Say Anything Blog

You might want to read a bit of history concerning the Republic of Hawai’i and just how it came to be. Hawaii did not willingly join the American Union. Queen Liluokalani deferred fighting against American armed forces on the island to avoid bloodshed, but did not surrender sovereignty.

Several treaties of annexation failed to pass by the required 2/3 majority. A joint resolution of Congress was later used to add a veneer of legality to what is certainly an improper annexation.

I am not a supporter of the so-called “Akaka Bill”.

It be noted that Congresswoman Hirono’s own surname is not native Hawaiian… but Japanese instead.

In addition, she makes a fundamental error common among Democrats, with her ironic misuse of the word “righteousness.”

“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

I would think that the Hawaiian Natives might instead want to thank us for not turning them over to Japan to be treated the way the Japanese treated China, Korea, and the Phillipines in WWII.

How quickly we change from defenders of freedom and liberators into oppressors, racists, and war mongers.

I think Hawaii could have done worse than to be annexed.

Okay, lets assume this wasn’t a legal annexation (which is seriously disputed by Hawaiian scholars).  Now what?  How far back do we go?

Give Mexico back it’s territory, eliminate Israel, restore the articles of confederation (yes there is a bunch of people out there who believe our constitution was not legally ratified and thus the AofC should still be the law of the land), better yet move all Europeans back to Europe, Australian’s felon descendants back to England…just where do we stop with this denial of history and current reality.

Look, throughout all of man’s history (at least up till the founding of the UN) men conquered other men, nations conquered other nations, took their things, and wars ended when one side was defeated and gave up their claims to these things. 

What should we do now over 100 years later?  Hawaii is a state, and quite a successful one at that. 

Following the atrocities of WWII We entered an unprecedented period in history.  It is not the historical norm when the owner of a painting, legally purchased decades ago, can no longer sell that painting because it may have been stolen during war.
You know, eventually time passes and you either accept the reality of the world and make yourself successful or you wallow in your enduring victim-ism.  When you are a third generation refugee that label doesn’t really fit any longer and you should really consider that you are actually a resident of the state where you live. 
DKK

Let me add the answer to my own question:

We only go back as far as is advantageous to those making the demands and no further.

And if that is the case then why not stop now rather then impose our 21st century morality on the 19th century.
DKK

LifeTrek - You know, eventually time passes and you either accept the reality of the world and make yourself successful or you wallow in your enduring victim-ism.

That’s an excellent message to all “Indians”.

The Balkanization of the US continues apace!

Shrugging off the mindless, baseless attacks of Liberal hyenas and jackals since 2007

”(Proof) You’re, as we say in Hawaii, No Ka Oi!”

-unsolicited testimonial

LifeTrek:

Treaties of annexation require a 2/3rds majority vote under the Constitution of these United States of America. Period. There is no special addendum to the Constitution allowing simple majority votes for territories to be annexed via a joint resolution.

Had the Hawaiian Islands not come under the “protection” of the USA, they would most likely have been annexed by some other European power and may well have fared far worse under a monarchical regime.

That being said, the annexation was not done in a manner permitted by the Constitution.

Does that mean that we have to give the Dakotas back to the Souix?  If you non-Indian Dakotans find yourselves without a home, you are always welcomed here in Texas.  Texans solved the former residents problem by wiping out all the Indians that lived here and we became a soveriegn nation by beating the Mexicans.

One of the most important talents for success in politics is the ability to make utter nonsense sound not only plausible but inspiring. Barack Obama has that talent. We will be lucky if we escape the catastrophes into which other countries have been led by leaders with that same charismatic talent.
-Thomas Sowell

Texans solved the former residents problem by wiping out all the Indians that lived here and we became a soveriegn nation by beating the Mexicans.

“Solved”?

*looks out at that wide open border and the throngs of “Reconquista” people crossing*

*looks out at that wide open border and the throngs of “Reconquista” people crossing

Come on lik, leaky borders are in every state which has a water or foreign country border.  Besides many of the illegals end up in other states, perhaps even where you live.  Anyway my point is no endigenous group has a legal claim on Texas.

One of the most important talents for success in politics is the ability to make utter nonsense sound not only plausible but inspiring. Barack Obama has that talent. We will be lucky if we escape the catastrophes into which other countries have been led by leaders with that same charismatic talent.
-Thomas Sowell

Come on lik, leaky borders are in every state which has a water or foreign country border.

The whole point is that it isn’t solved. Then again, you did say, “former residents”. These new people pouring over the border were never former residents.

Besides many of the illegals end up in other states, perhaps even where you live.

Last year in a city just down the road, there was an illegals’ boarding house that got up to 30 Mexicans a month who then dispersed throughout my area. We’re absolutely SWIMMING in Mexican invaders up here near Cleveland. I can’t miss the signs (they’re in Spanish).

Anyway my point is no endigenous group has a legal claim on Texas.

I was being pedantic. Sorry. (BTW, it’s indigenous. )

how bass ackward! we dont need any mote so called soveriegn nations with the u.s.!iam part indian, and even i think the time has come to abolish the reservation system. the idea that indian tribes are nations is a rather dubious one at best. one i contend that prior to the arrival of europeans , indians had no such concept. this is america, get over it.if they want to be oh-so soveriegn then they need to give back all the money they get from uncle sam. let them print their own money and go into town and TRY to spend it.

According any status beyond that of citizen and not citizen is unconstitutional.  Even the indian tribes need to be subject to the laws of the state in which they live.

Those tribes had no idea of nationality when the europeans arrived.  They where a stone age culture, struggling to hold on to their land in the face of their enemies (other tribes) and attempted to use the europeans to their advantage.  Do I agree with what happened to them, no.  But at the same time nobody alive today had anything to do with it.  They get no special status from me despite the “historic wrongs.”  Now if I could only convince Uncle Sam to join me.

exactly! indians today are owed nothing.