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Jeremiah White “schools” Sean Hannity on why they are not a Black separatist church.

Plug your ears Rob, you don’t want to know this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNTGRL0OJWQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNTGRL0OJWQ

Obama:  I would be puzzled that conservatives would object or quibble with a bulk of a document, that espouses profoundly conservative values of self reliance and self help.

And you guys call them Poverty pimps?

Again, who are the liars?

Black supremacy

COLMES: I want the public to understand where your church is coming from, because you’re being accused of being a black-separatist church, and thus Obama is being accused by default of being a black separatist. Could you straighten that out for us, please?

WRIGHT: OK. The African-centered point of view does not assume superiority, nor does it assume separatism. It assumes Africans speaking for themselves as subjects in history, not objects in history. It comes from the principles of Kawaida, the second principle being Kujichagulia, which is self-determination—us naming ourselves—and not saying we are superior to anybody. We have no hierarchical arrangement. When you say an African-centered way of thinking—African-centered philosophy, African-centered theology—you’re talking about one center. We’re talking about something that’s different, and different does not mean deficient --

WRIGHT:—nor does it mean superior or inferior. The whole notion of hierarchical, one’s superior, “let’s be separate because we’re better,” that’s nothing—has absolutely nothing to do with

*burp*

Pay no attention Rob, this can get in the way of your propaganda and agenda to tear down your political opponent dishonestly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNTGRL0OJWQ

Obama:  I would be puzzled that conservatives would object or quibble with a bulk of a document, that espouses profoundly conservative values of self reliance and self help.

And you guys call them Poverty pimps?

Again, who are the liars?

On Black supremacy

COLMES: I want the public to understand where your church is coming from, because you’re being accused of being a black-separatist church, and thus Obama is being accused by default of being a black separatist. Could you straighten that out for us, please?

WRIGHT: OK. The African-centered point of view does not assume superiority, nor does it assume separatism. It assumes Africans speaking for themselves as subjects in history, not objects in history. It comes from the principles of Kawaida, the second principle being Kujichagulia, which is self-determination—us naming ourselves—and not saying we are superior to anybody. We have no hierarchical arrangement. When you say an African-centered way of thinking—African-centered philosophy, African-centered theology—you’re talking about one center. We’re talking about something that’s different, and different does not mean deficient --

WRIGHT:—nor does it mean superior or inferior. The whole notion of hierarchical, one’s superior, “let’s be separate because we’re better,” that’s nothing—has absolutely nothing to do with

What does this have to do with Hannity..?  This is about MLK and his teachings.

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Pay no attention Rob, this can get in the way of your propaganda and agenda to tear down your political opponent dishonestly.

From the official website (http://www.tucc.org/about.htm):

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian… Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

6. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
7. A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
8. A congregation committed to RESTORATION.

They see themselves apart. Not as a part of America, but as a seperate entity, not equal, who need to be liberated. While it may not be a supremecist movement, it is indeed a seperationist movement. No people who consider themselves “Diasporia” are anything but seperationists.

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

More proof of Seperatism…

The books they advocate:

Down, Up, and Over Slave Religion and Black Theology

In the first half of the book, Hopkins examines how Protestantism and the Bible were used by Blacks and Whites for opposite purposes. For Whites the Bible was used as a way of validating their enslavement of Blacks and their racial inferiority…

The blatant dishonesty here is amazing. Slaveowners (some of which were black) used the bible to justify...and were shot down by white abolishionists who used the Bible to argue against slavery.

The Black Theology Of Liberation
Described Here as:
http://www.wfu.edu/~matthetl/perspectives/twentyseven.html

Liberation theology as it has expressed itself in the African-American community seeks to find a way to make the gospel relevant to black people who must struggle daily under the burden of white oppression. The question that confronts these black theologians is not one that is easily answered. “What if anything does the Christian gospel have to say to powerless black men,” to use James Cone’s words, whose existence is “threatened on a daily basis by the insidious tentacles of white power?”

There’s also blatantly false, terribly chosen, or heretical tomes advised:
Feminist Theologies: legacy and prospect
The Black Christ
W.E.B. DuBois, American Prophet
Defending the Black Faith
Heart and Head: Black Theology Past, Present and Future
Jesus and the Disinherited
Moving From Shame to Self-Worth
Long Walk To Freedom
Communion, the Female Search for Love

The mission statement includes:
Trinity United Church of Christ has been called by God to be a congregation that is not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ and that does not apologize for its African roots! (Even though no one’s asked them to.) ... The fortunate who are among us combine forces with the less fortunate to become agents of change for God who is not pleased with America’s economic mal-distribution! (A little communism goes a long way.) W.E.B. DuBois indicated that the problem in the 20th century was going to be the problem of the color line. He was absolutely correct. Our job as servants of God is to address that problem and eradicate it in the name of Him who came for the whole world by calling all men, women, boys and girls to Christ.

Anyone who has been to their website and sees them as anything other than an insanely liberal, black seperatist church, is deluding themselves.

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

Furthermore, the new pastor is defending the old one:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/us/politics/17wright.html

Mr. Moss invoked the 40th anniversary of the death of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., saying Mr. Wright’s character was being “assassinated in the public sphere because he has preached a social gospel on behalf of oppressed women, children and men in America and around the globe.”
...
Mr. Moss added that the questioning of Mr. Wright added up to “an attack on the legacy of the African American Church which led and continues to lead the fight for human rights in America and around the world.”

Oooooh, classy. Anyone who dislike’s his anti-Semetic and anti-American remarks is just a filthy racist.

Man we had THAT church all wrong. Eye roll.

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

Or just follow Roberts link on the reader blogs:

http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/obama_12_years_ago/

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

Ignore Hannitized, for he speaks dribble.

There is no such thing as “African-centered” philosophy, theology, or anything else. To think so is to make the stunningly ignorant assumption that Africa has a population more homogeneous than Iceland. Of course some of us, actually having been there, know better. Hannitized, with a copy of “Roots”, an autographed picture of Johnny Weismuller, and a 1957 National Geographic to by, obviously does not.

Interestingly enough, “Kawaida”, and “Kujichagulia” are Swahili terms. Of course Swahili is west African, and as such the terms would be totally unkown by Africans in the east - from whence the bulk of Americans descended.

However, one should never let facts stand in the way of “liberal” myths.

Loose lips sinks ship, unfortunately i’ts usually your own

They see themselves apart. Not as a part of America, but as a seperate entity, not equal, who need to be liberated. While it may not be a supremecist movement, it is indeed a seperationist movement. No people who consider themselves “Diasporia” are anything but seperationists.

Really, does every Jew in the US want to separate? They are the quintessential diaspora.

And don’t try to bring up zionism, most Jews don’t even subscribe to it, and even most in Israel don’t.

I really love going through all the blogs on the internet, you see what garbage people subscribe to. Whenever someone says something that offends their fragile American ego, they’re painted in the light as Anti-Americans, or they’re black supremacists or separatists.

It would be quite amusing if it were not so disturbing at the same time.

You key in on the few red-alarm phrases ("God damn America") and off you go, already deciding that this man, this former marine who served his country while so called patriots in Washington tried just as hard to get out fighting any wars, hates America, is a bigot, and an advocate for black separatism.
Dissent against perceived injustices is the purest form of patriotism, not blind love for your country.

Here’s what he said about Vietnam:

The only change came from America as we increased our troop commitments in support of governments which were singularly corrupt, inept, and without popular support. All the while the people read our leaflets and received the regular promises of peace and democracy and land reform. Now they languish under our bombs and consider us, not their fellow Vietnamese, the real enemy. They move sadly and apathetically as we herd them off the land of their fathers into concentration camps where minimal social needs are rarely met. They know they must move on or be destroyed by our bombs.

So they go, primarily women and children and the aged. They watch as we poison their water, as we kill a million acres of their crops. They must weep as the bulldozers roar through their areas preparing to destroy the precious trees. They wander into the hospitals with at least twenty casualties from American firepower for one Vietcong-inflicted injury. So far we may have killed a million of them, mostly children. They wander into the towns and see thousands of the children, homeless, without clothes, running in packs on the streets like animals. They see the children degraded by our soldiers as they beg for food. They see the children selling their sisters to our soldiers, soliciting for their mothers.

---> Whoops that was Dr. King. My bad.

I really love going through all the blogs on the internet, you see what garbage people subscribe to.

Borring: We didn’t subscribe. You can stop delivery!

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

I have taken the time to read many of Martin Luther King, Jr’s books, sermons and speeches. I highly recommend that you read “A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr.” As one blogger has so aptly mentioned in the following post http://dymaxionq.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/martin-luther-king-jr-and-jeremiah-wright-clergymen-speaking-truth-to-power/ Rev. King took a very staunch position against tyranny, imperialism and war mongering--the kind that has always defined U.S. foreign policy.

What did Martin King think about people like Jeremiah Wright? He may have aggreed with him. One thing we know for sure is Martin King was more critical of the U.S. than Jeremiah Wright. Check out his sermon against the Vietnam War http://www.stanford.edu/group/King/publications/speeches/Beyond_Vietnam.pdf

I was quite perplexed that many of us (Anglo Americans)and the press took such great offence to Jeremiah Wright when John McCain’s own pastor buddies Rev. John Hagee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qNi7tPanUA, Rod Parsley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXZbIGJrDkg and Jerry Faldwell and Pat Robertson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CAcdta_8I have uttered some very, very, ignorant comments. Notice that Faux (Fox) news has not been running these soundbites continuously.

Lastly, take the time to read or listen to Rev. Martin Luther King’s sermon/speech on the Vietnam war. This speech was so powerful and critical that some have speculated it led to his demise. At this time their were more Caucasian college youth that were protesting the Vietnam war and actually listening to King. It was probably okay when he (King) focused on African American issues but now he is talking about U.S. imperialism and war mongering for capitalistic gain.

Another good primer that might give most people better insight into American history is Addicted to War http://www.addictedtowar.com and the DVD “What I’ve Learned About U.S. Foreign Policy” http://www.addictedtowar.com/dorrel.html

U.S. imperialism and war mongering for capitalistic gain.

How many countries has the Imperial U.S. conquered and annexed into the empire in the last century? Last decade? Last year?That many!

Addicted to War

Yep! We can’t quit. Except when we do!

tyranny, imperialism and war mongering--the kind that has always defined U.S. foreign policy.

Are your eyes brown? Because you are just full of it!
Have you ever even visited reality? Maybe on a day pass? Sheesh!

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan