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Saturday, January 12, 2008

WCHA Officiating

The one sport I follow anymore is college hockey.  I watch the NHL just to see former UND (and other college players) playing. 

The weakest link by far in the sport is officiating.  Normally I could go on and on about Fighting Sioux games, but this time it happened to be the Wisconsin BADgers that got screwed.

Watch this video of the last seconds of last nights game.  You’ll see the players are clearly reacting when there is still time on the clock.  Also the red light comes on behind the net which can’t happen while there is time on the game clock.  Finally when time runs out there is a horn.  Since the officials are signaling goal it would seem to me that the horn had not gone off.

The goal was overturned on video review by the on-ice official.  To me this is absolutely bizarre.  I hold no love for the BADgers but this is ridiculous.  The WCHA has no credibility. 

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More than that, there is no consistency across the major conferences.  CCHA refs call penalties all over the place. Watch what happens when a WCHA team plays a CCHA team with CCHA refs.  They’re in the box all the time.

ec99 on January 12, 2008 at 04:58 pm

Sorry Mr. Whistler, I have to disagree with you on this one.

Officials do not determine the outcome of the game, the players do.

To blame a loss on officials by coaches and players is baseless and there is no place for it in the world of sports.

If Wisconsin would have played the whole game the way they did for the last 22 minutes or so, they wouldn’t have been in the position they were at the end.

Creasy on January 12, 2008 at 05:29 pm

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Proof on January 12, 2008 at 07:20 pm

Creasy with all due respect Denver is an excellent team and Wisconsin isn’t so much this year.  Playing 60 minutes of the game on the road put them in a position to tie the game up. 

It was stolen from them by incompetent officials.

When the competition is tight good officiating is crucial.


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The Whistler on January 12, 2008 at 10:43 pm

As a coach myself, my teams have won and lost their share of close games.

Not once have I felt that officials cost or won us the game by missing or making a call.

The outcome of games can seem to hinge on one thing or another, but the truth is players determine the outcome.

Who wins or loses the game is a culmination of things that happen throughout the game, not a last second judgement by an official.

It may seem like it, but it really isn’t the case.

Creasy on January 12, 2008 at 11:01 pm

Creasy I think your missing the point the Badgers score the game tieing goal but due to the incompetence of the refs that game ended up a loss for the Badgers by no fault to themselves.

Who wins or loses the game is a culmination of things that happen throughout the game, not a last second judgement by an official.

That is false in this case.

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goon on January 13, 2008 at 06:55 am

Creasy I think your missing the point the Badgers score the game tieing goal but due to the incompetence of the refs that game ended up a loss for the Badgers by no fault to themselves.

In this case, we don’t know what replay the official was looking at. 

We have a video from YouTube posted by Whistler, not the replay of the goal that the official used to base his call on.

I think you are missing my point of a lot of little things that teams do during the game that gives us the end result of who wins. 

Blaming an official for a loss is a weak and lame excuse.

Creasy on January 13, 2008 at 01:52 pm

In this case the league has apparently admitted they screwed up.

So the score on the ice was tied but due to incompetence the game doesn’t go down that way.

Your way of thinking might be ok for low level amateur sports, but here we’re talking big time athletics.  Blaming the kids for a loss when the highly paid officials screw up is just plain wrong.


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The Whistler on January 13, 2008 at 02:28 pm

Your way of thinking might be ok for low level amateur sports, but here we’re talking big time athletics.  Blaming the kids for a loss when the highly paid officials screw up is just plain wrong.

Last time I checked, college athletes were also amateurs as well.  It doesn’t matter if this happens in the NHL or a high school game. Players determine the outcome.

The officials don’t score goals or make saves for the teams, the players do. 

Like I said earlier, if Wisconsin would have played the entire game the way they played the last 22 minutes, there would be no need for the officials to review a play that happened in the last few seconds. 

I never blamed the players for losing the game, but they should take responsibility for letting it get to that point, having to make a play to tie the game with seconds on the clock. 

Keep in mind that officials are human, they make mistakes.  This is part of sports and any fan that expects the officals to be correct on every call they make is impossible.

Officials do not determine the outcome, players do.

Creasy on January 13, 2008 at 03:25 pm

Last time I checked, college athletes were also amateurs as well.

As I said this is the big time.  We certainly have a right to expect big time performance out of the officials who are well compensated.  If they fail we need to find someone who will do better. 

Players determine the outcome.

Not in this case.  The players tied up the game and the referee took it away.

The officials don’t score goals or make saves for the teams, the players do.

But they do take away points in this case.  In other cases they make it easier to score or not easier to score.

Like I said earlier, if Wisconsin would have played the entire game the way they played the last 22 minutes, there would be no need for the officials to review a play that happened in the last few seconds.

And if an asteroid had crashed into Magness arena nobody would care.  So what that didn’t happen.  What did happen is the well paid official handed the game unfairly to one team that didn’t deserve it.


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The Whistler on January 13, 2008 at 05:09 pm

What did happen is the well paid official handed the game unfairly to one team that didn’t deserve it.

When this whole controversy started, Denver was up by one goal.

If the goal was allowed by the officials, it would have sent the game into overtime where each team had a chance to win it.

To say that Denver didn’t deserve to win is really grasping at straws and not giving them credit for anything they did during the game.

Like I said, officials make mistakes but they cannot be blamed for having to make a difficult call.  We didn’t see the replay the officials did, their evidence might have shown something different then some clip from YouTube.

Creasy on January 13, 2008 at 06:45 pm

We didn’t see the replay the officials did, their evidence might have shown something different then some clip from YouTube.

A) I made the case that it must have been in error.

B) I said that the league had admitted to their error.

Here’s an official link that they admitted they were in error. 

To say that Denver didn’t deserve to win is really grasping at straws and not giving them credit for anything they did during the game.

To win you have to score MORE goals than the other team.  They didn’t.


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The Whistler on January 13, 2008 at 06:50 pm

officials make mistakes but they cannot be blamed for having to make a difficult call.

This was on replay where he could watch it over and over again.  Furthermore anyone familiar with the game would realize that IT must have been a goal.

You can’t blame an official for what he doesn’t see, but you can blame him for what he gets to see in slow motion over and over again.


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The Whistler on January 13, 2008 at 07:00 pm
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