Good question. What was the rush? Nobody on the left is answering that. We just get insults and projection.

That’s telling.

if a decade of republican rule hadn’t destroyed the economy.

Unlike totalitarian Dems, Republicans don’t “rule”. Just another lie from stupid little dinostem.

I hope he flew commercial.

Sorry stems. You can’t crow about your successes at the ballot box all through the 80s, 90s and early 00s, write books about “Conservative Dominance” and “A New Conservative Century”, predict the death of the democrat party, insist that your conservative ideas were wildly successful (until they weren’t!) and then claim to have not dominated for 30 years!

It’s going to be a hard sell.

Truth be told Proof, I didn’t like the fact that the bill was being “rushed”. But if reviewing the bill was going to mean that it would take weeks and months to negotiate changes in it after it was read, well…then i can understand the desire for it to be passed quickly.

I personally would prefer it be reviewed.

Another interesting take on how this was moved along with Republican approval.

It seems Lieberman played a crucial role in talking several Republicans off the ledge, thereby vindicating President Obama’s refusal to be vindictive toward the Connecticut Senator…. Lieberman has always been a moderate-progressive on economic issues so his vote should not be a surprise — but his active lobbying for the bill has to be considered directly attributable to the grace with which Obama treated him. Those who wonder about the President’s efforts to be nice to Republicans — a singularly ungracious lot, cult-like in their devotion to failed economic policies past — should bear this particular example in mind as we go forward.

Hat tip: Joe Klein

I don’t ever remember Obama saying this bill needs to be passed in 24hours.

So why did it have to be passed before any Congress Critters had the chance to even read what they were signing, or having the public read and comment on it if it didn’t have to be done so quickly? What happened to “transparency”?

I like how some fools claim that “conservative ideology” ruled for thirty years.

And yet we can all look and see that the size of government grew by leaps and bounds.

Some obviously don’t have the first inkling as to what conservative ideology is.

More lies 108?

I get it, 108, I get it.

You have no idea what is or what is not a conservative principle.

If you did, I’m sure you would be able to cite a few of them here.

Good luck to you.

Yes PP, it is generally accepted that the past 30 years was known as “the conservative revolution” marking a period where conservative ideology dominated the agenda and public policy. The last 10 years was when the republican Congress and Bush did significant amounts of damage evidenced by the economic crisis we’re mired in.

To the newly-arrived stem trying to blame dems- give it up. That will never work. Don’t make me bludgeon you with proof.

dinothefakehomo is correct! Today is a holiday. So there was no reason to vote on this before Tuesday, then Barri could have signed it right there in the Senate Chambers. Big press event. Why didn’t they do that? Because in the ensuing 72 hours American citizens would have dissected this like a frog. As it is now the entire bill has been bundled up and hidden, no one allowed to see the entirety until AFTER Tuesday.

Why is it so important to stop Americans from actually knowing what is in this?

Bat –

Why is it that Democrats all spout the same blather, the same tedious mantra, like some sort of secular High Mass. From Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi to Joe Klein to slugs like DINO, all using the same phrases, word for word, and none of them demonstrating that they have the faintest idea what they’re talking about.

To introduce new, original ideas into the mix would require original thought – something they clearly are incapable of. They are simply a part of the cult of personality that has taken over our political class and society at large.

not bothering to read his security briefings until 9/12.

Do you ever want anyone to take you seriously dim Demstem? You have got to step away from the Daily Kos Kool-Aid!

First he claimed we’d get 48 hours to read it. He claimed it would be published openly on the Internet for as much as a week. He promised transparency. He promised openness. Nothing of the kind happened. He rammed it through using scare mongering and arrogant self-important whining. He told us unendingly that it had to be passed now now now. He then failed to finish the passage process by signing it, and instead took off for a night on the town with his wife.

Gee… Barack Obama, Democrat, is a liar! Gasp! Who’d a thunk it?!

this dumbass can’t get anything right, now it looks like his crony from chicago (burris) is going down in flames.

They had to take vacation….

it’s hard work lugging all that pork around…….

108

Actually, there is no conservative “ideology”; there are conservative principles.

What are these conservative principles you write of?

Carterstem and Clintonstem, along with the Demstem social engineers caused the present crisis, and Obamastem is trying to make it last into the foreseeable future.

So dd, you can’t name a conservative principle either?

Again, pesty little kid, I’m not schooling you. Besides, you wouldn’t recognize them in any case, since you admit you don’t know what they are.
Pearls before swine.

boob, you’ve been posting and commenting here how long? And you don’t know anything about conservative principles. Amazing. Look at it this way, conservative principles are diameterical opposites to your liberal ones (if you can call them principles).

I believe that you really are too much into yourself to digest anything from others.

Do you have anything to say to dd?

dd: Arguing with rbb is like wrestling with a pig. You’re going to get dirty and the pig might actually enjoy it!

Yes PP, it is generally accepted that the past 30 years was known as “the conservative revolution” marking a period where conservative ideology dominated the agenda and public policy.

Dishonest little dinostem continues to lie. The only “conservative revolution” was when President Reagan rescued us from the debacle of Carter’s incompetence. The reality is that the Demstems had absolute control of the House(where all spending bills originate) from 1954-1994, and we had the coward Clinton enabling terrorism from 1993-2001.
You’re just lying, as usual, dinostem. In fact, it’s the Dems who seek to “rule”, whereas conservatives favor representative govt, and aren’t frightened of a diversity of opinion, unlike you lefties.

Now here’s some guy who really understands conservative principles: I got mine, screw the rest of you.

As long as you don’t drive on our streets or drink clean water or call for police protection or demand the fire department put out your house fire or be thankful that there is an emergency room to take your kids to when they need it or eat food or take drugs that were inspected, go for it gop dude!

I think Ted’s cabin might be available.

Those who wonder about the President’s efforts to be nice to Republicans–a singularly ungracious lot, cult-like in their devotion to failed economic policies past–should bear this particular example in mind as we go forward.

- Joe Klein, liberal hack, representing yet another liberal attempt at what passes for bi-partisanship on the Left. Phooey!

Why is it that Democrats all spout the same blather, the same tedious mantra, like some sort of secular High Mass. From Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi to Joe Klein to slugs like DINO, all using the same phrases, word for word, and none of them demonstrating that they have the faintest idea what they’re talking about.

Nanny Pelosi is on vacation, took a flight to Italy to meet with her Mafioso family members.

My family has gotten all our stuff together & I will not be working anymore to help pay for your social programs!

As long as you don’t avail yourself of the programs, why the fuck do I care?

Still can’t think up a conservative principle, huh 108?

You can’t crow about your successes at the ballot box all through the 80s, 90s and early 00s

Your “straw man” has a couple of Clinton victories in the woodshed that make the rest of your premise as irrational as most of the stuff you spout here.

The republicans did not pass all the bills nor create all the problems with the ecomony. When Barney & Dodd were getting sweetheart deals instead of watching the housing market, they are to blame & I think they are Democrates. The entitlement is another problem. We have 51% on some type of assistance, but they vote Democrat, so it is ok. I wonder if all the Republicans pull out of the great society that is coming, who will pay the bills for all the hanger ons!

So you don’t know any conservative principles?

Obama just lowered the bar for Presidents Day. He is “present”.

NPR reported him going back to DC

NPR? Morning Sedition??? And you scoff at Fox for being biased in their reporting the news!

President Urkel is in no hurry to get this moving because this is a payoff to his people for the last election and the down payment on the next.

Obama is a liar and a hypocrite.

Monday is a holiday you bitter bitches.

And we all know the President isn’t allowed to work on weekends or holidays or evenings or anything. Not even on important, must-pass crap sandwiches like the “stimulus.”

Dino knows full well the neo-neo-cons are not true conservatives, and that the Bush administration caused much consternation and gnashing of teeth by co-opting their social-spending policies at a deficit at various points. Spending they would themselves have done, but at even greater levels, and running higher deficits.

He’s angry with George Bush for creating this mess in his opinion, and the reason for that mess in his view is reckless Republican economic policy, which was 1000 times LESS reckless than the current porkulus bill.

If Dino were a fireman, he’d fight a fire with a flamethrower and curse the arsonist both for doing too much and not enough at the same time as he’s roasting the whole thing to destruction.

Obama was playing jet-setting dickhead by taking off the way he did. First he claimed we’d get 48 hours to read it. He claimed it would be published openly on the Internet for as much as a week. He promised transparency. He promised openness. Nothing of the kind happened. He rammed it through using scare mongering and arrogant self-important whining. He told us unendingly that it had to be passed now now now. He then failed to finish the passage process by signing it, and instead took off for a night on the town with his wife.

He couldn’t even take FIVE MINUTES to whip out a pen and put his John Hancock down. He and his supporters would have a cow if we the taxpayers footing this monstrosity refused to put out signatures down and refused to file our taxes.

End to end this thing has been played as a political power grab.

NPR reported him going back to DC. Maybe he called you with his change of plans.

Maybe he went there before going to Denver. Nice to know Obama’s concerned about his carbon footprint.

But the point is: The bill still isn’t signed. Wont’t be until tomorrow. In Denver.