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We Should Ban Trucks

Ever wonder if it’s the criminal or the weapon?

TOKYO - A man plowed into shoppers with a truck Sunday and then stabbed 17 people within minutes, killing at least seven of them in a grisly attack that shocked a country known for its low crime rate.

The violence began when the man crashed a rented, two-ton truck into pedestrians. He then jumped out and began stabbing the people he had knocked down with the truck before turning on horrified onlookers, police said.

Police confirmed seven deaths — six men and one woman — but they could not say whether the victims had died of injuries from the truck or were stabbed to death.

My point?  Well international mass murders often make big news that last for weeks.  Take the Dunblane massacre in Scotland.  That was big news in this country.  Or how about the Tasmanian Port Arthur Massacre, not a Bugs Bunny Commercial.  That was big news too.

We also have had massacre’s here that haven’t made the big time news.  I remember in the early 90’s when some twit drove his car into a California daycare playground and killed several kids.  That wasn’t big news either. 

It seems that the only time that that these things are news is when there’s an agenda to advance.  The Dunblane Massacre led to residents of the United Kingdom all but losing their right to use a firearm for self defense.  The Tasmanian led to a massive confiscation of personal weapons in Australia. 

Mass shootings in the US used to get a lot more play because the leftists were trying to use these tragedies to advance their agenda’s.  Can you imagine the consternation of the left that now the argument trends to more letting responsible adults carry guns to deter these nutcases? 

Here’s just one other example that the press is out to control what we think.  They’ll use tragedies, but if it’s something that doesn’t match their agenda they don’t give it the full treatment.  That goes for when it’s a shooting, but the press doesn’t want us to find out that it was a muslim that attacked the Jewish Center in the Northeast. 

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We Should Ban Trucks

Isn’t that one of the planks on Barry O’s platform?
Every citizen would be issued a red wagon.

Kevin on June 8, 2008 at 08:14 pm

Is there a Little Red Book in the Little Red Wagon?


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on June 8, 2008 at 08:16 pm
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The Dunblane Massacre led to residents of the United Kingdom all but losing their right to use a firearm for self defense.  The Tasmanian led to a massive confiscation of personal weapons in Australia.

Wait, you mean people actually use information to make decisions?  Astonishing!

Here’s just one other example that the press is out to control what we think.

Yes, an obvious conclusion to jump to.  /sarcasm

In the immortal words of The Kinks..."Paranoia, self-destroya”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbAZVw3_7A

Perhaps Whistler, the article was about how people need more in their lives, perhaps God?

But, you go ahead and run with your crazy train.  It sure is interesting as hell to watch this train wreck.

Hannitized on June 8, 2008 at 08:23 pm

Please stop suggesting things.  :(


Congress is the only whorehouse in history to consistently lose money!

gilbyguy on June 8, 2008 at 09:01 pm
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Wait, you mean people actually use information to make decisions?  Astonishing!

Not exactly, a small number of people, acting on their biases rather than information, exploited a tragedy to infringe on rights of a much larger group of people. That is something I wouldn’t call astonishing, rather I would call it appalling!

Fatalerror94 on June 8, 2008 at 11:14 pm

It’s too bad that nobody had a gun or a even a sword to stop the guy before he stabbed his seventeenth victim.

Hey Japan - CHINA WANTS YOU DEAD

Have fun fighting millions of Chinese with your puny knives.

The Chinese will one day get their blood. The only thing standing in their way right now is the United States buffer. Such a balance of power is never guaranteed to last. The Japanese people themselves are defenseless.

Wholesale slaughter, no resistance.

likwidshoe on June 8, 2008 at 11:18 pm

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[Researcher John Lott] has an interesting chart on studies of right to carry and its effects. Basically, 15 studies conclude right to carry reduces violent crime. 10 studies conclude it had no discernable effect. Zero studies conclude it increased violence.

and

all the published academic studies by criminologists and economists find that neither the initial (assault weapon) ban in 1994 nor its sun-setting in 2004 changed rates of murder or other violent crimes. Similarly, there is no evidence that state bans have mattered.
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Yet it always seems easier for politicians to blame the lack of gun control rather than focusing on their own responsibilities. When Washington and Chicago experienced explosions in murder and violent crime after banning handguns, leaders there did not blame their bans, but rather they blamed the rest of the country that had not also adopted stricter regulations.

Firearm Ownership vs. Murder Rate

Alexander Cockburn Has a Posse

and

But what about Britain’s handgun ban? Surely that would have reduced gun violence? Not so. Just from March 1999 to March 2000, there was a 33 percent rise in handgun crime in Britain

Lott’s responses
GUN CONTROL IN AUSTRALIA


...for great justice

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Move_Zig on June 9, 2008 at 12:37 am
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Not exactly, a small number of people, acting on their biases rather than information, exploited a tragedy to infringe on rights of a much larger group of people.

You mean like 9/11, the Bush administration and Saddam Husseins Iraq??  I see what you mean.

In this case, however, we don’t have any evidence that ties together the set of circumstances you describe.  We are left with mere paranoia and loose connections.

Bush and Iraq, well.....that’s a horse of a different color isn’t it?

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Move_Zig: You can see the troll is impervious to facts, reason and logic. You see even it’s last runny meconium drippings are a vain attempt to hijack the thread to talk about something, anything other than the subject being discussed. Pathetic!



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Proof on June 9, 2008 at 04:51 am

Fatalerror94.  You are correct.  That is the main MO of liberals, socialists and communists.  They use emotion and lies to make massive changes, painting with their broad brush.  Move_Zig:  Maybe some here will be able to read graphs.  They are so good at posting emotional pictures.  Facts and Truth are too difficult for some to comprehend.

Now, on topic, with a little sarcasm//we should also ban plastic knives (oops, they are already banned in schools and on airplanes), cars, and p-nuts//


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Chief RZ on June 9, 2008 at 05:12 am

Gents,

Absolutely.  Leftards have been mentally conditioned to accept the slogans of their cadre and make it their own parroted talking points, while at the same time, rejecting all data which might disturb that worldview.

Being believers in the big State, their thoughts are to: a) destroy the existing state; b) become the new State; and c) transfer all power to the State.

Gun Control = People Control.

It works towards that end.  But to reach disarmament in a free society requires lying and misdirection.  Lies, such as that spouted by Kellerman, which holds in effect that the mere presence in a firearm in a household makes you 43 times more likely to get shot by it.  If that were true, far more of the 80 million or so gunowners who own approximately 270 million firearms in the United States would be getting shot every day. 

The reality is that the Left lies routinely when it comes to the issue of guns (and just about every other topic for that matter)

When you think about it, gun control makes no sense.

How can you ever be made more safe by being made defenseless?

A state where only the military and police own the guns is a Police State.


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Move_Zig on June 9, 2008 at 07:40 am
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You can see the troll is impervious to facts, reason and logic.

There was ZERO fact, ZERO reason and absolutely NO logic employed in this post and it’s conclusion.

There is NO evidence that suggests causation. 

On the other hand, we know 9/11 caused the Bush administration to invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.  That is almost exactly what Fascist Hilter did.  But you don’t see me making the same accusation you are making, do ya Chief?

You see even it’s last runny meconium drippings are a vain attempt to hijack the thread to talk about something, anything other than the subject being discussed.

Or, for the sake of pointing out hypocrisy and/or projection.

You see what you recognize, because it is all too familiar to you.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 08:51 am
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Absolutely.  Leftards have been mentally conditioned to accept the slogans of their cadre and make it their own parroted talking points, while at the same time, rejecting all data which might disturb that worldview.

Idiot.

Do you seriously think that you guys don’t do the same thing?  Yes or no?

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 08:53 am

There was ZERO fact, ZERO reason and absolutely NO logic employed in this post and it’s conclusion.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.

H once again has no point and is just flapping his gums.

So H are you pretending to be a lawyer, a computer guy or a train driver today.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on June 9, 2008 at 08:55 am
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Can somebody point me to the legislature that is being introduced that suggests they should band trucks?

Anyone.

Anyone.

Bhuller?

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

Why is this article not being taken as a way to suggest people need more in their lives, such as the word of God????

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 08:55 am

H misses the point altogether, which is nothing new for him.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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Idiot troll laugh fest in 3...2...1:

Can somebody point me to the legislature (sic) that is being introduced that suggests they should band (sic) trucks?

Anyone.

Anyone.

Bhuller? (sic)

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

Thanks for signing your work, again, troll! And thanks for not being able to recognize satire if it were to bite you on the ass!

Lord. Work on your reading comprehension for God’s sake.

Heh.



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

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So H are you pretending to be a lawyer, a computer guy or a train driver today.

So, when someone asks for facts that demonstrate causation, they are pretending to be a lawyer?  Geezus!

What do you think a blog is?  An excuse to lie your ass off?  Sorry, but there are intelligent people in the world.  You wouldn’t know it because few of them run in your circle.

Pretending to be a computer guy:

It’s hilarious that you need to pretend I am not who I say I am.  That suggests that it really bothers you.  Ask me why I don’t give a crap what you do for a living.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 09:04 am

So, when someone asks for facts that demonstrate causation, they are pretending to be a lawyer?  Geezus!

No you pretended to be a lawyer and a computer guy in other threads.  I was just pointing out to the world wide audience what an idiot you are.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on June 9, 2008 at 09:07 am
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Here’s just one other example that the press is out to control what we think.

Phoof,

Explain how the comment above is supposed to be satire!!!

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 09:07 am

I retract that, it was another person that said they were a lawyer.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on June 9, 2008 at 09:08 am
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No you pretended to be a lawyer and a computer guy in other threads.  I was just pointing out to the world wide audience what an idiot you are.

I never pretended to be a lawyer, someone once said I sounded like one.  That was probably because I used correct terminology when dealing with facts, reason and logic.

As far as “pretending to be a computer guy”, I don’t even know what to say to you?  Are you asking me to prove my job responsibilities?

Tell you what.  Why don’t you go down to Las Vegas next week and meet me for the HP Tech Forum?

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 09:15 am

As I already posted, I was wrong about that, got confused with you and another poster.

Tell you what.  Why don’t you go down to Las Vegas next week and meet me for the HP Tech Forum?

Any excuse to go to Vegas.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on June 9, 2008 at 09:17 am
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Whistler,

I was responding before I saw your retraction.  Sorry.

Any excuse to go to vegas is right.  I hate HP and I really am not interested in the free training that is offered at the seminar, or it’s new product.  But, in Hawaii a few of the largest hospitals run their Epic application on the EVA (why I don’t know) so it’s important to stay abreast on the latest enhancements.  Also, some of the major utility companies moved from the IBM mainframe to HP-UX.

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Explain how the comment above is supposed to be satire

The title, jackass. No one is seriously suggesting that any legislation (not legislature) is being introduced to ban (not band) trucks. Rob is suggesting satirically, that it makes as much sense to ban trucks as it does to ban knives or firearms. It is the intent of the user that defines its lethality.

Oh, and BTW, it’s ”Bueller”, not “Bhuller”. If you want to mock your enemies, it helps to be smarter than a gnat! Next time, spend 30 seconds or so and Google what you don’t know, so you don’t look so damned ignorant! (But, funny! You did look funny!)



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Proof on June 9, 2008 at 09:52 am

I was responding before I saw your retraction.  Sorry.

It was my mistake and you shouldn’t be apologizing.  Sorry.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on June 9, 2008 at 09:56 am

I never pretended to be a lawyer, someone once said I sounded like one.  That was probably because I used correct terminology when dealing with facts, reason and logic.

What a truly world class, weapons-grade, example of self-congratulatory make believe!  And that is as nicely understated as I can manage in between the guffaws.

The truth is a bit more prosaic… and vituperative.

Last evening I went through the past week’s posts, both those on the front page and in the Readers’ Blogs as well.

On those posts on which you chose to comment, nearly 90% of your first comments included some sort of snide or disparaging remark or personal insult directed at another poster or commenter who had neither mentioned nor addressed you in any way first.

Something to think about the next time you feel tempted to gratuitously lecture the rest of us about facts, reason, or logic.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on June 9, 2008 at 09:58 am
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Rob is suggesting satirically, that it makes as much sense to ban trucks as it does to ban knives or firearms.

You mean Whistler, not Rob.  If you want to mock your enemies, it helps to be smarter than a gnat! Next time, spend 30 seconds or so and look who wrote the post, so you don’t look so damned ignorant! (But, funny! You did look funny!)

And you ignored my question.  How does the post about the killings supposed to be controlling what we think?

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 10:02 am

OK, if it were a shooting spree the agenda would have been to blast this out on the news as much as possible to further the gun ban movement.

Since it was a truck (and knife) they didn’t do that.  So using satire I said we should ban trucks to make fun of those in the press who do have an agenda.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on June 9, 2008 at 10:06 am
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It was my mistake and you shouldn’t be apologizing.  Sorry.

Well, I should be for my tone.  My tone has been a bit harsh.  My apologies.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 10:07 am
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Maybe it’s just an article about a truly horrifying event?

It just seems you guys use every possible opportunity to attack liberals.  It gets old and sort of insulting.

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You mean Whistler, not Rob.

Sorry! Your derangement with Rob is so great, I didn’t think you bothered pissing in the wind against us mere mortals!
Sorry, Whistler!

BTW, troll: I’ll match my one small mistake against the plethora of mind-numbingly stupid things you say any day!
For example:

Can somebody point me to the legislature (sic) that is being introduced that suggests they should band (sic) trucks?

Anyone.

Anyone.

Bhuller? (sic)

What a bunch of fucking idiots.



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Proof on June 9, 2008 at 10:13 am

It just seems you guys use every possible opportunity to attack liberals.

I look at it that I was pointing out that mass murderers are able to find other ways to commit their crimes.  On the other hand some nutjob starts a stabbing spree in the US that someone has a concealed weapon.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on June 9, 2008 at 10:16 am
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BTW, troll: I’ll match my one small mistake against the plethora of mind-numbingly stupid things you say any day!

You are such a bore Phoof. 

One, calling me “troll” is a completely childish attempt to contain me.  In the same way you are irritated with my arguments, I am bothered with Robs and all of the others, that make terrible arguments that are meant to be partisan attacks.

Two, misspelling a word does not make the statement stupid.  Using words like “duh” and “troll”, are stupid things to say.

Three, your constant attempts at spell checking are not only boring, childish and meaningless, but you make your self look like a complete idiot. 

But by all means, carry on.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 10:27 am

Can somebody point me to the legislature that is being introduced that suggests they should band trucks?
Anyone.
Anyone.
Bhuller?
What a bunch of fucking idiots.
Why is this article not being taken as a way to suggest people need more in their lives, such as the word of God????

I....I....I....wow.

Fucking amazing. I’ve given up on Hannitized. He’s just dumb. And as the old saying goes: “You can’t fix stupid.” I give up on him. Ignore time!


Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

Kenny on June 9, 2008 at 11:53 am
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Spare me Kenny.  Save yourself the embarrassment.

You are a little late to the party anyway.  The issue is pretty much dead.  There is nothing in that article that suggests they are trying to control what we think.

You may think you have proved something, but the point of the post was lost when it fell off its own tracks.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 12:27 pm

"There is nothing in that article that suggests they are trying to control what we think.” And that was not the point, meth head.

“It just seems you guys use every possible opportunity to attack liberals.  It gets old and sort of insulting.” Smashing you in the mouth at every opportunity is fun, attacking leftards is fun. And you make it so easy.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on June 9, 2008 at 01:18 pm

You are a little late to the party anyway.  The issue is pretty much dead.  There is nothing in that article that suggests they are trying to control what we think.

You may think you have proved something, but the point of the post was lost when it fell off its own tracks.

I can’t believe you’re dumb enough to honestly think he’s saying anyone is trying to ban trucks.

And that you don’t get the media thing either.

You’re just a leftist idiot. And a prick.


Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

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attempt to contain me

Contain? No. Flush? Maybe! Heh.
You may be right, though! Trying to correct the plethora of spelling, grammatical and logical errors that are Hannitized may be boring to people who have passed the third grade. Still, I was loathe to leave you to your own devices.



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

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I can’t believe you’re dumb enough to honestly think he’s saying anyone is trying to ban trucks.

I don’t think that.  I KNOW he said that the story is an example of how the media is trying to control how we think.

I can’t believe you are dumb enough to think the media is trying to control how we think about trucks!  Or, do you disagree with Whistlers comment?

And that you don’t get the media thing either.

You’re just a leftist idiot. And a prick.

It’s not that I don’t “get it”, its that I reject the premise.

If I am an idiot, then you are a brain-dead infant and a cock-sucker.

Hannitized on June 10, 2008 at 10:44 am
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Phoof,

Still, I was loathe to leave you to your own devices.

Do you see what happens when you try to sound intelligent and smarter than people?  The truth comes out. 

That statement speaks for itself.

Hannitized on June 10, 2008 at 10:47 am

Meth head still can’t figure it out. The only point it has is the broken ink pen it uses to scrape its pipe out.


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