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Sunday, January 07, 2007

Well We Didn’t Need Those Embryonic Stem Cells Anyway

A Scientific Breakthrough:

The amniotic stem cells grew readily into independent cell lines, or colonies, doubling in just 36 hours, the paper says. It was published in Sunday’s edition of the journal Nature Biotechnology.

The researchers at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, N.C., were able to get the amniotic cells to differentiate into fat, bone, muscle, blood, nerve and liver cells.

One advantage is that these cells, unlike embryonic stem cells, don’t form tumors when implanted into mice.

But even more important, because amniotic fluid is so easy to harvest, it would make it possible to create thousands of cell lines.

“If you banked 100,000 specimens, you’d be able to provide cells for 99% of the U.S. population with a perfect match for genetic transplantation,” Atala says.

Unlike embryonic stem cells and like adult stem cells these cells may have some potential to help people.  With all of the money spent there’s been very little progress with ESC.  Adult stem cells have been helping real people with real problems.

My problem with the stem cell debate is that rather than being an investment in our future health it’s a boondoggle for biologists that want money without having to produce anything. 

Comments

I read some research studies on stem cell research awhile back. It suggested that embryonic $tem cells were really not necessary.  It also suggested that embronic research gave false hopes to desperate individuals and had no foundation other than the desire to recieve federal funding. It is sad that many of us have family members that are brain damaged, and OR are terminally ill. BUT adult stem cells are supposedly just as effective if not more so than embryonic. $adly embryonic $tem cell research I$ more about the money than the actual di$ea$e.

Zsa Zsa on January 7, 2007 at 07:43 pm

Adult stem cells are helping people today.

embryonic stem cells have not shown much promise at all.  (They keep turning into cancer as it turns out.)

Maybe someday they’ll figure that out.  I’m not willing to fund it for 50 years to give some scientists a job where they don’t have to produce anything.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on January 7, 2007 at 08:21 pm

Yep Zsa,

Just wait and see how long it takes the [dead babies at any cost] lobby to start refuting this report, and explaining to us yet again how stupid we are for thinking that medical progress can be made without killing human beings at any stage of life.

And how stupid I am, for saying something like “human beings at any stage of life” while they bicker and ague over the meaning of “human”, and “life”.

I’ll give em til tuesday.


[Feet make good soup!]

Marty on January 7, 2007 at 08:23 pm

My issue has all along been Federal funding. Why must the USG pay for medical research that the R&D establishment keeps telling them is unproductive? And why is Federal funding withheld from the feilds that are showing results? And again, why is the Federal Government funding ANY research? The Dems screech endlessly that the medical/pharmecutical industries are vastly wealthy. Why, exactly, are the Dems insisting that the USG pay for their R&D?

I am not a doctor, or a politician, just a thinker. And I think this is a big, steaming pile of crap.


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2Hotel9 on January 8, 2007 at 05:34 am
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Nice find The Whistler. Good to know that me being appalled by ESC research is justified on scientific grounds too.

And again, why is the Federal Government funding ANY research?--2Hotel9

You mean like stealh fighters and bombers? I agree they are a waste of money. To detect `stealth’ fighters, all you need is some seperation between the radar transmitter and reciever. Suddenly very easy to spot `stealth’ aircraft.

Anarchist Vegetarian on January 8, 2007 at 05:46 am

FR, you have obviously never tried to shoot down an aircraft. Like so much else in your metrosexual, 20odd life.


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2Hotel9 on January 8, 2007 at 08:16 am

Guys...It is interesting to see how medical research plays upon desperate individuals. Unfortunately most all of us at one time or another are faced with, or are going to be faced with illness. BUT what really is inevitable can’t be changed no matter what. We all are going to die. What I think is sad is the drug companies and research teams that rely on funding from the government. They play with the emotions of families AND act as if embryonic stem cell research IS the answer to their prayers. Adult stem cell research supposedly is just as effective if not more so than embryonic. AND it doesn’t have the contravertial termoil that many of us don’t desire to be apart of…

Zsa Zsa on January 8, 2007 at 02:00 pm

It is just unnecessary to destroy embryos; all the benefits can be had from amniotic stem cells, cord blood stem cells, and adult stem cells.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on January 8, 2007 at 02:18 pm

Robert108...The researchers don’t want people to know that. Celebs such as Chris Reeves and Michael J Fox are being played like a fiddle. It is all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Zsa Zsa on January 8, 2007 at 02:25 pm

Oh, and FR, I 100% agree. Federal Government should not be funding weapons/armor/electronic R&D.


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2Hotel9 on January 8, 2007 at 05:10 pm
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