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Friday, March 14, 2008


What Obama Said About Wright Before Wright Mattered

From a memoir written by Obama before he knew his reverend would become an issue in his campaign for President:

  The title of Reverend Wright’s sermon that morning was “The Audacity of Hope.” He began with a passage from the Book of Samuel—the story of Hannah, who, barren and taunted by her rivals, had wept and shaken in prayer before her God. The story reminded him, he said, of a sermon a fellow pastor had preached at a conference some years before, in which the pastor described going to a museum and being confronted by a painting title Hope.

  “The painting depicts a harpist,” Reverend Wright explained, “a woman who at first glance appears to be sitting atop a great mountain. Until you take a closer look and see that the woman is bruised and bloodied, dressed in tattered rags, the harp reduced to a single frayed string. Your eye is then drawn down to the scene below, down to the valley below, where everywhere are the ravages of famine, the drumbeat of war, a world groaning under strife and deprivation.

  “It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere…That’s the world! On which hope sits!”

  And so it went, a meditation on a fallen world. While the boys next to me doodled on their church bulletin, Reverend Wright spoke of Sharpsville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and in the State House. As the sermon unfolded, though, the stories of strife became more prosaic, the pain more immediate. The reverend spoke of the hardship that the congregation would face tomorrow, the pain of those far from the mountaintop, worrying about paying the light bill…

Obama is now trying to tell us that the hateful rhetoric his reverend is deploying now isn’t what he heard during his two decades in that reverend’s congregation.  Yet it’s clear from this memoir that the Reverend Wright was saying the same things then as he’s saying now.

Obama’s only trying to distance himself from Wright now because Wright has become politically inconvenient.  Not because Obama actually dislikes anything Wright has to say.

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“I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial.”

It’s gettin’ scardier and scardier!!


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Anna on March 14, 2008 at 05:19 pm
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The reverend spoke of the hardship that the congregation would face tomorrow, the pain of those far from the mountaintop, worrying about paying the light bill…

And…again.  How is any of this racist?  I am still waiting for you to actually make your argument stick.

When native Americans talk about the white man, and how things changed when the white man entered America, speak of the hardships Native Americans faced afterwards, the treaties that were broken, the lives that were lost.  Is that racist or historical?

I think the pastor says some stupid things.  It is stupid to say that white folks greed runs a world in need.  It’s stupid.  But, I don’t think it is racist.

Racism:  Racism has many definitions, the most common and widely accepted being that members of one race consider themselves intrinsically superior to members of other races.

Definitions

While the term racism usually denotes race-based prejudice, violence, discrimination, or oppression, the term can also have varying and hotly contested definitions. Racialism is a related term, sometimes intended to avoid these negative meanings. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another race or races. The Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief. The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: “the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others.

What you need to establish, I think Rob, is that what the pastor is saying is false and not only is it false, but prejudiced.  Then you must prove that the prejudice is not something that is based on historical context but on racial.

You can not do these things.  Can you?  I am looking forward to your argument.

Hannitized on March 14, 2008 at 07:29 pm
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This man perpetuates hate.  Instead of preaching love from the pulpit he teaches black children what awful people white people are.

He blames us for 9/11 the Sunday after…he is out of his mind.

John on March 15, 2008 at 07:43 am

Why are we even having this discussion? Jeremiah Wright is a clergyman, who swore to be yoked to the commandments of his Lord.

The pulpit is no place for this kind of race-baiting and revisionist, anti-American, anti-white history. “Beware false prophets who come to you in my Name.”

After 20 years, a man who says he is qualified to be President of the United States can hardly claim that he didn’t know what was going on in that church, right under his nose.


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pparets on March 15, 2008 at 07:58 am
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It is hard to believe that Obama did not know what was being preached in his own church, and that he was not so offended that he would be moved to change his church membership. Obama continued his member ship with Trinity Church and Jeremiah Wright Jr. for 20 years, in spite of what Wright Jr. was preaching. It is not credible to believe that during that time Obama was never privy to these type of sermons. 

“That birds of a feather, flock together”. I doubt the nation is ready to entrust the leadership of the most powerful country in the world to an associate for 20 years of a pastor who could shout “God damn America” from the pulpit. 

The same can be said for Rev. Moss III, the new pastor of Trinity Church after Rev. Wright retired.  That was him jumping up to slap Rev. Wright on the back during his Clinton bashing sermon while he mimicked Bill Clinton doing Monica Lewinsky “dirty”. 

What about the whole congregation cheering during these sermons?  It is a like minded group of people, not exclusive to Rev. Wright. A group that Obama has been an integral part of.

Obama elected to continue his membership there,  to have his marriage there, to have his children baptized there. And, most of all, why he chose to have Reverend Jeremiah Wright Jr. as his personal mentor. How much of what Reverend Jeremiah Wright Jr. believed really soaked into Obama’s psyche, in spite of what he says or denies? At the very least, Barack Obama should have terminated his membership in Trinity Church and moved to a church that was not racist and was not anti-American and anti-white.

Personally, I think Obama is not presidential, but let the electorate decide.

It will make no difference to the star-gazing liberals who worship at the shrine of Obama, but it very well may have decided some conservative democrats and independent/unaffiliated voters minds.

Independent on March 15, 2008 at 08:21 am
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Why are we even having this discussion? Jeremiah Wright is a clergyman, who swore to be yoked to the commandments of his Lord.

The pulpit is no place for this kind of race-baiting and revisionist, anti-American, anti-white history. “Beware false prophets who come to you in my Name.”

Good point. The conversation is over, the verdict is in: Jeremiah Wright is a bad pastor.

todd on March 15, 2008 at 02:17 pm

Greed?  How about D-LA what’s his name… Jefferson, or the African “king” who ‘spent up’ one half of his country’s GDP on an inauguration?  Greed knows no skin color nor gender nor nationality.  This man and those who followed or were and are members of his church are going along with this racist rhetoric.


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Chief RZ on March 15, 2008 at 02:23 pm
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The conversation is over

Wishful thinking is not an action plan. How do you repair the damage that the race-baiting pastor of one of the two Democratic frontrunners has done? That most certainly isn’t over!


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Proof on March 15, 2008 at 03:16 pm
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From Dreams of My Father, ” I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”. Barack Hussein Obama

From ‘Dreams of my Father’, “The emotion between the races could never be pure, even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or salvation, the other race (WHITE) would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart.” Barack Hussein Obama

From Dreams Of My Father: “That hate hadn’t gone away,” he wrote, BLAMING “WHITE PEOPLE � some CRUEL, some IGNORANT, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.” Barack Hussein Obama

From ‘Dreams Of My Father’, “There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs,” he wrote. “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,to show your LOYALTY TO THE BLACK MASSES, TO STRIKE OUT and name names” Barack Hussein Obama

“What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice,” Obama said. “He’s much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I’m not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that’s involved in national politics.

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Thanks, Kate! Illustrative of everything Barry O is trying to run from today!


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Proof on March 16, 2008 at 09:55 am
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“Rev” Wright practised a kind of “Hoodoo” and definitely NOT Christianity.

You people in American have to wakeup before its too late if you continue to believe his “FOLLOWERS” or “YES WE CAN” or “BLAH…..!!!!! EH?????

As a global being , I’m so amused by all these STUPIDITY AT ITS HIGHEST.

I rather be with the devil i know ......

Good luck to you all !!!!!

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TYP on March 16, 2008 at 09:59 pm
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Jeremiah Wright, a United Church of Christ pastor in Chicago, told the RCRC audience how he once had been “homophobic” but now accepts that God has created a certain number of animals in each species to be attracted to the same sex. He now asks parents to accept their children’s homosexuality and to avoid the example of Saul in the Bible, who Wright believes opposed Jonathan because of a homosexual relationship with David. “Fag hags [meaning women who support homosexual causes] need to rise up and put Homo-bashers in their place,” Wright concluded.

http://www.layman.org/layman/news/news-around-church/ecumenical-coalition.htm

Imagine that?  That hate-monger Wright showing all of that bigotry to gays….oh…wait.  That was Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell who go about hate-mongering against homosexuals.

Bigotry has no place in Christianity today.  Too bad all of those Christians and Republicans that support Robertson and Falwell are hate-mongering bigots.

Hannitized on March 16, 2008 at 10:24 pm
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Why are these white people sitting through this sermon cheeering Wright?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbUBTlmAiA&feature=related

And why does he say “Jesus taught me how to love the hell out of my enemies”?

Why does he say “and not be reduced to their level of hatred, bigotry and small mindedness”?

Why say “Hillary aint never had her own people say she wasn’t white enough”?

Why?  Because he is NOT racist.  Period.

None of you cowards can take his words and explain why they are racist.  You just say they are because you wan’t to believe they are.

Hannitized on March 16, 2008 at 10:34 pm
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Why didn’t Obama heal his church of the racial hatred expressed by the congregation on those videos, since he thinks he has the answers to “heal” what he perceives to be “race problem” in the US?

I wonder if the Trinity parishioners would be as open to change by Obama as his followers are.

IndependentVoter on March 19, 2008 at 12:22 pm
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