were licking their chops at the prospect of a permanently divided United States. Easy pickings.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pp: The leftie’s mind is made up; don’t confuse it with facts.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Powell June 8, 2003

“In the presentation I gave before the United Nations Security Council, I spent four whole days and nights at the CIA going over all the intelligence in order to make sure that what I presented was going to be solid, credible, representing the views of the United States of America, and I stand behind that presentation,”

Powell: September 9, 2005

“It’s a blot. I’m the one who presented it on behalf of the United States to the world, and [it] will always be a part of my record. It was painful. It’s painful now.”

“There were some people in the intelligence community who knew at that time that some of these sources were not good, and shouldn’t be relied upon, and they didn’t speak up. That devastated me…”

Pre war Matthew Rycroft: July 23, 2002 (Downing Street Minutes)

“There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime’s record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.”

I pity you people, I really do.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

RBB:
(1) The statements by Matthew Rycroft are at a minimum only his wholly subjective opinions; that is, if absent hard, objective documentary evidence that Bush or Cheney were pushing anyone at CIA or the NSDA to fix the facts to support the policy. Of what value is his a subjective opinion?
(2) If Powell went to the CIA and the facts he gave at the U.N. were given to him directly by the CIA, why wouldn’t you think that there was a possibility they were giving Bush wrong facts as well? By the way do you ever consider that if there was any intelligence failure it was because Billy Jeff and his Democratic pals gutted the CIA?
(3) All that stuff that you think is conclusive evidence of Bush forcing the intelligence to fit a policy is shaky when you consider that Prime Minister Blair provided similar evidence to that evidence Bush had; and Blair, a card carrying liberal, was if anything more emphatic that the intelligence was accurate and emanded swift military action. Or, do you think Bush somehow hypnotized Blair and made him suffer terible poll numbers at home so Bush could kill Iraqi’s? Further, I cannot recall any major intelligence agency outside the U.S. yelling and screaming at the time thaT our intelligence was faulty, except some inspectors at the U.N. who were and are enemies of this country. As is almost the entire United Nations.
(4) Revisionist history and self deception on your part in this mater is not attractive. I am guessing you think Bush had the WTC exploded to coincide with the air strikes by Islamic terrorists?

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

I cannot recall any major intelligence agency outside the U.S. yelling and screaming at the time thaT our intelligence was faulty, except some inspectors at the U.N. who were and are enemies of this country.

And they were right.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

(2) If Powell went to the CIA and the facts he gave at the U.N. were given to him directly by the CIA, why wouldn’t you think that there was a possibility they were giving Bush wrong facts as well?
Neiman on January 5, 2008 at 01:57 pm

It was Bush that hung a medal around G. Tenets neck for a job well done,and not Billy Jeff and his Democratic pals.

Bush and Cheney wanted and the CIA delivered.
Remember the “slam dunk” statement?
The CIA delivered political cover and deniability for Bushco and the Neocons.

RBB: Now please read this slow, it will hurt: You have to actually think about what you are saying, if ours and virtually all the world’s intelligence agencies were reporting essentially the same facts; and the U.N. agency, which organization has always been anti-American says something completely different; at that time, not having the luxury of hindsight, you say Bush should believe the one agency that does not like us? Does that scan Marty, at all?

Further, you seem for partisan purposes to believe the case about WMD’s or Saddam’s nuclear pursuits were all lies and the case is closed. But, we have the testimony of Colonel Sada of the Iraqi Air Force that in the months before the invasion and while U.N. officials were in Iraq, Saddam had plane loads of WMD’s into Syria. While not major stockpiles, we have uncovered WMD’s in Iraq. What if Sada was right? He was there! What if later we uncover solid evidence of Saddam sandbagging the U.N. inspections while he was flying the stuff out the back door?

It doesn’t matter when your mind is made up, does it?

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

2) If Powell went to the CIA and the facts he gave at the U.N. were given to him directly by the CIA, why wouldn’t you think that there was a possibility they were giving Bush wrong facts as well? Neiman on January 5, 2008 at 01:57 pm

It was Bush that hung a medal around G. Tenets neck for a job well done,and not Billy Jeff and his Democratic pals.

Does that scan Marty, at all! What in the sam hill does Bush hanging a medal around Tenets neck have to do with anything? What objective, documented evidence do you have that anything Bush or even Cheney personally said or did before, during or after our invasion of Iraq substantiates your claim that they caused anyone at CIA to fudge or tailor make the intelligence data to fit a policy? Not accusations or innuendo, but what solid documentary evidence do you have to support that charge?

If our data was in harmony with virtually the entire world’s intelligence data, wouldn’t the global community, including France and Russia, countries that hate us have to be involved in a giant intelligence conspiracy? Are you suggesting that extreme Left Wing liberal Tony Blair aided and abetted such an intelligence conspiracy? What about most of the elected Democrats in Congress, having direct access to all the same intelligence data and many of whom made even more incendiary statements than Bush, did they also have a part in that conspiracy. Holy Cow next we’ll hear about the Trilateral Commission orchestrating the conspiracy.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

RBB:

What would have happened if bushco had listened to the generals who told him he needed more troops BEFORE he invaded a country that did not attack us.

:And they were right

Stuck clocks are right twice a day too.

I dom’t blog often, so bear with me while I leave behind a comment on all of this.

First, WMD’s in Iraq… Let’s say that they are not in Syria, and he never gassed the Kurds, and he did not have any, even if the trucks found buried in the sand were made for chemical manufacturing for farming in the sand, and the warheads with the removable caps and chambers were made to disperse… Boy, I cant find a reason for that one. Sorry I degress.

This is a few paragraphs from the “Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq”. I pulled a few point that do not mention WMD’s, something the media seems to have forgotten.

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens;

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it “supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1),” that Iraq’s repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and “constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,” and that Congress, “supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688”;

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

*** Just a note, Public Law 105-338 was enacted by Bill Clinton, and in a few words says “remove Saddam from Power at all costs” ***

My point is, that the media has done a great job of making this about one issue, WMD’s. It was not about one issue, as you can clearly see. OK, we were wrong about WMD’s, (because they were moved to Syria,) but on all the other points, we were right. We should be there, we need to be there. Sure, we made a few misscalculations, but that has been fixed.

If your looking for World War 3, pull out of Iraq, (or in hindsight, don’t invade. Same result.). We can all watch Syria invade from the west, Iran from the east, Turkey annex the Kurdish lands, and Pakistan try to stop it all with Nukes. Invading Iraq and leaving occupational forces behind is the only option that keeps the fragile Middle East from falling apart.

Aguing WMD’s? Dumb. Well played by the anti Pres. Bush Media, but just Dumb. Aguing hindsight? Even dumber. Thinking Iraq had no WMD’s? C’mon, that is just a bad joke, right?

Alex