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Just for grins, try to get the warmers to explain the temperature and climate variations of the North American craton (you know, the oily and coaly Dakotas and Illinois and such) over the last 400 million years using only cow flops and other accoutrements of population and technology.

A competent theory should be able to use historic data to define the present accurately.

From memory, cows are many times worse than pigs and it is because of their digestive system.

But maybe a vegetarian diet would do you good Rob? You’ll be thinner and healthier, and feel better (unless your idea of a vegetarian diet is to eat only celery).

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Well wouldn’t going vegetarian cause more cows not to be slaughtered so there’d be a bigger problem.

Because after all Cows have a right to live too.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

So, by your reasoning, AV:TFR, when we wiped out the bison in North America we did a good thing. I know several vegans, they are skeletal, pasty grey, and appear to have cancer. That is your idea of “healthy” I’ll pass. Gonna fry me a steak for breakfast now. Later.

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Great Mickey you just ruined the movie.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

2Hotel9 said, I know several vegans, they are skeletal, pasty grey, and appear to have cancer.

Vegan or vegetarian? There’s a difference.

In any regard, most vegans and vegetarians don’t know how to eat properly. Done right, one can be healthy on that diet.

I know several vegans, they are skeletal, pasty grey, and appear to have cancer.

2H9: You just have to marinate them longer!

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Yep, Lik, a proper balance of vegetables, grains, and meat/fish is quite healthy. Attempting to live exclusively on just one is unhealthy.

Proof, the meat I took out to thaw last night turned out to be venison marinated with italian dressing and garlic. MMMMMMMM!!! Deer-alicious!

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I’d like to hear some global warming nut explain how we’re going to stop that.

Easy, Rob; the same crowd also wants a reduction in the human population.  Remember “The Population Bomb”?
There is also a group of feminists who want to reduce men to 10% of the population.  Nice.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

2Hotel9 said, Attempting to live exclusively on just one is unhealthy.

I’m not trying to bullshit you or sell the idea. Hell, I’m a practicing omnivore for crying out loud! I’m just saying, there are substitutes. Meat is the ideal way of getting some essential vitamins and minerals, but not the only way.

London broils with mojito and garlic - I eat alot of these because the cuts arent to pricey and if you marinate and cook em right they come out real nice. That’s the cure for global warming. Moooo!

robert108 notes, There is also a group of feminists who want to reduce men to 10% of the population.  Nice.

Depending on the viewpoint and level of bullshit the remaining 10% can put up with, that could either be a blissful dream or an unmitigated nightmare.

There would be less married women, so is that more nagging or less nagging the men would have to put up with? Haha. What a scary proposition.

10%? That means each male would have to breed 10-20 females per year. Genetic stagnation would shortly ensue.

And quite right,Lik. This means that they must consume a great seal of artificially created protiens. Is this not the same crowd that is AGAINST artificially created foodstuffs? And are 100% against genetic modification of plants AND animals for purposes of human dietary consumption?
A bit of a conundrum, don’t y’all think?

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You know, I think one of the reasons for so much flatulence among cattle is not only the digestive system, but rather that we’re feeding them so much on things they’re not designed to eat.  Flatulence is, after all, the failure of the body to properly break down carbohydrates. 

So my hunch is that grass-fed cattle don’t “go boop” as much as corn-fed.

You guys have got some active imaginations, I think somebody here should write a scifi novel.  Seriously!

I’m just trying to figure out how this figures into the global warming debate.  Domestic animals like cows still count as human activity.  It’s not like a cow’s natural habitat is to be crammed in a stall too small to turn around in.  They are there in such high concentration because of us.  If science shows they are causing climate change, we should change the way we grow our food.  Steak isn’t really the healthiest meat to eat anyway, so it could be a double bonus.

Ken, that’s not quite true.  Today, there are an estimated 45 million adult cattle in the United States.  A century ago, there were about the same number of adult bison.  A serious argument can be made that the Great Plains do require ruminants like bison or cattle to be a healthy ecosystem.

And if my hunch about farting cows turns out to be wrong, it’s also an argument that the methane degradation of the earth has been going on for a long time without negative consequences.  Hmmmmm.....

So by this logic we now know what caused the end of the last Ice Age. All those herds of millions of mammoths. mastodons, rhinos, horses, cattle, bison, and various and sundry other hoofed critters must have destroyed the eco-system with their gas passing.

It seems to me that this HAS to be the answer. I quite certain that the numbers of those animals world-wide far surpassed the nnumber of cattle today. They destroyed the planet. If they hadn’t gone around farting we’d still have an Ice Age and there would be no global warming.

Damn them. Damn them all.

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Did the UN avoid mention of the other farming source of greenhouse gasses? It is rice; yep, rice fields are a large global source of methane. Vegetarianism would be a lot duller without some rice to give those meals some substance but like the jet planes used by the global elite to go to and fro their eco-vacations I have the feeling that they would downplay the rice field problems.

Don’t cows have several stomaches? Poor cows! They are getting their farts made fun of. AND being blamed for global warming…

Chuck Asay has a great cartoon on this: Frontier Environmentalists

http://www.townhall.com/funnies/cartoonist/ChuckAsay/2006/12/11

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

robert108 notes, There is also a group of feminists who want to reduce men to 10% of the population.

Heh heh.. Why am I reminded of one of the closing scenes from Doctor Strangelove?

Gents, with regard to the Global Warming, complete with faux Hickey Stick graphs, folks keep forgetting about solar activity.  The sun goes through seasonal changes, such as an 11-year cycle, I believe, related to sun spots.  More importantly, there are times of heightened solar activity.  Even on a good day the sun looks like a seething cauldron, but sometimes these storms result in something known as a CME or Coronal Mass Ejection, sending an enornmous
amount of energy towards Earth. 

Earth normally doesn’t have to worry too much about solar activity, due in large part to a protective magnetic field known as the Van Allen Belts.  The field, it is said, results from the rotation of the Earths core.  In a sense, the Earth might be compared to a simple bar magnet (and compasses track the North-South flux lines of this field). 

The sun too has a magnetic North and South pole.  Since similar magnetic poles repel, as long as both the Sun and the Earth have their poles oriented to repel the energy blown out by a CME, the effects on Earth are not too severe.

But our pole has reversed many times in history and we are overdue for the next reversal.  It usually takes place gradually, showing up as a spotty, messed-up hodge-podge of magnetic anomalies, rather than a clearly-deliniated North and South pole division.

We know that similar magnetic poles repel (good for us, the charged ions from the CME’s stays away from our atmosphere) but what happens when they become OPPOSITE?

Opposites attract. This means the Van Allen Belts will have the effect of sucking in masses of solar energy—cow farts or no—it will result in a bombardment of the Earth’s atmosphere with a tremendous amount of new energy. 

Energy creates heat, savvy?

I’m not saying that CME’s and Pole Reversal are the root cause of the changing of our weather patterns, but having seen all the NASA-TV documentaries, I know the sun packs a wallop and all those CME’s have got to have some sort of effect. 

Oddly enough, Gore-et-al never seem to mention that changes in weather patterns may be part of a naturally-occurring cycle, and they never discuss the CME’s contribution to warming of the atmosphere.

Why would I distrust Gore-internet-inventor-and- Company, aside from the fact he likes to lie a lot?

Who benefits from taxing the developed world with a Schload of UN-taxes, shifting developed-nation bucks to Third World coffers? 

Uh, three guesses and the first two don’t count.

And, in forcing folks out of cars, they are suddenly far less independent, far less mobile, and far easier to control.

Could it be a control thing? I doubt they’d just right out and say ‘we want to control you more’ but would tell you that your car is killing Bambi and Dolphins and Manatees.

I dunno. Maybe its that UN Biosphere thing that Clinton-Gore implemented and the MSM never told all you peons… er… peasants… uh.. citizens about.

The long-term aim of the Convention on Biological Diversity is to convert at least half of the land area to “core wilderness” areas, connected by corridors of wilderness, all of which is off limits to human activity. Wilderness areas are to be surrounded by buffer zones, in which human activity is strictly limited by government, and managed for “conservation objectives.” People are gradually being moved into “sustainable communities,” which are designed to achieve economic and environmental equity.

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Boy Move_zig that was enough for a blog post there.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

I have a solution for some of the problem.... corks for those Hollywood experts.  For both ends.

So unless we all swear off meat tomorrow (because I’m assuming that animals like pigs give off methane gas too) it won’t matter if what we do about this country’s output of greenhouse gases.  The cows and pigs will still be farting.

Not if we stopped breeding them. (At least not as many.)

No, dave, we would have to kill off all domestic animals by this reasoning. Are you ready to do that?

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